NBP: National Broadband Plan Announced

wexfordman2 · 18-09-2018 04:28PM

The Cush wrote: »

Not quite yet

https://twitter.com/willgoodbody/status/1042070229264871425

Of ffs!!!

rodge123 · 18-09-2018 04:30PM

Mahony0509 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/willgoodbody/status/1042069518930075649?s=21

Done deal.

Little bit concerning that it’s only received and not accepted!

Hopefully goverment just pay up and opposition don’t play political football with it around costs!

irishfeen · 18-09-2018 04:34PM

rodge123 wrote: »

Little bit concerning that it’s only received and not accepted!

Hopefully goverment just pay up and opposition don’t play political football with it around costs!

Just procedure I would assume, absolutely no way that the government won’t accept the tender eventually, too much political colateral damage at risk.

rodge123 · 18-09-2018 04:39PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Just procedure I would assume, absolutely no way that the government won’t accept the tender eventually, too much political colateral damage at risk.

Hopefully and hopefully they haven’t brought a certain wireless operator onboard!

jgbyr · 18-09-2018 04:40PM

https://www.rte.ie/news/technology/2018/0918/994579-broadband/

tsue921i8wljb3 · 18-09-2018 05:10PM

The statement also confirms that the company will have long-term access to open Eir's 1.2 million rural pole infrastructure, as well as their duct network.

Looks like a deal was done with eir.

Nokia also listed as a partner so I assume they'll be using their FTTH products and not Huawei.

fergus1001 · 18-09-2018 05:13PM

"Come on Denis"

tsue921i8wljb3 · 18-09-2018 05:34PM

There also seems to have been changes to the consortium make up with Granahan McCourt now leading the partnership. enet are now listed as a partner. IIF are no longer listed. I wonder were there state-aid implications that led to the changes?

KOR101 · 18-09-2018 05:52PM

“Much has been said about the 30Mbps target set by the NBP, but the network we intend to build is a gigabit network, capable of delivering 1,000Mbps,” Peter Hendrick, National Broadband Ireland’s bid director said.

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/a-landmark-day-for-rural-broadband-404639

KOR101 · 18-09-2018 05:54PM

Did anyone watch the Dail committee meeting? Was she asked anything about the agreed access?

KOR101 · 18-09-2018 05:55PM

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/construction/denis-o-brien-in-consortium-bidding-for-national-broadband-plan-1.3633508

Johnboy1951 · 18-09-2018 05:59PM

I wondered if eir were almost forced into making a deal by commercial decisions.
They must have been worried that Siro could easily decide to move again if the NBP failed this time, as Siro would have gained great experience by the time it mattered ..... both commercially and technically.

A new NBP just might be in Siro's favour.

ednwireland · 18-09-2018 06:02PM

where do i sign ?

tsue921i8wljb3 · 18-09-2018 06:03PM

KOR101 wrote: »

Did anyone watch the Dail committee meeting? Was she asked anything about the agreed access?

It's still on. It only started at 5pm and was private at first.

KOR101 · 18-09-2018 06:04PM

The pieces on the board are moving around so fast, it's difficult to know whether this iteration will last very long.

fergus1001 · 18-09-2018 06:04PM

sign the damn thing and get this going before bexit causes all capital expenditure to be put on hold

westyIrl · 18-09-2018 06:24PM

Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: »

Looks like a deal was done with eir.

Surely that is the biggest obstacle passed and it can now proceed. Hopefully Eir will use the cash to bring their rural network infrastructure up to scratch, though it'll probably go on their urban roll-out instead.

Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: »

Nokia also listed as a partner so I assume they'll be using their FTTH products and not Huawei.

Interesting. Huawei usually seems to wipe the board on this stuff. Didn't even know Nokia was a player in this sphere.

fergus1001 wrote: »

sign the damn thing and get this going before bexit causes all capital expenditure to be put on hold

Completely agree. Build needs to be well underway by the time Brexit arrives.

It's now just a question of how long the Department decides "the coming weeks" will last before they can announce a "winner". A good day on the face of it.

Jim

Marlow · 18-09-2018 06:34PM

KOR101 wrote: »

The pieces on the board are moving around so fast, it's difficult to know whether this iteration will last very long.

It's like Eir retails pricing changes. They might have got some pointers there

/M

tsue921i8wljb3 · 18-09-2018 06:41PM

Can't wait for all the Denis O'Brien conspiracy theories to start now that Actavo have been mentioned as part of the tender.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 18-09-2018 06:45PM

KOR101 wrote: »

Did anyone watch the Dail committee meeting? Was she asked anything about the agreed access?

Eh no deal done apparently...

https://twitter.com/irelandoffline/status/1042104059958906882

KOR101 · 18-09-2018 07:01PM

Naughton sounds so confident, the €20 must just be an accepted fact.

ED E · 18-09-2018 07:05PM

@irelandoffline

Last 10%-15% of NBP (54k - 81k of premises) will be too expensive for FTTH/P says Eircom CEO.

At least somebody is talking realistically.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 18-09-2018 07:06PM

ED E wrote: »

At least somebody is talking realistically.

She has always stated that but it is not really her place to make such statements.

ED E · 18-09-2018 07:06PM

Maybe so but Naughten keeps saying "Every" when that's an out and out lie.

westyIrl · 18-09-2018 07:24PM

ED E wrote: »

Quote:
@irelandoffline

Last 10%-15% of NBP (54k - 81k of premises) will be too expensive for FTTH/P says Eircom CEO.

At least somebody is talking realistically.At least somebody is talking realistically.

Would anyone have a rough figure/idea for the number of current premises under USO that are served by non-PTSN copper service? Would that be a fair comparator?

Also does Nokia manufacture/supply GPON equipment or just cellular/radio? Otherwise it's an indication of solutions towards the latter for these extra-rural premises.

Jim

KOR101 · 18-09-2018 07:25PM

ED E wrote: »

This will end in tears...

Thoughts now?

tsue921i8wljb3 · 18-09-2018 07:29PM

westyIrl wrote: »

Also does Nokia manufacture/supply GPON equipment or just cellular? Otherwise it's an indication of solutions towards the latter for these extra-rural premises.

Jim

Yes!

https://networks.nokia.com/portfolio/ftth

westyIrl · 18-09-2018 07:31PM

Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: »

Yes!

https://networks.nokia.com/portfolio/ftth

Thanks Navi. Great news for me and my ilk!

Jim

timbel · 18-09-2018 07:35PM

Nokia took over ALU years back I believe. Not sure if they had their own kit or just use the ALU kit rebadged.

Marlow · 18-09-2018 07:36PM

Nokia has always dabled in more than just mobile technology.

For example high end enterprise firewall systems (Nokia IP series, using Checkpoint) and routers.

But also copper and fibre plant.

The same as Ericsson. Or Siemens.

/M

NBP: National Broadband Plan Announced

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