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The Frederick St protest and reaction

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  • #2072
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    Know next to shag all about her or her fella, and care for either less so.

    What I do know though is that she's being pointed at by yourself and others like the protests and housing crisis is about her, and only her.

    10k last I heard, which is a shocking figure if true.

    No questions about the 10,000 personal circumstances etc.

    Just take it as gospel.


  • #2073
    c montgomery
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Vacant site tax, for a start. Any suggestions yourself?

    People taking responsibility for their own needs.


  • #2074
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    tigger123 wrote: »
    I don't have a definitive link to hand to back up my claim.

    I stand by my original point though. The issue of housing is reaching a critical mass. And I think the civil disobedience around it wll only increase as it continues to reach up through society and affect the middle classes.

    Look at what happened with the Vietnam war i
    the US. There was no urgency around it until the Government started drafting middle class college students. Then the protests really started kicking off.

    The U.S got their asses handed to them in Vietnam.

    That’s why they pulled out, they were there up until 4 hours before the Vietcong reached Ho Chi Minh.


    Try read a book and educate yourself.


  • #2075
    c montgomery
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    A massive social housing building scheme akin to the Simms-era construction of thousands of units all over Dublin, using both state-owned land, and derelict private land acquired through CPO. Has this not been repeated often enough?

    Thing is middle Ireland doesn't want to pay for it.


  • #2076
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    c montgomery wrote: »
    Thing is middle Ireland doesn't want to pay for it.

    Bloody right we don’t.

    We pay enough already.


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  • #2077
    c montgomery
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Bloody right we don’t.

    We pay enough already.

    Exactly.

    If the so called 10000 homeless were housed tomorrow you'd have another 10000 declaring homelessness the following day looking for a better house.


  • #2078
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    c montgomery wrote: »
    Exactly.

    If the so called 10000 homeless were housed tomorrow you'd have another 10000 declaring homelessness the following day looking for a better house.

    People can’t grasp this simple concept.

    Brain dead.


  • #2079
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    pjohnson wrote: »
    It seems AH has a huge fetish over her, if she does anything on FB theres a gaggle rushing here to report it. :pac:

    Defo have her bookmarked and checked every hour.

    If she didn't exist, right-wing arseholes would have to find some other method of distracting from the fact that a lot of working people can neither find nor afford somewhere to rent right now.


  • #2080
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,443 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    People can’t grasp this simple concept.

    Brain dead.

    Dont be so hard on yourself


  • #2081
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    The U.S got their asses handed to them in Vietnam.

    That’s why they pulled out, they were there up until 4 hours before the Vietcong reached Ho Chi Minh.


    Try read a book and educate yourself.

    I was referring to how the civil disobedience in the US increased dramatically when they started drafting middle class kids into the Vietnam war.

    I was making a comparison to what's happening now with the issue of housing in Ireland. As these issues reach up into the middle class, a sense of urgency and action starts to take hold in society.


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  • #2082
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Dont be so hard on yourself

    Awh tanks hunzo xx


  • #2083
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    tigger123 wrote: »
    I was referring to how the civil disobedience in the US increased dramatically when they started drafting middle class kids into the Vietnam war.

    I was making a comparison to what's happening now with the issue of housing in Ireland. As these issues reach up into the middle class, a sense of urgency and action starts to take hold in society.

    Yes the so-called housing crisis in Ireland is akin to the Vietnam war.

    Good comparison comrade.


  • #2084
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    c montgomery wrote: »
    Thing is middle Ireland doesn't want to pay for it.

    Who is 'middle Ireland'?


  • #2085
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    Who is 'middle Ireland'?

    People who pay taxes.


    700,000 working people don’t past any income tax.

    Hence the middle class.


  • #2086
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    have we a measure on how much awareness was raised by todays tantrum

    how much awareness is left to be raised before we house the 100000 homeless

    i think its a house built for every five awarenesses but i havent looked into it fully tbh


  • #2087
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    Who is 'middle Ireland'?

    People who pay taxes.


    700,000 working people don’t pay tany income tax.

    Hence the middle class.


  • #2088
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,443 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    People who pay taxes.


    700,000 working people don’t past any income tax.

    Hence the middle class.

    The whingers who pay taxes you mean.


  • #2089
    c montgomery
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    Just watched coverage of today's protest.
    Is there a shower crises too? Haven't seen that many grimey people since Monday of electric picnic.


  • #2090
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pjohnson wrote: »
    The whingers who pay taxes you mean.

    this from a poster who supports people who lie down in the street when they dont get what they want

    its a headscratcher


  • #2091
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    pjohnson wrote: »
    The whingers who pay taxes you mean.

    Well they keep the country going.

    You just call them whingers, interesting.


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  • #2092
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,443 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    this from a poster who supports people who lie down in the street when they dont get what they want

    its a headscratcher

    Where did I say I support them?

    I'm just laughing at the permanently whinging who do nothing but whinge or come up with utterly daft "solutions"


  • #2093
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Where did I say I support them?

    I'm just laughing at the permanently whinging who do nothing but whinge or come up with utterly daft "solutions"

    But sure the protesters today were whinging???????


  • #2094
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,443 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Well they keep the country going.

    You just call them whingers, interesting.

    No as I said before theres two types of tax payers. Those who pay tax and get on with their lives and then theres tax payers like you :)


  • #2095
    [Deleted User]
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    pjohnson wrote: »
    Where did I say I support them?

    I'm just laughing at the permanently whinging who do nothing but whinge or come up with utterly daft "solutions"

    and pay taxes

    and arent a huge drain on society

    which is important in the general run of things

    but have a good laugh there im sure youre in a happy place


  • #2096
    goose2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    blackwhite wrote: »
    Are you seriously trying to claim that there wouldn’t be any media coverage of the homeless problem if these scum didn’t block O’Connell Bridge?

    It’s been the top story for most of the past 18 months at least.

    In terms of what they should do? Maybe do something to highlight the vast numbers of council-owned properties sitting idle?
    But that doesn’t fit the anti-capitalist nonsense that the groups organising these protest are actually focused on, so they won’t ever do that

    or, indeed, that the worst land-hoarders are local authorities


  • #2097
    pjohnson
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    and pay taxes

    and arent a huge drain on society

    which is important in the general run of things

    but have a good laugh there im sure youre in a happy place

    I dont laugh at tax payers who simply pay taxes. Just those who thinks it gives them a right to dictate society :pac:


  • #2098
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pjohnson wrote: »
    I dont laugh at tax payers who simply pay taxes. Just those who thinks it gives them a right to dictate society :pac:

    bizzarrer and bizzarrer

    paying into the shared pot means you cant complain at all

    doing nothing means you should be lauded for lying in the street when you dont get free stuff

    funny stuff again


  • #2099
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    People who pay taxes.


    700,000 working people don’t past any income tax.

    Hence the middle class.

    Many of those whom you categorise as 'middle Ireland' do not qualify for mortgages and have no choice but to hand over half of their monthly earnings to a landlord every month. Perhaps c montgomery might explain why those people wouldn't want their taxes to pay for the kind of huge social housing programme that would result in vastly lower rental costs for everyone?


  • #2100
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,443 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    bizzarrer and bizzarrer

    paying into the shared pot means you cant complain at all

    doing nothing means you should be lauded for lying in the street when you dont get free stuff

    funny stuff again

    Again when did I laud anyone :pac:


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  • #2101
    c montgomery
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    I would call middle Ireland those who already own a home, can afford to own a home in the future or who can rent a property without too much hassle.


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