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EuroMillion - MainBalls - Selections

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Went with an overly simple approach tonight, utilising a minimum of x14 factors.

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    If you wanted to overly complicate things, would just go for 2 & 18 or 47 balls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Draw due in about 10mins someone in Euroland, have narrowed tonights down to x6 'hot' primaries and x4 'warm' secondaries.
    Previous draws are show, there was x3 in a row appearances for 48, and before that x3 in row from 15. these now considered cold balls.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Here's some lovely Friday EM balls.
    Some euromills are offering x13 instant mills as it's Friday the 13th.

    A simple 100/1 double hotpick tonight may well suit #2 & #18.

    ocyBdo8.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Haven't been doing this much of late, there has been mixed numbers (positive & negative) with high level of repeat numbers draw-on-draw which doesn't suit the system.
    Will modify system slightly to tailor for this.

    For tonights draw (forgot, and didn't ready in time to do) would have been keen on 2, 18, 47, 32, 35 for the 1m squid.
    Perhaps also 10, 31.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Right on queue here's tonights long awaited number 2.
    Number 40 was also a technical 'hot ball' but not listed above.

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    Will pencil in 47 for tuesday as the next super-primary hotball, now that 2 has gone.
    18 should be due up next week (tue/fri) also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Just remembered to get tonight's lucky balls in, just in time.
    Will include 18 & 47. Other due balls are indicated on chart below:
    Just a puny 5pts, distributed 1//2/3/4 & 5 (for the 1mill smackers).

    RWxQVya.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    3 neg and 2 fairly positive. Funny thing is those two are exactly the same as the last draw: 2 & 40
    (and also in the lowest 5 group of appearing over the last 200 draws).

    40qLm8V.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Missed entry for Friday (entry time closes at 19:25), just managed to todays 5pts in tonight.
    After a quick chart update, there is plenty of hot balls to choose from. 3 main +6 other hotties.

    CVC7rF2.png

    Hot zone is low-mid 30's, expect to see a couple from here.
    Super-primary choices are 18, 47 and 32.
    If there is going to be a cold ball duplicate it may be 22,
    which appeared on Friday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Ugly balls came out on Tues (highlighted below), hopefully better alignment with a 5pt re-run.
    Draw taking place round about now somewhere in Europa.

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    If you win the EM do not rip up the ticket/receipt as happened to the Scottish couple recently.
    Luckily the lotto people still accepted it with a lashing of sellotape.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Rubbish balls this Friday, that hot ball #47 will likely come out in several sequences whenever it arrives

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Unusual to see a sequential triple, forgot to do the Tuesday's lotto anyhow.
    Hot ball 16 can be removed as now has 14 appearances over 2yrs.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Often done as the line 1 single selection (but missed completely this week) is hot ball #18, last night.
    Plenty of other cool balls also, 20 + 44 now have excessive performance peaks.

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    Will have to get the numerios on earlier to avoid missing the 7.30pm cut offs.

    The chart for Tue says it's is keen for hot balls 5, 10, [32+33^], 40, 47^ (very hot, possible seq' double).
    Could also see a straight repeat on that 18, also 16 or 1/2 could well appear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr



    The chart for Tue says it's is keen for hot balls 5, 10, [32+33^], 40, 47^ (very hot, possible seq' double).
    Could also see a straight repeat on that 18, also 16 or 1/2 could well appear.

    01 15 18 25 31

    31 was a hot ball, well over 70 days since seen last, 15 and 25 not so hot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    ...Could also see a straight repeat on that 18, also 16 or 1/2 could well appear.

    A double repeat on a repeater last night, maybe there is some value in having a couple of what was deemed 'cold' balls (due to repetition) included with the hot (overdue) balls.

    oR5Zb7u.png

    Maybe we can assume 18 has recovered it's deficit by now? Surely the turn now for 47 to play catch up.

    See the price for the regular lotto is going up again in sept, glad I'd only ever consider the EuroMills, and only via the cheaper hotpicks method.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    It's not impossible (but still highly unlikely) that 18 will make it's 4th appearance in a row after such a long defecit.
    After all even with the recent 3 appearances it's still the retaining lowest appearing ball in the last 2yrs (along with 32).

    Hence think 32 is more suitable for the Pick1/2 types.

    Other nice balls (beside 32) for 8.30pm tonight could be:
    5, 10, 13, 16, 33, 35, 37, 40 & 47 (over 134 days now since last seen).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Nothing fancy tonight just 16 baller.
    Another repeater in the form of 43, a weekly repeater seems to be the norm now.

    FqZMCwP.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Have been a bit forgetful with getting the numeros on in time, one or two hotballs mixed with a cool repeater seems to be the norm.
    Actually remember marking up on the chart last week ball 32 as an outright 5-pointer, and there she comes out tonight.
    Along with [ 4 16 32 42 46]

    Here's the chart from last week, will run a forecast update (hopefully) before Friday and post up later as a reminder.

    uJuTTa3.png

    Chart bars and keys really requires some updates as well over a week old now, good to see it's getting closer to some other primaries e.g. 5, 47 (longtime!), 33, 35.
    16 & 18 can be rolled back now after an over zealous performance of late. Just struck out 32, but may well reappear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr



    Chart bars and keys really requires some updates as well over a week old now, good to see it's getting closer to some other primaries e.g. 5, 47 (longtime!), 33, 35.

    16 & 18 can be rolled back now after an over zealous performance of late. Just struck out 32, but may well reappear.

    5 & longtime single Pick1 (47) show up tonight, surely it's the start of a 47 run now to address the MIA for 151 long days.

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    Also single picked 32 for the same Pick1 last week (tue), but it showed up on Friday instead, one of the days when forgot to do it, ah well.

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    Would be nice to see 35, 10, 37 for Friday. 33 and maybe either risky 18 or the old firm favourite 50 ball for a cool 1m+ payout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,872 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Just curious, isn't there as much chance of any ball appearing anytime?

    Or am I missing something?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Just curious, isn't there as much chance of any ball appearing anytime?

    Or am I missing something?

    Yes you are technically correct, it's more a light-hearted experiment to see if there is any advantage (however small) to gain a minimal advantage.

    I don't play the regular lotto(s) as there is close to zero chance of winning anything significant, and would question anyone who would.

    Only use this method (hotpicks). Managed a few doubles so far 100/1, and few singles 10/1. Was being greedy by aiming for 4 balls (30k) and 5 balls (1m).

    Ideally should should just focus on the 3balls (1,500).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,872 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Was just wondering as there's nothing to differentiate one ball over another.

    Whereas in football or tennis you can weigh in factors like team fitness, or weather etc, but in this, unless there was some reason a 20 ball is more likely to appear than a 5 ball (perhaps slight weighting difference?) I don't see how stats can be used to predict?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,840 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Was just wondering as there's nothing to differentiate one ball over another.

    Whereas in football or tennis you can weigh in factors like team fitness, or weather etc, but in this, unless there was some reason a 20 ball is more likely to appear than a 5 ball (perhaps slight weighting difference?) I don't see how stats can be used to predict?

    If there was a code or blueprint to winning money we’d all be rich.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,872 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    If there was a code or blueprint to winning money we’d all be rich.

    Isn't that what this thread is trying to do though? Find a pattern?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Isn't that what this thread is trying to do though? Find a pattern?

    Pattern(s), yes to an extent - patterns, predictions, forecasts.

    Usually have up to 15 variables, e.g. One would be that over the 14yr data set it's more or less an even flatline, thus if there is high variance over the last 2yrs it will likely balance itself over a longer duration.

    It's not a get rich quick scheme by any means.
    But for anyone who plays the regular lotto(s) this is a much, much better alternative than a lucky dip on those 6 ball jackpots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,872 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    so... you're saying that it IS more likely a certain ball will turn up than another ball over a measured period?

    I'm just interested as I would have assumed that nothing is set and it's just as likely 1,2,3,4,5,6 would come up 4 times in a row


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    mrcheez wrote: »
    so... you're saying that it IS more likely a certain ball will turn up than another ball over a measured period?

    I'm just interested as I would have assumed that nothing is set and it's just as likely 1,2,3,4,5,6 would come up 4 times in a row

    Generally yes there is equal chance any ball can show up, but if there is any 'possibility' of any advantage (no matter how small 5, 1, 0.5% or so)

    e.g. ball 47 was overdue by a significant gap to come out, and it came out on the last week (as suggested).

    Just one variable, and not perfect, but is it a better option than blindly picking balls? Why do people even play lotto's of any kind?

    Also 'hotpicks' the game type as used here, is the best bang per buck, perhaps of any lotto.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,840 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Didn’t a winning Irish syndicate a few years ago claim they had the ‘formula’ to beat the lotto?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Didn’t a winning Irish syndicate a few years ago claim they had the ‘formula’ to beat the lotto?

    Guess a syndicate is a type of formula in itself, an en masse group attempt. This is only useful for peak lotto payouts 100m+ on the EM, due to the shareout factor.

    A syndicate may also tap into group or mass consciousness, fine for complex problem solving, not ideal for lucky balls unless UriGeller is spearheading it.

    For these regular lottos which I avoid, it is near impossible to factor any pattern on 6-balls or 7 (5+2stars) due to the sheer odds.

    <5 balls and the odds drop dramatcally, and just 4balls still equals 30k.

    Saying that one sure rule is to avoid in reuglar draws is having all <31, and weighting on <12 due to birth dates. Also, if do actually pick 1,2,3,4,5,6 on Sat, it might mean sharing the jackpot with 500 others, so never do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,872 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    One thing I did notice in the past is that in general if there are 4 odd balls then the other 2 will be even, and vice versa.

    I always thought I'd put that into practice one day, but I'd be well under several thousand at this stage ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    mrcheez wrote: »
    One thing I did notice in the past is that in general if there are 4 odd balls then the other 2 will be even, and vice versa.

    That's nice, but somewhat irrelevant pattern, as this thread is only concerned with 5 balls at the most (the clue is in the title - Euromillions main balls).

    Ideally 80% of attempts should focus on 2 balls (100 for 1.50), or 3 balls with 1.50 stake gets 1,500 back. Sure the 1m return for 5 balls (no stars) would be nice, but not as easy.

    Lets face it if you using hotpicks, instead of regular shop lotto you'd be saving thousands anyway! If you never play any lottos, sure don't bother.

    And the payout for 3 balls on the regular (more expensive) E'Mills shop-lotto last Friday? = €11, whoopie doo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,872 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    That's nice, but somewhat irrelevant pattern, as this thread is only concerned with 5 balls at the most (the clue is in the title - Euromillions main balls).

    ah right, I don't play lotto so no idea on the number though I'm assuming the pattern still holds and you would find 3 odd 2 even (and vice versa) is quite common though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    mrcheez wrote: »
    ah right, I don't play lotto so no idea on the number though I'm assuming the pattern still holds and you would find 3 odd 2 even (and vice versa) is quite common though.

    Probably, hadn't really considered it, might even be worth adding to the 12-15 existing varables.

    'Range' is likely stronger you nearly always see a low ball, mid and high among the 5 main balls. Total value count is another to use as an average.

    Another chap said using one ball from the previous draw is an advantage. Must say this has been the case of late, from memory all the recent draws do feature one or more repeaters.

    Again all this defines probability logic, and somewhat non-scientific.
    But all that matters is results, results and results (irrespective of method).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Slight correct to earlier assumption that balls will flatline over extended period,
    if anything there is stronger deviation over 14yrs.

    MOMp1sI.png

    And this is strangley refected or repeated in the just the last 2yrs (14%) of the total.
    One reason I often call 50 (was in last draw) the fallback safebet bullseye due to it's expected elasticity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Finally remembered to get the selection in in time (<7.30pm).
    Would like to see any of these: 10, 13, 32, 33. (plenty of 3x's)
    with super-primaries being 37 & 35.

    18 is still the lowest appearer over the last couple of years, so could appear even though it had a good recovery run of late.
    If was to choose a repeater (high occurance of these lately), it would be 4 or 5 (both from last week)

    Using the elastacity principle: the ever-popular 50 could well show up yet again, along with 19 & 26.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Finally remembered to get the selection in in time (<7.30pm).
    Would like to see any of these: 10, 13, 32, 33. (plenty of 3x's)
    with super-primaries being 37 & 35.

    18 is still the lowest appearer over the last couple of years, so could appear even though it had a good recovery run of late.
    If was to choose a repeater (high occurance of these lately), it would be 4 or 5 (both from last week)

    Using the elastacity principle: the ever-popular 50 could well show up yet again, along with 19 & 26.

    Couple of hot balls (32 & 18 just not on the same line).
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    #9 was actually 5th most waited (98 days) but went with the 100+days other four. Plenty of 3x's, and just one away from a couple of others (10/37).

    18 is still the lowest frequency even though it had a strong recovery run. Think it would have shared it with 32, had it not came out last night.

    35 & 37 are still super-primaries fro Friday. If picking one ball only it's 35 (but may take 2/3 draws to see it).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Again only 50/33% completion from a few lines there on Friday.

    GMY8F1d.png

    Tonight and over the next week or two will also focus on a possible couple of doubles,
    - based purely on Fibonacci retracement for low/hi peaks and golden radial arcs.
    32 is the current 1.618 section point, but is starting to recover,
    - so will tap two distinct expected elastic points while it remains so.

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    A few lines of the regular steady hotballs also.
    Note there is a couple of expected very hot ranges for tonight
    9-13 & 32-40 inc. Maybe 2/3 balls from these 14no. balls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    €130m prize due out in about 30mins, could you be even be bothered*

    Instead the 2/3/4 type hotpickers done just an hour ago, feature mainly 35 & 37 in the arrays.
    *when considering odds of getting 7 balls correct

    Tues hot ball 10 (t-123) has been eliminated, but may well repeat shortly.
    Apex point of 32 was out also on Tues, thus would like to see lucky ball #13 on a -1.62 type arc, or 44 if the other way.
    48 is due a showing, and down at the other end, 2 ball might just appear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Instead the 2/3/4 type hotpickers done just an hour ago, feature mainly 35 & 37 in the arrays.

    That's yet another hot ball (37) scratched off tonight, pencil in the other (35) for Tue maybe.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Cold balls yesterday. [ 6 / 15 / 20 / 30 / 38 ].
    The only hottish type ball that was selected - using 'expected historical projection' method, not the more primary methods.

    c4PNN5A.png

    All angles on this lower region pointed to #6 ball, unfortunately with 4 other cold balls, the double wasn't going to happen.
    35 is nearing peak absense 140days, so should be due up soon(ish).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 809 ✭✭✭filbert the fox


    right lads and lassies How are we going to get something out of this. Is it possible at all to get more than one puts in by logic.

    There are five numbers out of 50 so is it logical to assume that statistically they should be random enough to come from each decade e.g.

    2
    19
    23
    31
    47

    i'm not predicting anything so don't play these.

    I know they are all random but is it a possibility that there's a slight advantage to this thinking?:rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    right lads and lassies How are we going to get something out of this. Is it possible at all to get more than one puts in by logic.

    There are five numbers out of 50 so is it logical to assume that statistically they should be random enough to come from each decade e.g.

    2 / 19 / 23 / 31 / 47

    i'm not predicting anything so don't play these.

    I know they are all random but is it a possibility that there's a slight advantage to this thinking?rolleyes.png

    Ah but in you attempt to appear 'random' or to have 'random selections', you've utilised or applied one of the most basic of 'methodologies' i.e. spreading or indeed selections from each decade pacman.gif. Thus not random!

    You've also (either deliberately or otherwise) have selected ALL fairly medium-hot balls, possibly inspired by the forecast charts me thinks...?

    Why not just choose e.g. 1,2,3,4,5 each and every week as challenge (virtual or otherwise), or do you not 'like' those balls? Would 1-5inc not be a 'good selection' Even better, I can offer you x5 specific cold balls to use!

    Although my system isn't ideally suited for a 5ball challenge as such for various reasons including the use of dynamic array sets and hotpick 1/2/3/4/5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    There are five numbers out of 50 so is it logical to assume that statistically they should be random enough to come from each decade

    no, that is not logical at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    RayCun wrote: »
    no, that is not logical at all.

    Agree, in applying any type of methodology it's not true (random)

    We can agree (techinically) every ball has the same chance to come out.
    Again I'm simply applying theory against this defacto position for my selections.

    Not sure if the poster was also attemping to also use a 'method' for selecting.
    /Or if was trying to prove perhaps slightly sarcastically their 'random' (but not actually random) selections might be better than mine.

    Anyway folks, again don't take it too seriously again it's a 'experiment' of sorts only.

    But worth considering opions of Quantum physicists i.e. At the quantum level, reality does not exist, if you are not looking at it.” Is there a 'point particle'. What's the story with superposition and multi-verse theory?
    Why do inteligent patterns exist in this Universe, when chaos and randomness should reign supreme. What is consciousness?

    And on that cheerful note, would like to see ball 35 out tonight!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Anyway folks, again don't take it too seriously again it's a 'experiment' of sorts only.

    But worth considering opions of Quantum physicists

    invoking quantum doesn't make it scientific, nor is this an experiment.

    Want an experiment?

    Use your model to predict the numbers drawn in the next 20 drawings.
    Calculate how many numbers you are likely to get through random chance.
    Calculate how many numbers you would have to get for the difference to be statistically significant.
    Sit back and wait for the data.

    you won't do this, of course, because this isn't science


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    RayCun wrote: »
    invoking quantum doesn't make it scientific, nor is this an experiment.

    Want an experiment?

    Use your model to predict the numbers drawn in the next 20 drawings.
    Calculate how many numbers you are likely to get through random chance.
    Calculate how many numbers you would have to get for the difference to be statistically significant.
    Sit back and wait for the data.

    you won't do this, of course, because this isn't science

    Can't do this, as number selection are entirely dynamic varying on previous results, so can only attempt forecasts at the next draw, or two at most, using specific experimental 'theoretical' methods.

    Theoretical quantum theory in all it's many branches isn't 'hard-science physics' it's 'theoretical physics'.

    A growing number of these specific folks are also now suggesting we may live in 'virtual reality' of sorts, even sometimes implying a superintelligence is orchestrating what we percieve as existance itself.

    But of course this can't be proven or disproven easily. But by all means do feel free to write any objection on this concept, in a strongly worded letter to each and every one of these people. And do ask the jokers at CERN to stop messing about also.

    By the way, what is consciousness?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Can't do this, as number selection are entirely dynamic varying on previous results,

    :pac::pac::pac::pac:

    So there have been thousands of drawings so far, all providing data for your model, but one drawing will throw it out completely?

    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    Okay then, predict the next drawing.
    Don't alter the model afterwards, just feed the latest draw in, and make the next prediction.

    Repeat for 20 draws.
    Calculate how many numbers you are likely to get through random chance.
    Calculate how many numbers you would have to get for the difference to be statistically significant.
    Post on here with your results.
    Theoretical quantum theory in all it's many branches isn't 'hard-science physics' it's 'theoretical physics'.

    and you know this because you are a theoretical physicist? You've made a lifelong study of quantum phenomena, publishing multiple papers on the subject?
    A growing number of these specific folks are also now suggesting we may live in 'virtual reality' of sorts, even sometimes implying a superintelligence is orchestrating what we percieve as existance itself.

    But of course this can't be proven or disproven easily. But by all means do feel free to write any objection on this concept, in a strongly worded letter to each and every one of these people. And do ask the jokers at CERN to stop messing about also.

    FFS, you are self-refuting. The people at CERN are doing 'hard-science physics' as you call it. They didn't build a supercollider so they could sit in their armchairs and theorise about it.
    By the way, what is consciousness?

    oh dear lord


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    RayCun wrote: »
    So there have been thousands of drawings so far, all providing data for your model, but one drawing will throw it out completely?

    Thousands? queue: 'wild exaggeration'.
    Correct, each forecast in this experiment is largely dependant upon the previous.
    RayCun wrote: »
    Okay then, predict the next drawing.
    Don't alter the model afterwards, just feed the latest draw in, and make the next prediction.

    Have done, but not all are published here, only give a slight insight every so often. There isn't a 'perfect' prediction neither, nor any sort of guarantee. Again it's purely an experiment. Have 'no interest whatsoever' in keeping the same forecast for 20 in a row.
    RayCun wrote: »
    and you know this because you are a theoretical physicist? You've made a lifelong study of quantum phenomena, publishing multiple papers on the subject?

    Importantly, have you? If not, tally ho.
    RayCun wrote: »
    The people at CERN are doing 'hard-science physics' as you call it. They didn't build a supercollider so they could sit in their armchairs and theorise about it.

    The only built it to 'seek to prove' an 'unproven theory'.
    The only built it AFTER sitting in their armchairs and theorising about it.
    Has it answered all thier questions and theories yet? Nope.
    Is there a money back g'tee with it? Nope.
    What would a typical Bank Manager say if you asked for a loan to 'seek the existance of the god particle'?pacman.gif.
    RayCun wrote: »
    oh dear lord

    And you simply don't have the answer to this most common of question that has existed since the dawn of mankind pacman.gifpacman.gifpacman.gifpacman.gifpacman.gif.

    So do come back, when you have an aswer to the quesiton: what is consciousness? (this should be an easy one for you).

    And is there really a 'dear lord' as you phrased, i.e. a 'god figure'? Prove briefly that there is/isn't pacman.gif...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    this experiment is focused on the EU's 'steady' data set of x50 main balls from conception back in 2004 (14yrs).
    Thousands? queue: 'wild exaggeration'.

    700 then. But the latest is wildly important. :rolleyes:
    Have done, but not all are published here, only give a slight insight every so often. There isn't a 'perfect' prediction neither, nor any sort of guarantee. Again it's purely an experiment. Have 'no interest whatsoever' in keeping the same forecast for 20 in a row.

    So this is the kind of experiment where you don't make testable predictions, and only report things that support you.

    I'm not suggesting you make the same forecast 20 times in a row. I'm saying if this was an experiment you would

    1. Work out how often a random selection of numbers would contain matches in a defined period.
    2. Work out how large or small a difference would have to be to be statistically significant.
    3. Make your prediction each week.
    4. Compare each prediction to the results.
    5. Record the matches.
    6. Compare the number of matches you got to the number that you have worked out would be statistically significant.

    This is basic stuff.
    Importantly, have you? If not, tally ho.

    So you agree that you have no actual expertise in quantum theory?
    The only built it to 'seek to prove' an 'unproven theory'.
    The only built it AFTER sitting in their armchairs and theorising about it.

    Seriously? You think high energy particle physics has all been armchair theorising up until the hadron collider was built?
    Has it answered all thier questions and theories yet? Nope.
    Is there a money back g'tee with it? Nope.
    What would a typical Bank Manager say if you asked for a loan to 'seek the existance of the god particle'?[/IMG].

    that's okay, when they went in for their loan they told him they were researching ways to win the lottery.
    So do come back, when you have an aswer to the quesiton: what is consciousness? (this should be an easy one for you).

    And is there really a 'dear lord' as you phrased, i.e. a 'god figure'? Prove briefly that there is/isn't .

    Right, because if I can't provide a definition of consciousness and a refutation of the existence of god that satisfies you, it means lottery balls are drawn in a pattern determined by the fibonacci sequence. That connection makes perfect sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    RayCun wrote: »
    700 then.

    Nope, this casual experiement has only began Jan 2018 (see 1st post), and don't always remember or have time to calculate a chart or submit entries on time, maybe only average 85% of availble draws, so at very most 61 charts. Sometimes one one, two or three entries are made, the per draw max is 5 picks.
    RayCun wrote: »
    So this is the kind of experiment where you don't make testable predictions, and only report things that support you.

    Often make indication of predictions, for some or all of the primary numbers, and upload screengrabs afterwards where time and relevance allows.
    RayCun wrote: »
    I'm not suggesting you make the same forecast 20 times in a row. I'm saying if this was an experiment you would 1. Work out how often a random selection of numbers would contain matches in a defined period. 2. Work out h...

    I set my own methodologies, these constantly evolve and are dynamic. What you describe is your own methodology of frequency assesment.

    As mentioned on another euromillion thread, I also have better odds (by far) that 80-100m people in Europe for a 7-figure payout target.

    That's a head start on <100m people in Europe, in each and every draw for 1m prize, simply by using the 5ball hotpick method. If that isn't already a massive advantage on this typical target, over millions of others, then what is?

    How exactly you pick them is your own freedom of choice. Don't like some suggesitons, farewell.
    RayCun wrote: »
    So you agree that you have no actual expertise in quantum theory?

    And so you also agree that you also have no actual expertise or knowledge whatsoever in quantum theory? Cool.
    RayCun wrote: »
    Seriously? You think high energy particle physics has all been armchair theorising up until the hadron collider was built?

    Seriously? You think the CERN was 'not' built upon 'theory' or hypothetic predictions. That all results so far were as expected. That it carried no 'risk of success'.

    The two latest baryons (never seen before) were 'predicted' by the standard quark model (but there was assurance they would be discovered or seen). Evidence of tetraquarks is still elusive with significance of over just 3 standard deviations. Will all project investors get a refund if there isn't 5 SDs, who knows!
    RayCun wrote: »
    That's okay, when they went in for their loan they told him they were researching ways to win the lottery.

    That's exactly what any typical bank manger might have suggested to them when they asked for $1bn per annum to smash particles and observe what happens.
    RayCun wrote: »
    Right, because if I can't provide a definition of consciousness and a refutation of the existence of god that satisfies you...

    Correct you cannot prove nor unprove the unproven. Would also suggest you're a athiest, highly sceptical, very conformist and perhaps assume that your purpose is simply to live, work, retire, and eventually pass into empty nothingness.

    Dynamic evolving theories are neither right not wrong, they just 'are', much like life itself :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Nope, this casual experiement has only began Jan 2018 (see 1st post), and don't always remember or have time to calculate a chart or submit entries on time, maybe only average 85% of availble draws, so at very most 61 charts. Sometimes one one, two or three entries are made, the per draw max is 5 picks.

    But there have been 700 draws. Your theory is that you can use the results of past draws to predict future draws, so 700 draws to use.

    Unless the only draws that matter are the ones you observed, because quantum.

    Often make indication of predictions, for some or all of the primary numbers, and upload screengrabs afterwards where time and relevance allows.

    So, as I said, don't make consistent testable predictions, but post stuff afterwards.
    I set my own methodologies, these constantly evolve and are dynamic. What you describe is your own methodology of frequency assesment.

    You don't understand.

    I am not talking about your methodology for making predictions, which I'm sure is very dynamic and even quantum.

    I'm talking about basic experimental protocol. How to measure if your predictions are useful.

    Anyone can pick a random set of numbers every week, and some of them will come up, sometimes. How do you know if your method is more or less successful than pure chance?

    My guess is you don't know enough about statistics to work it out. You are welcome to prove me wrong.
    That's a head start on <100m people in Europe, in each and every draw for 1m prize, simply by using the 5ball hotpick method. If that isn't already a massive advantage on this typical target, over millions of others, then what is?

    The fact that some lotteries have better odds than others is not a secret, or controversial.

    You claim that past draws influence future draws, a classic example of the gambler's fallacy
    And so you also agree that you also have no actual expertise or knowledge whatsoever in quantum theory? Cool.

    I know enough to see you don't know what you are talking about :)

    Seriously? You think the CERN was 'not' built upon 'theory' or hypothetic predictions. That all results so far were as expected. That it carried no 'risk of success'.

    The large hadron collider is just the latest and greatest of a long series of experimental setups.
    The two latest baryons (never seen before) were 'predicted' by the standard quark model (but there was assurance they would be discovered or seen). Evidence of tetraquarks is still elusive with significance of over just 3 standard deviations.

    Yeah, congratulations on being able to google a news story.
    Will all project investors get a refund if there isn't 5 SDs, who knows!

    You don't know how the project was funded, do you? Go google some more.

    Correct you cannot prove nor unprove the unproven. Would also suggest you're a athiest, highly sceptical, very conformist and perhaps assume that your purpose is simply to live, work, retire, and eventually pass into empty nothingness.

    Dynamic evolving theories are neither right not wrong, they just 'are', much like life itself :pac:

    Ah, but you see, this is the beauty of science.
    We don't have to wave our hands and say all these things are fundamentally unknowable. Because you are making an assertion that can be tested through experiment!

    You say there is a pattern to the numbers drawn. That each draw is not an independent event, but the numbers drawn in the past influence the numbers that will be drawn in the future. This hypothesis can be tested, and shown to be right or wrong. How exciting!

    So, since you keep describing this as an experiment, do it properly!


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