FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTICE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

Gunslinger92 · 04-10-2018 03:13PM

What on earth were questions 1 and 6 about?

the baby bull elephant · 04-10-2018 03:20PM

FE1 Lady wrote: »

Christ that Constitutional was painful. What was question one?

I thought it was Freedom of Expression but given how my exam went I wouldn’t count on that.

lawless11 · 04-10-2018 03:24PM

A very long shot, but who knows - if anyone is driving tomorrow from South Dublin (exit 13 M50/Dundrum wise) and wouldn't mind taking a poor soul with them, PM me please. I'd be eternally grateful.

yournerd · 04-10-2018 03:26PM

lawless11 wrote: »

A very long shot, but who knows - if anyone is driving tomorrow from South Dublin (exit 13 M50/Dundrum wise) and wouldn't mind taking a poor soul with them, PM me please. I'd be eternally grateful.

I’ll be getting a taxi after the exam if anyone is interested

holliek · 04-10-2018 03:28PM

For acceptance, I'm just learning facts and communication. I'm ignoring ambiguous and illusory terms, should that be ok?

TCPIP · 04-10-2018 03:30PM

the baby bull elephant wrote: »

I thought it was Freedom of Expression but given how my exam went I wouldn’t count on that.

It was. But it was ****ing awful. That curve ball about it not being her expression... In my answer I was just like 'Throw the dude under the bus and give up the IP' And I just realised now I never pointed out it was considered seditious speech. Well, March it is.

FE1s2018 · 04-10-2018 03:36PM

Does anyone else think the essay questions in contract are far too narrow to have a solid answer on? Penalty clauses, remoteness of damages, breach of contract, I have about 5/6 cases on each and don't even know their facts, just the principle . What length would an answer need to be at a minimum?

Blazedup · 04-10-2018 03:39PM

Gunslinger92 wrote: »

What on earth were questions 1 and 6 about?

Was 1. Strict liability and 38.1?
Vague legislation?
AG V King

iamanengine · 04-10-2018 03:41PM

FE1s2018 wrote: »

Does anyone else think the essay questions in contract are far too narrow to have a solid answer on? Penalty clauses, remoteness of damages, breach of contract, I have about 5/6 cases on each and don't even know their facts, just the principle . What length would an answer need to be at a minimum?

From what I've seen remoteness would likely to be a part of a question so something like answer A and B. A might be remoteness and B could be penalty clauses, so having 5 cases for each would probably be fine.

the baby bull elephant · 04-10-2018 03:48PM

TCPIP wrote: »

It was. But it was ****ing awful. That curve ball about it not being her expression... In my answer I was just like 'Throw the dude under the bus and give up the IP' And I just realised now I never pointed out it was considered seditious speech. Well, March it is.

Yeah I had to go to the well of half remembered ECHR cases from studying media law about hosts to get something in that respect and otherwise basically just did a proportionality test which probably shouldn’t have been as long.

Craobh Rua Lua · 04-10-2018 04:02PM

TCPIP wrote: »

It was. But it was ****ing awful. That curve ball about it not being her expression... In my answer I was just like 'Throw the dude under the bus and give up the IP' And I just realised now I never pointed out it was considered seditious speech. Well, March it is.

I missed that too. I threw in right to livelihood and vague criminal offences because I hadn’t a clueðŸ˜±ðŸ˜±ðŸ˜±
He can’t fail us all though

yournerd · 04-10-2018 04:09PM

Does anyone have sample answers that aren’t Griffith? Thinks the examiner is tired of repetitive answers...

Natalie_06 · 04-10-2018 04:16PM

its kinda ****ed up that there are like 30 chapters in constitutional and we only get the choice of 8.... and he tries to trick us even with those questions...the ****

FE1 Lady · 04-10-2018 04:18PM

Craobh Rua Lua wrote: »

I missed that too. I threw in right to livelihood and vague criminal offences because I hadn’t a clueðŸ˜±ðŸ˜±ðŸ˜±
He can’t fail us all though

I wrote about right to earn a livelihood also.

Craobh Rua Lua · 04-10-2018 04:22PM

FE1s2018 wrote: »

Does anyone else think the essay questions in contract are far too narrow to have a solid answer on? Penalty clauses, remoteness of damages, breach of contract, I have about 5/6 cases on each and don't even know their facts, just the principle . What length would an answer need to be at a minimum?

You’re be surprised at how much you would get out of them once you start writing. Your introduction will be half a page, each case a paragraph which is a quarter to half a page, and then your conclusion which is half a page. Make points relevant to the question asked in each paragraph, even if only vaguely on point. If not on point, say that in as something like: “although the court did not address the point directly, the reasoning adopted suggests that XXX”

Craobh Rua Lua · 04-10-2018 04:24PM

Craobh Rua Lua wrote: »

You’re be surprised at how much you would get out of them once you start writing. Your introduction will be half a page, each case a paragraph which is a quarter to half a page, and then your conclusion which is half a page. Make points relevant to the question asked in each paragraph, even if only vaguely on point. If not on point, say that in as something like: “although the court did not address the point directly, the reasoning adopted suggests that XXX”

Clarke and Treitel are very handy to refer to. If you could have a couple of points from them on the most importance stuff you’ll fly it

Gomzu · 04-10-2018 04:25PM

It seems like I might have been the one person who thought constitutional wasn’t the worst?? ðŸ˜¬ I did get very lucky with that case note Q though, was able to avoid the problem Qs. Seemed like a mad exam though, no AG, president, referendum, and 2 on family?? Mad

leavingcert17 · 04-10-2018 04:36PM

Any tips for identifying questions tomorrow in contract? And what would likely come up with consumer protection?

Gunslinger92 · 04-10-2018 04:39PM

Gomzu wrote: »

It seems like I might have been the one person who thought constitutional wasn’t the worst?? ðŸ˜¬ I did get very lucky with that case note Q though, was able to avoid the problem Qs. Seemed like a mad exam though, no AG, president, referendum, and 2 on family?? Mad

I was alright too, got 5 questions answered anyway. Got very lucky that I knew the family law topic

leavingcert17 · 04-10-2018 04:42PM

I’m not learning that either

holliek wrote: »

For acceptance, I'm just learning facts and communication. I'm ignoring ambiguous and illusory terms, should that be ok?

FE1 Lady · 04-10-2018 05:14PM

Gunslinger92 wrote: »

I was alright too, got 5 questions answered anyway. Got very lucky that I knew the family law topic

Did you base your question on William and Anne on rights of the unmarried father?

fe1exams2018 · 04-10-2018 05:15PM

I passed constitutional last sitting with 2 proper answers then waffle about standing and any case I could remember for two. The last question I wrote 4 lines, wasn’t even gonna sit the exam. Got a bare 50 so anything is possible.

Does anyone have any predictions/lists for contract essays they think should be covered?

lawless11 · 04-10-2018 05:31PM

Anyone could enlighten me on half-truth cases for contract law / misrepresentation?

Had nothing on it in the manual, seen it mentioned in a report but no elaboration on facts and how they were decided etc & I'm v short on time. Thanks.

iamanengine · 04-10-2018 05:43PM

So far have learnt off O+A, Consideration, Estoppel, Consumer Protection, Damages and Terms...duno how I'm guna learn Misrep, Mistake, Breach and Illegal Contracts before tomorrow...whoops!

sapphire309 · 04-10-2018 05:47PM

What came up in constitutional today?

bigtophat13 · 04-10-2018 05:51PM

iamanengine wrote: »

So far have learnt off O+A, Consideration, Estoppel, Consumer Protection, Damages and Terms...duno how I'm guna learn Misrep, Mistake, Breach and Illegal Contracts before tomorrow...whoops!

I'm in a similar boat, when you say learn off how many cases do you mean per topic because I just can't make mine stick

iamanengine · 04-10-2018 05:59PM

bigtophat13 wrote: »

I'm in a similar boat, when you say learn off how many cases do you mean per topic because I just can't make mine stick

It depends on the topic I guess. I have 35 for O+A, 20 for consideration, 30 for damages, who knows how many of those I will actually remember.

The problem is depending on what kind of question is asked only 5 or 6 cases might actually be relevant.

LawStudent2018 · 04-10-2018 06:00PM

sapphire309 wrote: »

What came up in constitutional today?

Q1: absolutely no clue
Q2: Gilchrist & Rogers
Q3: Natural Law
Q4: Re Haughey; Maguire vs Ardagh; 're Article 26 and the Employment Equality Bill; can't remember last case.
Q5: Family Rights
Q6: No clue
Q7: Article 42A
Q8: Equality

Jaspoon12 · 04-10-2018 06:01PM

iamanengine wrote: »

It depends on the topic I guess. I have 35 for O+A, 20 for consideration, 30 for damages, who knows how many of those I will actually remember.

The problem is depending on what kind of question is asked only 5 or 6 cases might actually be relevant.

That is an insane amount of cases!

iamanengine · 04-10-2018 06:08PM

Jaspoon12 wrote: »

That is an insane amount of cases!

Well take Damages for example, you could be asked about remoteness of damage so I have 6 cases, types of loss I have 10 cases a few different kinds of loss so I have one case for each. Then you have damages for inconvenience or emotional stress 6 cases and finally penalty clauses 6 cases...so it all adds up unfortunately.

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