Belgian Blue

Grueller · 23-09-2018 01:50PM

Super calf.
Many on here said in the past that the mousey colour costs money. Not around here though.

TITANIUM. · 23-09-2018 01:57PM

Grueller wrote: »

Super calf.
Many on here said in the past that the mousey colour costs money. Not around here though.

Ya the colour will come against her alright. She's really wide for a heifer. And a genotyped 5 star if any man was brave enough to put her in calf. What part of the Country are you operating in Grueller?

tanko · 23-09-2018 02:02PM

Savage calf, whats her breeding?

Unfortunately colour does matter a lot around here.

charolais0153 · 23-09-2018 02:33PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Hedge your bets lads and go for as charolais outta a blue.

What age....fantastic heifer..fiston i suppose

RobinBanks · 23-09-2018 02:50PM

bogman_bass wrote: »

I’m the opposite. I’ll be using more of them but i’m finishing the majority of them so can’t comment on how they perform in the mart as weanlings.

Lad down the road killed a few of them. Said they weighed like lead. Great killout

charolais0153 · 23-09-2018 02:50PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Hedge your bets lads and go for as charolais outta a blue.

She'd do well at fatstock in carrick I'd say

Mac Taylor · 23-09-2018 03:09PM

Ch is the number one around here, yellow sells better than pure while, so a lm x ch works well, I think though that the ch bull is not really the bull for a p/t farmer..

What about blonde? Suppose to cross very well with lm and ch cows?

Grueller · 23-09-2018 04:54PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Ya the colour will come against her alright. She's really wide for a heifer. And a genotyped 5 star if any man was brave enough to put her in calf. What part of the Country are you operating in Grueller?

North Wexford/South Wicklow

TITANIUM. · 23-09-2018 05:46PM

She'll be 12months mid October. Yep a Fiston out of an EDJ cow. Quite as a lamb aswell.

patsy_mccabe · 23-09-2018 07:30PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

She'll be 12months mid October. Yep a Fiston out of an EDJ cow. Quite as a lamb aswell.

Fiston isn't hard calving.

TITANIUM. · 23-09-2018 08:30PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Fiston isn't hard calving.

He's not Very handy calved. They don't come out looking like that. Same animal as suck.

TITANIUM. · 23-09-2018 08:34PM

Try again

TITANIUM. · 23-09-2018 08:38PM

Try again

Cavanjack · 23-09-2018 08:53PM

Fattened our share of them here over the years. Serious as Bulls to put on weight and they achieve excellent kill outs. On the downside I find they can have more health related problems than other breeds. Sore feet, eyes and find if they are bought straight from the cow they can be soft and more susceptible to pneumonia.
I find a lot of the good BB weanlings sold in the marts are pumped with meal and when they settle onto their winter regime here they just melt. You'd probably want to keep the meal to them.
They are also a good cross with a friesian cow better tgan a Charolais imo and they can be bought at right money as stores.
Saying all that I like them and have no problem buying them.

Never wrestle with pigs · 23-09-2018 09:42PM

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Ch is the number one around here, yellow sells better than pure while, so a lm x ch works well, I think though that the ch bull is not really the bull for a p/t farmer..

What about blonde? Suppose to cross very well with lm and ch cows?

Had a few blonde bulls here over the years and can't fault them. Easy calved and the hardest little calves you'll ever see. Come out like little farts and are nearly looking for the spins before they hit the ground. I've had them up and suckling in under 5 minutes, really unreal get up and go in them. Good for heifers too as they have really fine bone and no muscle when born and transform 4/5 weeks later. I've the wrong cows for them (SIM). Go all British breeding for muscle and style and French breeding for keeping females and slightly less style. They make super cows too. If you get the right type of long heifer out of a lim they are super cows. Big frame with style and milk and plenty of options for any breed of bull clicks with them.

Hard Knocks · 23-09-2018 09:47PM

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Had a few blonde bulls here over the years and can't fault them. Easy calved and the hardest little calves you'll ever see. Come out like little farts and are nearly looking for the spins before they hit the ground. I've had them up and suckling in under 5 minutes, really unreal get up and go in them. Good for heifers too as they have really fine bone and no muscle when born and transform 4/5 weeks later. I've the wrong cows for them (SIM). Go all British breeding for muscle and style and French breeding for keeping females and slightly less style. They make super cows too. If you get the right type of long heifer out of a lim they are super cows. Big frame with style and milk and plenty of options for any breed of bull clicks with them.

Would the British type crossed with BF give the ideal suckler cow?

charolais0153 · 23-09-2018 09:47PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Try again

Some turnaround. A miserable looking calf in all honesty

anthony500_1 · 23-09-2018 09:48PM

Never wrestle with pigs wrote:

Had a few blonde bulls here over the years and can't fault them. Easy calved and the hardest little calves you'll ever see. Come out like little farts and are nearly looking for the spins before they hit the ground. I've had them up and suckling in under 5 minutes, really unreal get up and go in them. Good for heifers too as they have really fine bone and no muscle when born and transform 4/5 weeks later. I've the wrong cows for them (SIM). Go all British breeding for muscle and style and French breeding for keeping females and slightly less style. They make super cows too. If you get the right type of long heifer out of a lim they are super cows. Big frame with style and milk and plenty of options for any breed of bull clicks with them.

Out of interest what bulls do you run with the simmentals, and are you breeding for beef or replacement market???

charolais0153 · 23-09-2018 09:51PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Would the British type crossed with BF give the ideal suckler cow?

Ideal suckler cow imo is never going to have 50% friesian in it

Never wrestle with pigs · 23-09-2018 09:53PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Would the British type crossed with BF give the ideal suckler cow?

Yes, man down the road has bf cows and a handful of sucklers too. Blonde out of his bf is most of his sucklers. Right good cows and All u grading calve out of them no problem. Gets some black calves in the next generation too but he kills everything himself so this doesn't matter to him.

Who2 · 23-09-2018 09:55PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Would the British type crossed with BF give the ideal suckler cow?

No you added bf.

TITANIUM. · 23-09-2018 10:02PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Some turnaround. A miserable looking calf in all honesty

Ya she was I agree with you. But I'd restrict the cows pre calving allot more then most lads. Starting about 2months out and go more severe in the last 3 to 6 weeks depending on the cow. They tend to take allot more of the mineral lick aswell with a bit of hunger on um.

Never wrestle with pigs · 23-09-2018 10:10PM

anthony500_1 wrote: »

Out of interest what bulls do you run with the simmentals, and are you breeding for beef or replacement market???

SIM bulls, breeding for replacement market. I've Heifers going to the ballymote and gort sale. They pay well but you take a hit on the bulls. I've bought a nice young Ch bull to use on everything next year. I think you get paid as much if not more on bulls and heifers as weanlings if done right by the Ch. My cows push my SIM bulls into 460/500 kg with 5 weeks of meal. I'm interested to see how I get on with the Ch. He is by a dovea bull that was by domino, name escapes me now but looks like a good muscle maker.

The way the year landed made me think about the whole farming and pushing numbers and becoming vounerable with weather and tight on silages. I got a bit stung last winter. I've dropped numbers and bought a handful of pedigree lims and IV a few pedigree sims. Going forward I think I will keep things simple and hopefully breed a smaller number of quality pedigree animals. I don't think that there is a huge difference in money when you add everything up like extra meal, straws, royalty frees, semen testing, holding longer etc but I'll have less calving and more dry stock. There's savage work with cows especially when working and family have to by done too. I really love suckler cows and breeding so I'll never get out of them but definitely not going to be looking for farmer of the year by pushing things to the max anymore. Sorry for going off topic ðŸ˜‚

Limestone Cowboy · 23-09-2018 10:43PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Hedge your bets lads and go for as charolais outta a blue.

Her brother here seen last week. Belonging to a friend. Born naturally aswell.

patsy_mccabe · 23-09-2018 10:47PM

Took this fella for a walk today, as he was getting lazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUDNnBkGufY&list=PL56C4B64B4D98EFF6&index=3&t=0s

TPF2012 · 23-09-2018 10:56PM

patsy_mccabe wrote:

Took this fella for a walk today, as he was getting lazy.

He wouldn't survive long on my farm. Functionality not great.

anthony500_1 · 23-09-2018 10:58PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote:

Her brother here seen last week. Belonging to a friend. Born naturally aswell.

Serious stock. I've not much more than bad cattle when you see pictures like this

valtra2 · 23-09-2018 10:59PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Took this fella for a walk today, as he was getting lazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUDNnBkGufY&list=PL56C4B64B4D98EFF6&index=3&t=0s

Sweet mother of Jesus

TITANIUM. · 23-09-2018 11:11PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Her brother here seen last week. Belonging to a friend. Born naturally aswell.

Hes a smashing calf. Don't mind Patsy he's to fond of them auld narrow Angus

bogman_bass · 24-09-2018 01:02AM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Ideal suckler cow imo is never going to have 50% friesian in it

Have to disagree with you there. If I had a choice between a 50%fr cow and a 50% CH cow I’d go for the Fr cow more often than not. For me the 50/50bluexfr is the best cow you can get.

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