Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

Eamonnator · 04-10-2018 09:18AM

Rechuchote wrote: »

We don't know who's behind the wheel of any vehicle, or what state they're in -

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/bus-driver-was-nine-times-over-limit-and-slumped-over-wheel-37383423.html

In my time, I arrested two bus drivers for Drunk Driving, one a Bus Eireann driver with about twenty passengers aboard, the other, at about 9.00am, a school bus driver with four children on board.

silverharp · 04-10-2018 10:24AM

another Dublin taxi driver who will be made famous , absolute loon , crosses a main road to go after a cyclist

https://twitter.com/ArranBolger/status/1047744273339338752

Hurrache · 04-10-2018 10:27AM

Breaks a red light, through a junction, mounts a footpath, down the wrong way, and on and on.

There's no standards at all for Irish taxi drivers, some amount of assholes who think a yellow plate on their roof gives them the same powers of blues and twos.

Direct link here in full screen and HD
https://streamable.com/amp_player/2i9gy?__twitter_impression=true

Edit, and there's this also, some witness to an assault on a cyclist by another taxi driver.
https://twitter.com/IBIKEDublin/status/1047770464255442945

ganmo · 04-10-2018 10:36AM

he needs jail

Alanstrainor · 04-10-2018 10:40AM

Alanstrainor wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VrOM_4vNoU

The driver overtook more one car and decided to plough through behind the Nissan Note who was overtaking me (The Nissan was already dangerous given the approaching traffic on the right). Rather than pull in behind me the black golf carried on the overtake despite the oncoming traffic. They are obliged to yield to oncoming traffic when overtaking, to not do so would be anarchy.

My position was not even central to the lane, I was less than 1M from the kerb. Moving a few cm to the left does not make it safe for people to overtake in this circumstance.

I'll be calling traffic watch after lunch.

Sorry to drag this up again. Plenty of other madness on this thread since yesterday morning. I just reported this to traffic watch. They were really lovely on the phone, and completely professional. I'll see what happens in the coming weeks.

Hurrache · 04-10-2018 10:40AM

I see some of the news websites have picked this up and asking permission to use the video in articles.

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Sorry to drag this up again. Plenty of other madness on this thread since yesterday morning. I just reported this to traffic watch. They were really lovely on the phone, and completely professional. I'll see what happens in the coming weeks.

As others have mentioned around here before, any my own experience, you may hear nothing for a long time and think nothing will come of it, and get a phone call from a garda out of the blue one day.

Alanstrainor · 04-10-2018 10:58AM

Hurrache wrote: »

I see some of the news websites have picked this up and asking permission to use the video in articles.

As others have mentioned around here before, any my own experience, you may hear nothing for a long time and think nothing will come of it, and get a phone call from a garda out of the blue one day.

Yes. This isn't my first rodeo, I just thought it was worth mentioning that the people who man the traffic watch line are brilliant. My last experience with this, it was 2 weeks later that I got a call. Having this on video should jog the memory of the driver no matter what happens!

Mc Love · 04-10-2018 11:23AM

silverharp wrote: »

another Dublin taxi driver who will be made famous , absolute loon , crosses a main road to go after a cyclist

The cyclist should have stopped at the first set of lights.

Rechuchote · 04-10-2018 11:26AM

Mc Love wrote: »

The cyclist should have stopped at the first set of lights.

Both cyclist and driver should have. Are you under the impression that the driver is engaged in backseat modding, rather than leaving it to the Gardaí?

xckjoo · 04-10-2018 11:27AM

silverharp wrote: »

another Dublin taxi driver who will be made famous , absolute loon , crosses a main road to go after a cyclist

:eek: What the duck is wrong with people? You know he spent the day bitching to everyone about the cyclist too.

Rechuchote · 04-10-2018 11:29AM

I don't know if it's over-use of cars, but something has made Irish people (by which I mean, in this case, people living in Ireland) crazy with mind-others'-businessness and busybodyness and the inability to walk 10 feet if they can park beside whatever they desperately need, and… just general shrieky crazyness.

CramCycle · 04-10-2018 11:34AM

Eamonnator wrote: »

In my time, I arrested two bus drivers for Drunk Driving, one a Bus Eireann driver with about twenty passengers aboard, the other, at about 9.00am, a school bus driver with four children on board.

A bus driver from my local town driving for BE, used to stop at every stop and run into the pub, for what we thought were toilet breaks. Man probably had some issues so no one thought anything of it. Turns out he was so punctual they had a pint pulled and settled in every pub on the way. He got nine in on each drive. Not sure if he was arrested but he was reported and never seen again. Bus typically had 70 on a 52 seater as it was the Sunday night college run.

Mc Love wrote: »

The cyclist should have stopped at the first set of lights.

Without the prior though, it really is hard to tell, was he already legging it from the taxi driver? You are of course right but if I thought someone was trying to kill me, I might let my over zealous love of the rules fade away for a bit.

Steoller · 04-10-2018 11:35AM

Mc Love wrote: »

silverharp wrote: »

another Dublin taxi driver who will be made famous , absolute loon , crosses a main road to go after a cyclist

The cyclist should have stopped at the first set of lights.

I think the dashcam only captured the tail end of whatever was going on between the two of them. The taxi driver was not slow in following him through that red. That makes me think he had been having a go at him for a while.
Going by how the cyclist moved to the other side of the road, and then up onto the footpath at the end, to lose the taxi, I think running the red was an attempt at getting away from the taxi.

juanjo · 04-10-2018 11:36AM

Mc Love wrote: »

The cyclist should have stopped at the first set of lights.

It looks like he did it to get away from the taxi, like he crossed the road afterwards and went onto the footpath for the same reason.

BTW yesterday I caught a driver with headphones on, phone on the dashboard watching a movie. Very reassuring.

Annie get your Run · 04-10-2018 11:43AM

juanjo wrote: »

It looks like he did it to get away from the taxi, like he crossed the road afterwards and went onto the footpath for the same reason.

BTW yesterday I caught a driver with headphones on, phone on the dashboard watching a movie. Very reassuring.

There seems to be a bit more info on that here https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/9l4ixt/taxi_vs_cyclist_take_2/

The dash cam owner said he could hear beeping coming from behind before they both reached his car then the video takes over. Not sure I'd have been as calm as that cyclist was TBH, that's the most frightening thing I've seen in a long time*.

*well since RQ's post earlier!

silverharp · 04-10-2018 11:50AM

Mc Love wrote: »

The cyclist should have stopped at the first set of lights.

possibly trying to avoid him, if I had a loon behind me I'd keep going too

Ray Bloody Purchase · 04-10-2018 11:54AM

silverharp wrote: »

possibly trying to avoid him, if I had a loon behind me I'd keep going too

He was literally trying to kill him. There has to be more to it though. I wouldn't think the footage we saw was the start of it???

juanjo · 04-10-2018 11:57AM

Annie get your Run wrote: »

There seems to be a bit more info on that here https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/9l4ixt/taxi_vs_cyclist_take_2/

Thanks for the reddit link, found out there that there is an app called driver check to get the details from taxi, hackney and limo drivers. Good to know.

Zulu · 04-10-2018 12:08PM

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

He was literally trying to kill him. There has to be more to it though.

I've little doubt there was, and no doubt it warranted the taxi running a red light through the junction, driving down the wrong side of the road, and up onto the foot path to get the cyclistba$tard.

</sarcasm>

Duckjob · 04-10-2018 12:13PM

Zulu wrote: »

I've little doubt there was, and no doubt it warranted the taxi running a red light through the junction, driving down the wrong side of the road, and up onto the foot path to get the cyclistba$tard.

</sarcasm>

The cyclist probably had the neck to lightly slap the body of his 2 tonne metal box or something equally murder-worthy.

Mc Love · 04-10-2018 12:30PM

CramCycle wrote: »

Without the prior though, it really is hard to tell, was he already legging it from the taxi driver? You are of course right but if I thought someone was trying to kill me, I might let my over zealous love of the rules fade away for a bit.

That is true, but he would have been putting his life in danger crossing a junction with a red light, I would have probably dismounted and went on the pavement if someone was trying to kill me.

Rechuchote wrote: »

Both cyclist and driver should have. Are you under the impression that the driver is engaged in backseat modding, rather than leaving it to the Gardaí?

Yeah but I was expecting better of the taxi driver, I shall know in future

Steoller wrote: »

I think the dashcam only captured the tail end of whatever was going on between the two of them. The taxi driver was not slow in following him through that red. That makes me think he had been having a go at him for a while.
Going by how the cyclist moved to the other side of the road, and then up onto the footpath at the end, to lose the taxi, I think running the red was an attempt at getting away from the taxi.

But if someone looks at that, they'll throw the book at both of them, taxi driver for dangerous driving, and cyclist for driving without due care and attention, driving on the wrong side of the road, and then mounting a footpath. No-one comes away from this looking good tbh.

juanjo wrote: »

BTW yesterday I caught a driver with headphones on, phone on the dashboard watching a movie. Very reassuring.

Was behind a driver yesterday watching a TV show on their dash mounted phone.

VW 1 · 04-10-2018 12:48PM

If someone is trying to hit me with a car not a hope in hell am i dismounting and standing on the path risking an assault.

You're condemning of the cyclists actions is laughable tbh.

If someone came at you with a baseball bat would you wait for the pedestrian crossing to go green before running away?

Mc Love · 04-10-2018 12:58PM

VW 1 wrote: »

If someone is trying to hit me with a car not a hope in hell am i dismounting and standing on the path risking an assault.

You're condemning of the cyclists actions is laughable tbh.

If someone came at you with a baseball bat would you wait for the pedestrian crossing to go green before running away?

Fine dont stand there, but it doesnt look as if he was in a mad dash tbh.

my condemnation is based on the video evidence, the taxi driver doesnt have a leg to stand on either, especially mounting the footpath at the end.

If someone came at me with a baseball bat i'd run around the corner, not run blindly into the road.

amcalester · 04-10-2018 12:59PM

Mc Love wrote: »

Fine dont stand there, but it doesnt look as if he was in a mad dash tbh.

my condemnation is based on the video evidence, the taxi driver doesnt have a leg to stand on either, especially mounting the footpath at the end.

If someone came at me with a baseball bat i'd run around the corner, not run blindly into the road.

Was the cyclist blind?

Felexicon · 04-10-2018 01:01PM

Mc Love wrote: »

But if someone looks at that, they'll throw the book at both of them, taxi driver for dangerous driving, and cyclist for driving without due care and attention, driving on the wrong side of the road, and then mounting a footpath. No-one comes away from this looking good tbh.

So from watching that you picked one sanction for the taxi driver and 3 for the cyclist?

Jesus wept.

average_runner · 04-10-2018 01:06PM

Mc Love wrote: »

Fine dont stand there, but it doesnt look as if he was in a mad dash tbh.

my condemnation is based on the video evidence, the taxi driver doesnt have a leg to stand on either, especially mounting the footpath at the end.

If someone came at me with a baseball bat i'd run around the corner, not run blindly into the road.

Sometimes when your scared you do stupid things. As someone said we don't know what happened before the lights, but it does look like the taxi driver was on a mission to harm the cyclist.

Taxi driver should be off the road for this and more

Mc Love · 04-10-2018 01:29PM

Felexicon wrote: »

So from watching that you picked one sanction for the taxi driver and 3 for the cyclist?

Jesus wept.

Get off your high horse, this is the cycling forum is it not? I have pointed out that the taxi driver has committed numerous offences, yet you chose to ignore those posts.

I'm a new to commuting by bike, but I'm able to see all sides of the argument.

Did the driver act appropriately? No.
Did the cyclist act appropriately? No.
Do we know the whole backstory? No.

Hurrache · 04-10-2018 01:42PM

Mc Love wrote: »

Did the driver act appropriately? No.
Did the cyclist act appropriately? No.
Do we know the whole backstory? No.

When being chased by a ****ing headcase in the car, I find no issue at all with what the cyclist did.

You suggest dismounting and getting onto the footpath. Did you miss the bit in the video in which the taxi driver mounted the footpath and tried to chase after the cyclist?

Felexicon · 04-10-2018 01:48PM

Mc Love wrote: »

Get off your high horse, this is the cycling forum is it not? I have pointed out that the taxi driver has committed numerous offences, yet you chose to ignore those posts.

I'm a new to commuting by bike, but I'm able to see all sides of the argument.

Did the driver act appropriately? No.
Did the cyclist act appropriately? No. I have no idea as I have never had a car deliberately trying to knock me down. I assume I would adopt the "stay alive" mentality.
Do we know the whole backstory? No.

Are you using this as some kind of qualifying mark for why you're point should be taken more seriously?

silverharp · 04-10-2018 01:48PM

No way would I get off my bike, that's just an open invitation for someone to take a baseball bat to you, keep going and find a route he cant follow you. the cyclist was spot on

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