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  • #92
    jfh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭jfh


    Suckler farmer wrote: »
    I was thinking of buying a few Belgian blue dairy cross heifers and letting our Aubrac bull run with them in June. Is their pelvis smaller that other breeds or is this just a myth?

    I run a lim bull on bb dairy Cross heifers, no problem calving, don't think they have the longevity though


  • #93
    charolais0153
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Farm365 wrote: »
    Why isn’t the easy calving BB suitable for suckler heifers?
    stanflt wrote: »
    Using bb here also- just had a lovely bull calf @58kgs- mother up licking in seconds- calf already sold and will go at day 14
    60kilo calfs out of springers would be fun


  • #94
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Farm365 wrote: »
    Why isn’t the easy calving BB suitable for suckler heifers?

    Sadly in allot of cases easy calving bulls (no matter the breed) can have daughters narrow at the hips


  • #95
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,488 ✭✭✭tanko


    Farm365 wrote: »
    Why isn’t the easy calving BB suitable for suckler heifers?

    When you put a BB bull on a dairy cow there's no muscle coming from the cow so the calf usually won't be too muscled when it's born.

    If you put a BB bull on a suckler heifer you're going to have muscle coming from the heifer as well as the bull so could end up with a well muscled calf with a big end that the heifer won't be able to calve.


  • #96
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,488 ✭✭✭tanko


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Sadly in allot of cases easy calving bulls (no matter the breed) can have daughters narrow at the hips

    I think that's a bit of a myth.
    I've had cows off easy calving bulls like Highlander, Ionesco, On-Dit, Milbrook tanko, Ozeus, Pirate, Rio, Kilkelly Duke, Earp etc that have very good calving ability.


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  • #97
    charolais0153
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    tanko wrote: »
    I think that's a bit of a myth.
    I've had cows off easy calving bulls like Highlander, Ionesco, On-Dit, Milbrook tanko, Ozeus, Pirate, Rio, Kilkelly Duke, Earp etc that have very good calving ability.

    U look at top 50 bulls for daughter calving ability, very few are fit for heifers. Ice cream, tvr, CWI ,adx ,tomschoice jet, mbp, joskins are all in it, no sign of eby ,Ivor or zag or fiston. Only one saler in top 50 , more than 20 charolais


  • #98
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    tanko wrote: »
    I think that's a bit of a myth.
    I've had cows off easy calving bulls like Highlander, Ionesco, On-Dit, Milbrook tanko, Ozeus, Pirate, Rio, Kilkelly Duke, Earp etc that have very good calving ability.

    From my own experience
    I’ve saw 2yo Charolais heifers calve to the Charolais bull without issue
    I helped with sections on AA heifers who couldn’t calve to the AA

    When I am choosing a bull hopefully of a daughter I look at daughters calving figures not the bulls Calving difficulty


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