Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

Alrigghtythen · 22-09-2018 10:33AM

Dannyriver wrote: »

You re kidding me. :eek:

I think they're trying the old, "if your loosing a debate, try and make the other side look like extremists" tactic

Dannyriver · 22-09-2018 11:07AM

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

I think they're trying the old, "if your loosing a debate, try and make the other side look like extremists" tactic

Unfortunately knowing some of the posters on here I wouldn t doubt that making these kinds of choices for women would be a reasonable solution in their eyes

pjohnson · 22-09-2018 11:08AM

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

I think they're trying the old, "if your loosing a debate, try and make the other side look like extremists" tactic

Nah just thinking for those whining it'd solve their problems. BUT no more than the idea of voting for/creating a party to "fix" Ireland they just wanna keep whining.

Wheety · 22-09-2018 11:46AM

Dannyriver wrote: »

That s a heart breaking story Bernard and thank you for sharing it.

Sad story Bernard. Could you send that to a few TDs?

All Seeing Eye · 22-09-2018 11:49AM

In a roundabout way what I am saying is there was no unmarried/single mothers back then with 7 kids pleading homelessness. They’d only have 1 kid and then be locked away in one of those places so it never got to the point where they would have to sleep in a Garda station with 7 kids.

Dannyriver · 22-09-2018 11:53AM

All Seeing Eye wrote: »

In a roundabout way what I am saying is there was no unmarried mothers back then with 7 kids pleading homelessness. They’d only have 1 kid and then be locked away in one of those places so it never got to the point where they would have to sleep in a Garda station with 7 kids.

If you go further back medical care was so poor women died giving birth so it never got to the point where they would have to sleep in a garda station with 7 kids.... what point are you making?

22-09-2018 11:55AM

All Seeing Eye wrote: »

In a roundabout way what I am saying is there was no unmarried mothers back then with 7 kids pleading homelessness. They’d only have 1 kid and then be locked away in one of those places so it never got to the point where they would have to sleep in a Garda station with 7 kids.

You do realise that Ms Cash isn’t an unmarried mother?

All Seeing Eye · 22-09-2018 11:56AM

Deleted User wrote: »

You do realise that Ms Cash isn’t an unmarried mother?

May aswell be with her husband locked up all the time. Let’s say single mother then.

NasserShammaz · 22-09-2018 11:57AM

All Seeing Eye wrote: »

In a roundabout way what I am saying is there was no unmarried mothers back then with 7 kids pleading homelessness. They’d only have 1 kid and then be locked away in one of those places so it never got to the point where they would have to sleep in a Garda station with 7 kids.

Not this lady, were any traveller children or women ever put in these hellholes, I don't think so, they kept it in house and the church probably taught they weren't wort it anyway

All Seeing Eye · 22-09-2018 12:02PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You do realise that Ms Cash isn’t an unmarried mother?

All corrected now Mary. Was she married when she had her first kid? Back in the day a woman in her situation with her husband in prison have been put in a home and her kids locked up too.

All Seeing Eye · 22-09-2018 12:03PM

Dannyriver wrote: »

If you go further back medical care was so poor women died giving birth so it never got to the point where they would have to sleep in a garda station with 7 kids.... what point are you making?

The church were keeping a lid on all this. Helping to make sure there was no homeless crisis.

Dannyriver · 22-09-2018 12:04PM

All Seeing Eye wrote: »

All corrected now Mary. Was she married when she had her first kid? Back in the day a woman in her situation with her husband in prison have been put in a home and her kids locked up too.

Im still struggling to figure out whether you think that would be a good or a bad thing..or if you are just making a historical observation...apologies if |i'm misreading it.

Alrigghtythen · 22-09-2018 12:07PM

All Seeing Eye wrote: »

The church were keeping a lid on all this. Helping to make sure there was no homeless crisis.

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22-09-2018 12:09PM

All Seeing Eye wrote: »

All corrected now Mary. Was she married when she had her first kid? Back in the day a woman in her situation with her husband in prison have been put in a home and her kids locked up too.

I imagine that her family would have rallied round and looked after her.

Electric Sheep · 22-09-2018 12:16PM

All Seeing Eye wrote: »

In a roundabout way what I am saying is there was no unmarried/single mothers back then with 7 kids pleading homelessness. They’d only have 1 kid and then be locked away in one of those places so it never got to the point where they would have to sleep in a Garda station with 7 kids.

Actually, many of the women who ended up in the Laundries DID have several kids, all of which were taken from them. Part of the reason for being sent to the Laundry was repeated pregnancies, or "not learning their lesson".

All Seeing Eye · 22-09-2018 12:17PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I imagine that her family would have rallied round and looked after her.

That’s what they should be doing now instead of us tax payers picking up the tab. Years ago spare kids would be sent off to live with relatives and grand parents.

All Seeing Eye · 22-09-2018 12:20PM

Electric Sheep wrote: »

Actually, many of the women who ended up in the Laundries DID have several kids, all of which were taken from them. Part of the reason for being sent to the Laundry was repeated pregnancies, or "not learning their lesson".

So problem solved then. The tax payer wasn’t expected to fund their lifestyles from cradle to grave.

Dannyriver · 22-09-2018 12:34PM

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

I think they're trying the old, "if your loosing a debate, try and make the other side look like extremists" tactic

Turns out they weren't trying out any old anything.

NasserShammaz · 22-09-2018 01:38PM

Did Margaret (Loadsa) Cash get into the Aras the other day http://www.thejournal.ie/security-at-aras-an-uachtarain-4249413-Sep2018/

ShaneC93 · 22-09-2018 01:46PM

Radio interview from Ms.Cash on Ocean FM yesterday:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tr00dvvy645hrha/Margaret%20Cash%20on%20Ocean%20FM.mp3

Strikes me as oddd that the host introduces her immediately as "traveller mother of seven". I thought she had settled years ago and had been commenting bad of anyone who brought up her traveller past. Now suddenly the past few days she takes part in a traveller group protest outside the Dail and is using that as her radio intro? Also I don't see how it was really relevent to the segment.

NasserShammaz · 22-09-2018 01:49PM

ShaneC93 wrote: »

Radio interview from Ms.Cash on Ocean FM yesterday:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tr00dvvy645hrha/Margaret%20Cash%20on%20Ocean%20FM.mp3

Strikes me as oddd that the host introduces her immediately as "traveller mother of seven". I thought she had settled years ago and had been commenting bad of anyone who brought up her traveller past. Now suddenly the past few days she takes part in a traveller group protest outside the Dail and is using that as her radio intro? Also I don't see how it was really relevent to the segment.

Better watch out Cash is about

Shes got previous when it comes to trips to the countryside although she was only sitting in the car with the stolen good your honor

ShaneC93 · 22-09-2018 01:58PM

Would have been great if the radio host were to have posed any of the tough questions that no journalist seems to want to ask. Why you'd keep on having kids when you're already homeless / on the housing list. He just let her say her piece without asking any questions at all..

Dannyriver · 22-09-2018 02:25PM

ShaneC93 wrote: »

Radio interview from Ms.Cash on Ocean FM yesterday:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tr00dvvy645hrha/Margaret%20Cash%20on%20Ocean%20FM.mp3

Strikes me as oddd that the host introduces her immediately as "traveller mother of seven". I thought she had settled years ago and had been commenting bad of anyone who brought up her traveller past. Now suddenly the past few days she takes part in a traveller group protest outside the Dail and is using that as her radio intro? Also I don't see how it was really relevent to the segment.

What strikes me as odd is that Ms Cash's detractors on here haven't taken the time to distance themselves from All seeing eye who suggests that a return to magdelene laundries is a reasonable solution. Are we to take it that you all agree with him.

Gatling · 22-09-2018 02:30PM

ShaneC93 wrote: »

Would have been great if the radio host were to have posed any of the tough questions that no journalist seems to want to ask. Why you'd keep on having kids when you're already homeless / on the housing list. He just let her say her piece without asking any questions at all..

It took her weeks to declare she's now a traveler woman ,where before she was homeless but not poor ,now she's being held up as some poster child for traveller rights ,

She's a total sham along with her supporters

end of the road · 22-09-2018 02:31PM

ShaneC93 wrote: »

Would have been great if the radio host were to have posed any of the tough questions that no journalist seems to want to ask. Why you'd keep on having kids when you're already homeless / on the housing list. He just let her say her piece without asking any questions at all..

i'd imagine the real reason journalists won't ask such questions isn't because they are afraid to, but because they are irrelevant and there would be no point, because the answers miss cash would give wouldn't be good enough for the people wanting these questions to be asked.

NasserShammaz · 22-09-2018 02:35PM

Dannyriver wrote: »

What strikes me as odd is that Ms Cash's detractors on here haven't taken the time to distance themselves from All seeing eye who suggests that a return to magdelene laundries is a reasonable solution. Are we to take it that you all agree with him.

Maybe because its a barmy idea ( Which is doubtful) and even if its not tongue in cheek its nonsense.

Playing the system ,skipping the Q and bearing no personal responsibility for your actions and expecting everyone else to pay for it has got nothing to do with the idea of Magdalene laundries or the reasons they were used by the Ba*tard church and state for many years. Its just a lazy idea that pretends to be a reasoned argument

Edgware · 22-09-2018 02:45PM

ShaneC93 wrote: »

Would have been great if the radio host were to have posed any of the tough questions that no journalist seems to want to ask. Why you'd keep on having kids when you're already homeless / on the housing list. He just let her say her piece without asking any questions at all..

Because she likes it bareback

freshpopcorn · 22-09-2018 02:51PM

ShaneC93 wrote: »

Would have been great if the radio host were to have posed any of the tough questions that no journalist seems to want to ask. Why you'd keep on having kids when you're already homeless / on the housing list. He just let her say her piece without asking any questions at all..

They know it will be pointless asking and will just get hassle for asking it off people on the internet.
Some people see's Ms Cash as an innocent and vulnerable woman who has a right to a house. Who just happens to keep on having children but that isn't relevant and making her situation worse.

NasserShammaz · 22-09-2018 02:57PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

They know it will be pointless asking and will just get hassle for asking it off people on the internet.
Some people see's Ms Cash as an innocent and vulnerable woman who has a right to a house. Who just happens to keep on having children but that isn't relevant and making her situation worse.

They might be worried it would descend into a complete car crash and tirade possibly and they would loose control of the interview , so softly softly and they've done their bit

Dannyriver · 22-09-2018 03:23PM

NasserShammaz wrote: »

Maybe because its a barmy idea ( Which is doubtful) and even if its not tongue in cheek its nonsense.

Playing the system ,skipping the Q and bearing no personal responsibility for your actions and expecting everyone else to pay for it has got nothing to do with the idea of Magdalene laundries or the reasons they were used by the Ba*tard church and state for many years. Its just a lazy idea that pretends to be a reasoned argument

Just because ideas are barmy doesn t mean they shouldn t be denounced, it's not tongue in cheek I challenged him numerous times to explain himself to which he declined.

Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

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