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Sherlock - A game of Werewolf!

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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Orla WW wrote: »
    I got a message, yeah. Tbh, I thought it might have been you as you railed back in pretty quickly on your vote on me, but I guess it was Winnie.

    Basically said that they were trying to form a village core, if I was evil she'd die in 12 hours.

    Got it about 9.20am or so. Said they'd identify themselves by voting me in the lynch.

    So I thought it was you, tbh - especially with the 'have to vote for someone' excuse.

    But do you think Wini's Village or Wolf?

    I had you at least neutral from Monday evening afterwards, and Eva a decent village lean, so I think you're both good and believe you both that you got a message. But, I'm curious as to your own take on Wini's role. She clearly has a role, but wondering which way it leans. I have a very, VERY slight village lean on her at the moment, but as you both are in the centre of it I think getting your perspectives would be more pertinent.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Conor WW


    Ok. I've skimmed through a lot of these posts and don't know who I believe about what right now but I have one big question for Wini. If we accept what you're saying, what about Irene Adler? You're 'power' is a kind of peek with a sting in the tail so what if Eva/Orla/Anon are Irene?


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Nigel WW wrote: »
    But do you think Wini's Village or Wolf?

    I had you at least neutral from Monday evening afterwards, and Eva a decent village lean, so I think you're both good and believe you both that you got a message. But, I'm curious as to your own take on Wini's role. She clearly has a role, but wondering which way it leans. I have a very, VERY slight village lean on her at the moment, but as you both are in the centre of it I think getting your perspectives would be more pertinent.

    Well like, SOMEONE sent me a message, so unless another person wants to disprove her then I sort of have to, at least for now.

    Via my convo with Desmond yesterday, I was leaning town anyways as she was hellbent on me (and him) dying.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Winifred WW


    Conor WW wrote: »
    Ok. I've skimmed through a lot of these posts and don't know who I believe about what right now but I have one big question for Wini. If we accept what you're saying, what about Irene Adler? You're 'power' is a kind of peek with a sting in the tail so what if Eva/Orla/Anon are Irene?

    They could be. I have no way of knowing that. All I know is at the time of the message, or at least 12 hours after, they were good. So I guess it's not 100 per cent perfect.

    But neither is Sherlock when it comes to Irene so...


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Abigail WW wrote: »
    Really think the i'll vote for you thing is an odd choice as no offense Orla but I wouldn't have been confident nobody else would vote for you. That said what your saying at least lines up with what Wini said. Does not confirm it but still matches it



    Do you believe Wini?

    Exactly! Putting someon on your FFA because they're innocent is a stupid tactic. Especially if you're some kind of semi seer. THe first thing people look at when they discover a seer has died is their FFAs. It's the place where you literally state who you suspect of being a wolf.


    However, a wolf putting another wolf (a noisy one at that too) on their FFA to avoid suspicion makes WAAAY more sense here.


    Also the timing of this is absolutely abysmal. I accuse the two of ye late last night and first thing this mornign ye both have proof of being good? Hah.


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Orla WW wrote: »
    Well like, SOMEONE sent me a message, so unless another person wants to disprove her then I sort of have to, at least for now.

    Via my convo with Desmond yesterday, I was leaning town anyways as she was hellbent on me (and him) dying.

    Still not really answering my question there though. I'm not asking whether you think the message came from Wini or not, I'm asking if you think Wini's is a good or evil power.



    & @Eva, would like your perspective here too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭WerewolfGM


    Clodagh WW has died of poisoning.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    WerewolfGM wrote: »
    Irene Adler – "This is how I want you to remember me. The woman who beat you."

    Irene can be sent away from the backroom. When sent way she will not be able to contact the villains but she still must act in their interest, when sent away she will be seen as Scotland yard officer to any peeks or deaths and also parity counts, she can be recalled into the backroom at any stage but this can only be done once in which she will then remain in the backroom as a villain. Recalling Irene into the backroom has a 24hr timer from request.

    At a guess, I would say that if Wini sent the note to Irene, she would die 12 hours later if Irene was in backroom, and live if Irene was out of backroom.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    My darling!!!! Make you wonder was she on to something!!


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭Abigail WW


    Orla does not fully believe wini but confirms the message, it's time etc what happens if the next person does the same?

    We believe the messages exist at least but like Orla continue to be weary of the source?

    Eva do you believe Wini? I get more of a vibe of you doing so than not


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Winifred WW


    Clodagh WW wrote: »
    Exactly! Putting someon on your FFA because they're innocent is a stupid tactic. Especially if you're some kind of semi seer. THe first thing people look at when they discover a seer has died is their FFAs. It's the place where you literally state who you suspect of being a wolf.


    However, a wolf putting another wolf (a noisy one at that too) on their FFA to avoid suspicion makes WAAAY more sense here.


    Also the timing of this is absolutely abysmal. I accuse the two of ye late last night and first thing this mornign ye both have proof of being good? Hah.

    How the fcuk do you want me to react when you're waving a gun around in my face FFS?


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    How the fcuk do you want me to react when you're waving a gun around in my face FFS?

    Have respect for the dead!


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭Abigail WW


    Poisoning - the pills I presume?


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Winifred WW


    Brendan WW wrote: »
    Have respect for the dead!

    Didn't see the notice until after I responded, sorry.

    Point still stands though.

    Now I'm sorry, I have to go. I've been away from work long enough already. Be back at about 7pm or so.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,250 ✭✭✭Liam WW


    Must be the pills. Which means that Jeff Hope is still alive.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    If it was the pills I would have thought she would have mentioned it in the BR. I wonder was it another blackmail with pills instead of bullets this time?


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭Derry WW


    Liam WW wrote: »
    Must be the pills. Which means that Jeff Hope is still alive.

    My fear, tbh, is that this morning was about keeping Wini alive till the pills cold launch :/

    I don't believe the story. I don't believe the fact that two of the most suspected people last night just happened to be the ones who can confirm someone who was nearly killed last night.
    I don't believe the character name is one that would be massively involved in this adventure, and I don't believe they'd give said character a second seer ability.
    I don't think Wini has been acting like someone who was peeking people as good either.
    I don't see why Wini was so, so sure of Desmond being a wolf if she couldn't have peeked him bad.
    I don't see why someone who can do a seer check and pass an anonymous note would use said note to out themselves to the person they were worried could be bad.

    Oh. And I don't see why the wolves would choose to off a vig over someone claiming to be a bloody seer!!!
    Brendan WW wrote: »
    If it was the pills I would have thought she would have mentioned it in the BR. I wonder was it another blackmail with pills instead of bullets this time?

    I'm guessing the pills are a "You cannot do anything else till you make this decision" deal. You can't consult anyone.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,250 ✭✭✭Liam WW


    Charles Augustus Magnussen – The Napoleon of blackmail
    Charles is a very powerful individual and has the option to blackmail another player at a time of his choosing.

    I would read this as a one off power, no?

    So if he already blackmailed Mary Watson there would be no more blackmailing?


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭Eva WW


    I messaged three? The person I haven't confirmed on thread, I'd prefer them to do that themselves if it's absolutely necessary.

    I'm not saying you should confirm them Winifred, but I think we're approaching 'absolutely necessary'. This is a mad role, one I believe could be in the game, but we need to get it cleared up asap because as we can see from thread reaction, it's not a solid enough claim.

    ...................

    Be it myself, Wini, Orla, Gabriel, Clodagh, Brendan, we are looking at the same people 100% of the time now.

    Fúck it, I'll say it now where as I only alluded to her in an earlier post this morning in response to Gabriel and my work ethic - Where the fúck are the likes of Isla? So many people going under the radar like her while we get tunneled on a couple of things.

    That's why I feel we need to sort out Wini's claim asap. Never mind clearing Wini, it clears me and Orla who have been in each other's throats and possibly wasting a lot of village time in the process.

    I really want Wini's claim to be true, but not to the point where I am 100% accepting it right now.

    People who want her claim to be false or are sure it is, maybe you could afford that same bit of objectivity.

    Skepticism is one thing, but going flat-out of your way to shoot down what could be a very good RV, that's not good for the village.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,250 ✭✭✭Liam WW


    Derry WW wrote: »
    My fear, tbh, is that this morning was about keeping Wini alive till the pills cold launch :/

    I don't believe the story. I don't believe the fact that two of the most suspected people last night just happened to be the ones who can confirm someone who was nearly killed last night.
    I don't believe the character name is one that would be massively involved in this adventure, and I don't believe they'd give said character a second seer ability.
    I don't think Wini has been acting like someone who was peeking people as good either.
    I don't see why Wini was so, so sure of Desmond being a wolf if she couldn't have peeked him bad.
    I don't see why someone who can do a seer check and pass an anonymous note would use said note to out themselves to the person they were worried could be bad.

    Oh. And I don't see why the wolves would choose to off a vig over someone claiming to be a bloody seer!!!

    Ok so what is the alternative here? Wini is a wolf who has a secret hidden power that we weren't informed of? (possible I guess) Or Wini, Orla, Eva and this other anon person are the wolf team and are all coming out en masse to claim a big role? It's very ballsy if so.


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Brendan WW wrote: »
    My darling!!!! Make you wonder was she on to something!!

    She never confirmed what you said on thread as far as I can see.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Derry WW wrote: »
    Oh. And I don't see why the wolves would choose to off a vig over someone claiming to be a bloody seer!!!

    Mmm, this is actually an excellent point. Unless the pills were already sent before Wini revealed and couldn't be redacted?


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    Liam you are some sneaky wolf.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,250 ✭✭✭Liam WW


    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    Liam you are some sneaky wolf.

    I am? That's news to me.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Eva WW wrote: »
    I'm not saying you should confirm them Winifred, but I think we're approaching 'absolutely necessary'. This is a mad role, one I believe could be in the game, but we need to get it cleared up asap because as we can see from thread reaction, it's not a solid enough claim.

    ...................

    Be it myself, Wini, Orla, Gabriel, Clodagh, Brendan, we are looking at the same people 100% of the time now.

    Fúck it, I'll say it now where as I only alluded to her in an earlier post this morning in response to Gabriel and my work ethic - Where the fúck are the likes of Isla? So many people going under the radar like her while we get tunneled on a couple of things.

    That's why I feel we need to sort out Wini's claim asap. Never mind clearing Wini, it clears me and Orla who have been in each other's throats and possibly wasting a lot of village time in the process.

    I really want Wini's claim to be true, but not to the point where I am 100% accepting it right now.

    People who want her claim to be false or are sure it is, maybe you could afford that same bit of objectivity.

    Skepticism is one thing, but going flat-out of your way to shoot down what could be a very good RV, that's not good for the village.

    Relax Eva . I’m the other person who received the note.

    I’ve been reluctant to completely be on board cause I wasn’t sure if it was a baddy or goody role. I felt my dancing with Dessie was the reason Winnie chose me.

    My internet was down for most of morning and I’m making lunch now.

    I posted to Winnie at 9.08 last night because that was 12 hours after I received my note fork Winnie. I was worried that I might die after 12 hours of helping Winnie get Dessie and that nobody would know why. So I posted as close to 9.08 in case the 12 hour thing was a ruse and I would die. I was leaving a clue for people to look at Winnie as my potential last post.

    I’m leaning on team good but I thought it would be more a Mrs Hudson type of power.

    And it’s not a seer power if we believe the dynamics being explained. Basically the person has to put their knock on the line every day when they pick somebody.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    I think this is right

    Alive (15):
    Abigail WW
    Brendan WW - claimed Mary Watson, Bodyguard
    Conor WW
    Derry WW
    Eva WW - team village per Winifred if she (Wini) still lives past 9pm
    Gabriel WW
    Gertrude WW
    Holly WW
    Isla WW
    Liam WW
    Nigel WW
    Orla WW - team village per Winifred
    Riona WW
    Steve WW
    Winifred WW - claimed Janine Hawkins

    Dead:
    Barbara WW - munch day 3
    Clodagh WW - poisoned day 3, John Watson, vigilante
    Desmond WW - shot by vig day 2
    Doris WW - lynched day 2
    Frank WW - killed by SK day 1
    Katie WW - lynched day 1
    Mary WW - munched day 1
    Oisin WW - modkilled
    Tegan WW - shot by Brendan under blackmail day 2
    Wendy WW - munched day 2, assumed unknown rolled villager


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭Eva WW


    Orla WW wrote: »
    Heh, yeah I got a message alright. Wasn't sure if it was Winnie or Nigel, but mine read the same as what Eva is claiming.

    So I guess if Winnie doesn't die this evening I might owe Eva an apology :o

    Like wise, although I'm sure we'll still stand by our points against each other.:pac:

    I feel you have tunneled hard on me, and you maybe feel likewise about me. Fúck that for now though - Sure Wini could still be bad, and as far as the village are concerned we could still be all on a wolf team together, but you and me talking here...

    Even though Wini could be bad, are you at least starting to feel a bit better about me? As much as it kills me to say it, Wini's claim is making me doubt all I thought about you.

    She could be bad, but she identifies two villagers who have backed up what she has said about them - You did not die after 12 hours, I will not either. If she is a wolf, she is playing some fúcked up game in confirming at least 2 villagers. If we're all wolves, well weren't you great in almost getting me your wolf buddy lynched last night?

    This is going to get awkward - With the way the thread is reacting, we are going to get to the point of Brendan/Clodagh vs Wini and The Messaged. If we are all truly village, we need to avoid that point and come together.

    As I said in the last post, while we devour each other here, where are some low posters on Day 3? Yesterday, I was almost strung up by the balls cause I didn't contribute much, cause I was a low poster. A sub who came in late on Day 1. On Day 3 now, we have people really coasting along under the radar since Day 0. I stressed that low posters isn't the be-all and end-all, but also said that it is still important to keep an eye on them. Well, that has completely disappeared today.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭Abigail WW


    Honestly I have no idea what to think or who to suspect now. I'd love to think that we have an insta village core but even some of those 4 don't trust the situation while claiming to be good. I get the impression that Riona & Eva at least think or want to think Wini is on the level but nothing confirms anything!


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Eva WW wrote: »
    Like wise, although I'm sure we'll still stand by our points against each other.:pac:

    I feel you have tunneled hard on me, and you maybe feel likewise about me. Fúck that for now though - Sure Wini could still be bad, and as far as the village are concerned we could still be all on a wolf team together, but you and me talking here...

    Even though Wini could be bad, are you at least starting to feel a bit better about me? As much as it kills me to say it, Wini's claim is making me doubt all I thought about you.

    She could be bad, but she identifies two villagers who have backed up what she has said about them - You did not die after 12 hours, I will not either. If she is a wolf, she is playing some fúcked up game in confirming at least 2 villagers. If we're all wolves, well weren't you great in almost getting me your wolf buddy lynched last night?

    This is going to get awkward - With the way the thread is reacting, we are going to get to the point of Brendan/Clodagh vs Wini and The Messaged. If we are all truly village, we need to avoid that point and come together.

    As I said in the last post, while we devour each other here, where are some low posters on Day 3? Yesterday, I was almost strung up by the balls cause I didn't contribute much, cause I was a low poster. A sub who came in late on Day 1. On Day 3 now, we have people really coasting along under the radar since Day 0. I stressed that low posters isn't the be-all and end-all, but also said that it is still important to keep an eye on them. Well, that has completely disappeared today.

    I don't have a clue what to think anymore!! I'm wondering if the people who stood back and let our whole argument continue on and on are the ones we should be looking at right now.

    But I'm so tired from fighting with you (and also busy today) that I don't have the energy to post as much as normal :pac::pac:

    I'm gonna read back from our initial butting of heads and see who stood on the sidelines and didn't get involved I think.

    But yeah, it's looking like a Messenged VS others, and I don't like that either.


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,250 ✭✭✭Liam WW


    How about we park Wini as unconfirmed good and assume that the village core is Brendan, Orla, Riona and maybe Eva for now? Can we move forward with that at least?

    Lynch then from the following group:
    Abigail
    Conor
    Derry
    Gabriel
    Gertrude
    Holly
    Isla
    Liam
    Nigel
    Steve


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