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Gunslinger92

What on earth were questions 1 and 6 about?

the baby bull elephant

FE1 Lady wrote: »

Christ that Constitutional was painful. What was question one?

I thought it was Freedom of Expression but given how my exam went I wouldn’t count on that.

lawless11

A very long shot, but who knows - if anyone is driving tomorrow from South Dublin (exit 13 M50/Dundrum wise) and wouldn't mind taking a poor soul with them, PM me please. I'd be eternally grateful.

yournerd

lawless11 wrote: »

A very long shot, but who knows - if anyone is driving tomorrow from South Dublin (exit 13 M50/Dundrum wise) and wouldn't mind taking a poor soul with them, PM me please. I'd be eternally grateful.

I’ll be getting a taxi after the exam if anyone is interested

holliek

For acceptance, I'm just learning facts and communication. I'm ignoring ambiguous and illusory terms, should that be ok?

TCPIP

the baby bull elephant wrote: »

I thought it was Freedom of Expression but given how my exam went I wouldn’t count on that.

It was. But it was ****ing awful. That curve ball about it not being her expression... In my answer I was just like 'Throw the dude under the bus and give up the IP' And I just realised now I never pointed out it was considered seditious speech. Well, March it is.

FE1s2018

Does anyone else think the essay questions in contract are far too narrow to have a solid answer on? Penalty clauses, remoteness of damages, breach of contract, I have about 5/6 cases on each and don't even know their facts, just the principle . What length would an answer need to be at a minimum?

Blazedup

Gunslinger92 wrote: »

What on earth were questions 1 and 6 about?

Was 1. Strict liability and 38.1?
Vague legislation?
AG V King

iamanengine

FE1s2018 wrote: »

Does anyone else think the essay questions in contract are far too narrow to have a solid answer on? Penalty clauses, remoteness of damages, breach of contract, I have about 5/6 cases on each and don't even know their facts, just the principle . What length would an answer need to be at a minimum?

From what I've seen remoteness would likely to be a part of a question so something like answer A and B. A might be remoteness and B could be penalty clauses, so having 5 cases for each would probably be fine.

the baby bull elephant

TCPIP wrote: »

It was. But it was ****ing awful. That curve ball about it not being her expression... In my answer I was just like 'Throw the dude under the bus and give up the IP' And I just realised now I never pointed out it was considered seditious speech. Well, March it is.

Yeah I had to go to the well of half remembered ECHR cases from studying media law about hosts to get something in that respect and otherwise basically just did a proportionality test which probably shouldn’t have been as long.

Craobh Rua Lua

TCPIP wrote: »

It was. But it was ****ing awful. That curve ball about it not being her expression... In my answer I was just like 'Throw the dude under the bus and give up the IP' And I just realised now I never pointed out it was considered seditious speech. Well, March it is.

I missed that too. I threw in right to livelihood and vague criminal offences because I hadn’t a clue😱😱😱
He can’t fail us all though

yournerd

Does anyone have sample answers that aren’t Griffith? Thinks the examiner is tired of repetitive answers...

Natalie_06

its kinda ****ed up that there are like 30 chapters in constitutional and we only get the choice of 8.... and he tries to trick us even with those questions...the ****

FE1 Lady

Craobh Rua Lua wrote: »

I missed that too. I threw in right to livelihood and vague criminal offences because I hadn’t a clue😱😱😱
He can’t fail us all though

I wrote about right to earn a livelihood also.

Craobh Rua Lua

FE1s2018 wrote: »

Does anyone else think the essay questions in contract are far too narrow to have a solid answer on? Penalty clauses, remoteness of damages, breach of contract, I have about 5/6 cases on each and don't even know their facts, just the principle . What length would an answer need to be at a minimum?

You’re be surprised at how much you would get out of them once you start writing. Your introduction will be half a page, each case a paragraph which is a quarter to half a page, and then your conclusion which is half a page. Make points relevant to the question asked in each paragraph, even if only vaguely on point. If not on point, say that in as something like: “although the court did not address the point directly, the reasoning adopted suggests that XXX”

Craobh Rua Lua

Craobh Rua Lua wrote: »

You’re be surprised at how much you would get out of them once you start writing. Your introduction will be half a page, each case a paragraph which is a quarter to half a page, and then your conclusion which is half a page. Make points relevant to the question asked in each paragraph, even if only vaguely on point. If not on point, say that in as something like: “although the court did not address the point directly, the reasoning adopted suggests that XXX”

Clarke and Treitel are very handy to refer to. If you could have a couple of points from them on the most importance stuff you’ll fly it

Gomzu

It seems like I might have been the one person who thought constitutional wasn’t the worst?? 😬 I did get very lucky with that case note Q though, was able to avoid the problem Qs. Seemed like a mad exam though, no AG, president, referendum, and 2 on family?? Mad

leavingcert17

Any tips for identifying questions tomorrow in contract? And what would likely come up with consumer protection?

Gunslinger92

Gomzu wrote: »

It seems like I might have been the one person who thought constitutional wasn’t the worst?? 😬 I did get very lucky with that case note Q though, was able to avoid the problem Qs. Seemed like a mad exam though, no AG, president, referendum, and 2 on family?? Mad

I was alright too, got 5 questions answered anyway. Got very lucky that I knew the family law topic

leavingcert17

I’m not learning that either

holliek wrote: »

For acceptance, I'm just learning facts and communication. I'm ignoring ambiguous and illusory terms, should that be ok?

FE1 Lady

Gunslinger92 wrote: »

I was alright too, got 5 questions answered anyway. Got very lucky that I knew the family law topic

Did you base your question on William and Anne on rights of the unmarried father?

fe1exams2018

I passed constitutional last sitting with 2 proper answers then waffle about standing and any case I could remember for two. The last question I wrote 4 lines, wasn’t even gonna sit the exam. Got a bare 50 so anything is possible.

Does anyone have any predictions/lists for contract essays they think should be covered?

lawless11

Anyone could enlighten me on half-truth cases for contract law / misrepresentation?

Had nothing on it in the manual, seen it mentioned in a report but no elaboration on facts and how they were decided etc & I'm v short on time. Thanks.

iamanengine

So far have learnt off O+A, Consideration, Estoppel, Consumer Protection, Damages and Terms...duno how I'm guna learn Misrep, Mistake, Breach and Illegal Contracts before tomorrow...whoops!

sapphire309

What came up in constitutional today?

bigtophat13

iamanengine wrote: »

So far have learnt off O+A, Consideration, Estoppel, Consumer Protection, Damages and Terms...duno how I'm guna learn Misrep, Mistake, Breach and Illegal Contracts before tomorrow...whoops!

I'm in a similar boat, when you say learn off how many cases do you mean per topic because I just can't make mine stick

iamanengine

bigtophat13 wrote: »

I'm in a similar boat, when you say learn off how many cases do you mean per topic because I just can't make mine stick

It depends on the topic I guess. I have 35 for O+A, 20 for consideration, 30 for damages, who knows how many of those I will actually remember.

The problem is depending on what kind of question is asked only 5 or 6 cases might actually be relevant.

LawStudent2018

sapphire309 wrote: »

What came up in constitutional today?

Q1: absolutely no clue
Q2: Gilchrist & Rogers
Q3: Natural Law
Q4: Re Haughey; Maguire vs Ardagh; 're Article 26 and the Employment Equality Bill; can't remember last case.
Q5: Family Rights
Q6: No clue
Q7: Article 42A
Q8: Equality

Jaspoon12

iamanengine wrote: »

It depends on the topic I guess. I have 35 for O+A, 20 for consideration, 30 for damages, who knows how many of those I will actually remember.

The problem is depending on what kind of question is asked only 5 or 6 cases might actually be relevant.

That is an insane amount of cases!

iamanengine

Jaspoon12 wrote: »

That is an insane amount of cases!

Well take Damages for example, you could be asked about remoteness of damage so I have 6 cases, types of loss I have 10 cases a few different kinds of loss so I have one case for each. Then you have damages for inconvenience or emotional stress 6 cases and finally penalty clauses 6 cases...so it all adds up unfortunately.