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jimmy G M · 03-10-2018 10:17PM

Muckit wrote: »

God he had great weight on them for age. Theyll carry a lot more weight and come into big money off grass next summer.

Yeah they weighed well. Prob the best of the bunch. More to go over the next 2 weeks.

They will cost a bit to keep for another 12 months and finish. A fair bit of cash tied up also and with uncertainty over Brexit best to let them off. We don't generally finish any animals..

Reggie. · 04-10-2018 02:57PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I give 1.50/kg fresh weight if they make more sell them

Not too far off the ball bass. They avg €1.67 per kg

mayota · 04-10-2018 04:14PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Not too far off the ball bass. They avg €1.67 per kg

How did the angus weigh?

Bass Reeves · 04-10-2018 05:05PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Not too far off the ball bass. They avg €1.67 per kg

Not too good a day so 450kgs making 750. 30kg difference between fresh and mart weigh, take out 10 euro for mart fees and 10 euro transport that leaves 6kgs or 9 euro between us.:D

mayota wrote: »

How did the angus weigh?

300 with there weigh in old money

Fine Day · 04-10-2018 05:08PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Not too good a day so 450kgs making 750. 30kg difference between fresh and mart weigh, take out 10 euro for mart fees and 10 euro transport that leaves 6kgs or 9 euro between us.:D

300 with there weigh in old money

Poor price. I hope they are not costing you money at that.

Reggie. · 04-10-2018 06:06PM

mayota wrote: »

How did the angus weigh?

As below

Reggie. · 04-10-2018 06:09PM

Theheff wrote: »

Poor price. I hope they are not costing you money at that.

Lost no money thankfully.

Avg €815 per animal which is above my €800 target.

Profit on them all. Them prices were better than most believe it or not.

Shocking hard trade.

No interest in Heifers. All short stay bullocks were what the lads were after.

Bass Reeves · 04-10-2018 06:32PM

Reggie. wrote: »

As below

Reggie. wrote: »

Lost no money thankfully.

Avg €815 per animal which is above my €800 target.

Profit on them all. Them prices were better than most believe it or not.

Shocking hard trade.

No interest in Heifers. All short stay bullocks were what the lads were after.

I have liked to get the three 481 kg bullocks at 740 the next man if he intends to overwinter them will make a right twist. Killing 340kgs next June they would make a tad over 1400 euro.

Reggie. · 04-10-2018 06:53PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I have liked to get the three 481 kg bullocks at 740 the next man if he intends to overwinter them will make a right twist. Killing 340kgs next June they would make a tad over 1400 euro.

A there was one bad one in that bunch that brought the other two down. A necessary evil as I'd say I'd have gotten feck all if he was on his own

Hard Knocks · 04-10-2018 07:02PM

Would many of you sell more than 1 animal in a lot?

Limestone Cowboy · 04-10-2018 07:35PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Would many of you sell more than 1 animal in a lot?

Always pair them up if possible. Have put up to 6 together if they were the same weight/type.

Fine Day · 04-10-2018 07:42PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I have liked to get the three 481 kg bullocks at 740 the next man if he intends to overwinter them will make a right twist. Killing 340kgs next June they would make a tad over 1400 euro.

I hope your right with your prices for next June. I am bracing myself for a poor market. Fingers crossed.

Bass Reeves · 04-10-2018 08:23PM

Theheff wrote: »

I hope your right with your prices for next June. I am bracing myself for a poor market. Fingers crossed.

In a way next year price is immaterial, if you sold them type of cattle last June you be at that price and replacing now at that price would leave you a margin

Willfarman · 04-10-2018 08:24PM

I’d be valuing average dairy cross angus cattle at closer to 1200 next mid summer.

charolais0153 · 04-10-2018 08:27PM

Willfarman wrote: »

I’d be valuing average dairy cross angus cattle at closer to 1200 next mid summer.

50 crnts a kilo less?

Willfarman · 04-10-2018 08:36PM

Hard to get them into weight too. 330kgs at 3.80 1250.

Bass Reeves · 04-10-2018 08:48PM

Willfarman wrote: »

I’d be valuing average dairy cross angus cattle at closer to 1200 next mid summer.

This cattle of Reggie were 480 they are at the top end of store weight for them type of cattle. 480 kgs Mart weight now or at least 500 fresh weight. 15-20kgs on grass before housing , 50-60 during housing leaves them out of the shed early next March in the 560-580 kg bracket fresh weight.. 110kg on grass to mid June. I expect to kill them at 340 kgs minimum . Base of 4.05 grading O= 12c QA and 10c AA bonus leaves a price of 4.09@340 dw =1390euro.

Then again I try to buy them Kerry store cattle.

Icelandicseige · 04-10-2018 08:58PM

Is there many people finishing Fr bulls at 16-18 months or is waste of time? What weight is possible to get them to?

Count Mondego · 04-10-2018 09:13PM

Some mental weanling prices in Gort tonight. 330-350kg bulls going for up around 930-950. Doesn't add up looking at some of the last 20 posts on this thread.

Muckit · 04-10-2018 09:32PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

This cattle of Reggie were 480 they are at the top end of store weight .....

You can forget the QA and the AA bonus for a start. And as will says they never will get into big weight. Paying pauper price and expecting to cash in big.... love your optimism!

Bass Reeves · 04-10-2018 09:35PM

Icelandicseige wrote: »

Is there many people finishing Fr bulls at 16-18 months or is waste of time? What weight is possible to get them to?

No point in finishing Fr bulls at 16-18 months you are in the July-August period. Too long a winter and they go stale. Some lads killthem at 20/21 months October to December and more let them to 23 months post Christmas. I used to do them kill them pre/post Christmas. I used to buy as weanlings, graze all summer(very hard on land)3kgs ration August/September and house October 1st. Feed 8kgs of ration and silage and slaughter as they would come fit. They used to be handy weanlings 230/260kgs in October/November. They would kill 350ishkgs and at the time the base was always at or around 4/kg. Now the base is too variable and trying to avoid nitrates is a battle as well.

Limestone Cowboy · 04-10-2018 11:31PM

Count Mondego wrote: »

Some mental weanling prices in Gort tonight. 330-350kg bulls going for up around 930-950. Doesn't add up looking at some of the last 20 posts on this thread.

Heard from a few it was very dear at the show sale too. Were they chx?

Mooooo · 05-10-2018 05:57AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

No point in finishing Fr bulls at 16-18 months you are in the July-August period. Too long a winter and they go stale. Some lads killthem at 20/21 months October to December and more let them to 23 months post Christmas. I used to do them kill them pre/post Christmas. I used to buy as weanlings, graze all summer(very hard on land)3kgs ration August/September and house October 1st. Feed 8kgs of ration and silage and slaughter as they would come fit. They used to be handy weanlings 230/260kgs in October/November. They would kill 350ishkgs and at the time the base was always at or around 4/kg. Now the base is too variable and trying to avoid nitrates is a battle as well.

Autumn born fr prob a better option for that system if they can be got. Make better use of grass the first year

Bass Reeves · 05-10-2018 06:16AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Autumn born fr prob a better option for that system if they can be got. Make better use of grass the first year

Ya but you would be killing them at or pre June at 20 months

patsy_mccabe · 05-10-2018 03:25PM

Count Mondego wrote: »

Some mental weanling prices in Gort tonight. 330-350kg bulls going for up around 930-950. Doesn't add up looking at some of the last 20 posts on this thread.

Those special weanling sales always mad dear. Would it be exporters putting quick loads together of the fancy lots?

Limestone Cowboy · 05-10-2018 03:37PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Those special weanling sales always mad dear. Would it be exporters putting quick loads together of the fancy lots?

From what I see locally it's farmers that normally drive it on. The man from dans the best buyer of all if you had a calf good enough for him.

Mac Taylor · 05-10-2018 06:00PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Those special weanling sales always mad dear. Would it be exporters putting quick loads together of the fancy lots?

The bulls are holding their own, but the heifers were very poor, to be throughtful you would want to be getting that for them.

Reggie. · 05-10-2018 06:35PM

Mac Taylor wrote: »

The bulls are holding their own, but the heifers were very poor, to be throughtful you would want to be getting that for them.

Same yesterday. Why are the heifers such a bad trade I wonder?

Mac Taylor · 05-10-2018 07:25PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Same yesterday. Why are the heifers such a bad trade I wonder?

Don’t know hopefully someone here will be able to explain. You got good prices for what in fairness ware could cattle, but you would not get the color of it in Gort if you had them there. Only ch and good lm’s followed by exceptional sims sell well.

A neighbor of mine has aax cows crossed with lm bull and he struggles every year to sell what are very good weanlings. He needs to finish them but is not set up for that game.

Count Mondego · 05-10-2018 11:00PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Heard from a few it was very dear at the show sale too. Were they chx?

No, one was a black Limousin would you believe and the other a red one.

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