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NBP: National Broadband Plan Announced

ED E

They've published!

The government has published a new map outlining in detail 700,000 rural homes and businesses which will be connected to state-subsidised broadband of at least 30 megabits per second (Mbs) from 2016.

http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/news/revealed-700000-homes-and-businesses-to-get-subsidised-fast-broadband-in-new-plan-30769126.html

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wexfordman2

The Cush wrote: »

Not quite yet

https://twitter.com/willgoodbody/status/1042070229264871425

Of ffs!!!

rodge123

Mahony0509 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/willgoodbody/status/1042069518930075649?s=21

Done deal.

Little bit concerning that it’s only received and not accepted!

Hopefully goverment just pay up and opposition don’t play political football with it around costs!

irishfeen

rodge123 wrote: »

Little bit concerning that it’s only received and not accepted!

Hopefully goverment just pay up and opposition don’t play political football with it around costs!

Just procedure I would assume, absolutely no way that the government won’t accept the tender eventually, too much political colateral damage at risk.

rodge123

irishfeen wrote: »

Just procedure I would assume, absolutely no way that the government won’t accept the tender eventually, too much political colateral damage at risk.

Hopefully and hopefully they haven’t brought a certain wireless operator onboard!

jgbyr

https://www.rte.ie/news/technology/2018/0918/994579-broadband/

tsue921i8wljb3

The statement also confirms that the company will have long-term access to open Eir's 1.2 million rural pole infrastructure, as well as their duct network.

Looks like a deal was done with eir.

Nokia also listed as a partner so I assume they'll be using their FTTH products and not Huawei.

fergus1001

"Come on Denis"

tsue921i8wljb3

There also seems to have been changes to the consortium make up with Granahan McCourt now leading the partnership. enet are now listed as a partner. IIF are no longer listed. I wonder were there state-aid implications that led to the changes?

KOR101

“Much has been said about the 30Mbps target set by the NBP, but the network we intend to build is a gigabit network, capable of delivering 1,000Mbps,” Peter Hendrick, National Broadband Ireland’s bid director said.

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/a-landmark-day-for-rural-broadband-404639

KOR101

Did anyone watch the Dail committee meeting? Was she asked anything about the agreed access?

KOR101

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/construction/denis-o-brien-in-consortium-bidding-for-national-broadband-plan-1.3633508

Johnboy1951

I wondered if eir were almost forced into making a deal by commercial decisions.
They must have been worried that Siro could easily decide to move again if the NBP failed this time, as Siro would have gained great experience by the time it mattered ..... both commercially and technically.

A new NBP just might be in Siro's favour.

ednwireland

where do i sign ?

tsue921i8wljb3

KOR101 wrote: »

Did anyone watch the Dail committee meeting? Was she asked anything about the agreed access?

It's still on. It only started at 5pm and was private at first.

KOR101

The pieces on the board are moving around so fast, it's difficult to know whether this iteration will last very long.

fergus1001

sign the damn thing and get this going before bexit causes all capital expenditure to be put on hold

westyIrl

Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: »

Looks like a deal was done with eir.

Surely that is the biggest obstacle passed and it can now proceed. Hopefully Eir will use the cash to bring their rural network infrastructure up to scratch, though it'll probably go on their urban roll-out instead.

Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: »

Nokia also listed as a partner so I assume they'll be using their FTTH products and not Huawei.

Interesting. Huawei usually seems to wipe the board on this stuff. Didn't even know Nokia was a player in this sphere.

fergus1001 wrote: »

sign the damn thing and get this going before bexit causes all capital expenditure to be put on hold

Completely agree. Build needs to be well underway by the time Brexit arrives.

It's now just a question of how long the Department decides "the coming weeks" will last before they can announce a "winner". A good day on the face of it.

Jim

Marlow

KOR101 wrote: »

The pieces on the board are moving around so fast, it's difficult to know whether this iteration will last very long.

It's like Eir retails pricing changes. They might have got some pointers there

tsue921i8wljb3

Can't wait for all the Denis O'Brien conspiracy theories to start now that Actavo have been mentioned as part of the tender.

tsue921i8wljb3

KOR101 wrote: »

Did anyone watch the Dail committee meeting? Was she asked anything about the agreed access?

Eh no deal done apparently...

https://twitter.com/irelandoffline/status/1042104059958906882

KOR101

Naughton sounds so confident, the €20 must just be an accepted fact.

ED E

@irelandoffline

Last 10%-15% of NBP (54k - 81k of premises) will be too expensive for FTTH/P says Eircom CEO.

At least somebody is talking realistically.

tsue921i8wljb3

ED E wrote: »

At least somebody is talking realistically.

She has always stated that but it is not really her place to make such statements.

ED E

Maybe so but Naughten keeps saying "Every" when that's an out and out lie.

westyIrl

ED E wrote: »

Quote:
@irelandoffline

Last 10%-15% of NBP (54k - 81k of premises) will be too expensive for FTTH/P says Eircom CEO.

At least somebody is talking realistically.At least somebody is talking realistically.

Would anyone have a rough figure/idea for the number of current premises under USO that are served by non-PTSN copper service? Would that be a fair comparator?

Also does Nokia manufacture/supply GPON equipment or just cellular/radio? Otherwise it's an indication of solutions towards the latter for these extra-rural premises.

Jim

KOR101

ED E wrote: »

This will end in tears...

Thoughts now?

tsue921i8wljb3

westyIrl wrote: »

Also does Nokia manufacture/supply GPON equipment or just cellular? Otherwise it's an indication of solutions towards the latter for these extra-rural premises.

Jim

Yes!

https://networks.nokia.com/portfolio/ftth

westyIrl

Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: »

Yes!

https://networks.nokia.com/portfolio/ftth

Thanks Navi. Great news for me and my ilk!

Jim

timbel

Nokia took over ALU years back I believe. Not sure if they had their own kit or just use the ALU kit rebadged.

Marlow

Nokia has always dabled in more than just mobile technology.

For example high end enterprise firewall systems (Nokia IP series, using Checkpoint) and routers.

But also copper and fibre plant.

The same as Ericsson. Or Siemens.

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