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TooOldBoots · 11-09-2018 04:34PM

Weanlen sale Ennis Mart Today, desperate bad trade for all. I saw Wealens that would have easily made €1000 last year struggle to make €800

Sample prices

Heifers < 6 months

200kg CHX €420
240kg LMX €430
215kg AAX very nice quality no bid, went as low as €200

Bulls averaged < €500

1 great CH 240kg €725

Heifers > 6 months
270kg CHX €465
260kg CHX €535
350kg LMX €660

Many unsold but average was €2/kg

Bulls > 6 months

360kg BBX €850
420kg LMX €855
300kg CH €720

Again many bulls unsold, you had no business trying to sell Weanlens not making 350kg and good quality.
Anything with a touch of dairy in them nobody wanted

patsy_mccabe · 11-09-2018 04:51PM

Fook. I thought they were only back around €100 on average.

Danzy · 11-09-2018 04:51PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I know in Clare, guys don't like buying Limerick cattle. They'd consider them too soft, coming off good land and all that.

God be with the days when that would have invited a lot of comments about the hurling team.

TITANIUM. · 11-09-2018 05:16PM

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Weanlen sale Ennis Mart Today, desperate bad trade for all. I saw Wealens that would have easily made €1000 last year struggle to make €800

Sample prices

Heifers < 6 months

200kg CHX €420
240kg LMX €430
215kg AAX very nice quality no bid, went as low as €200

Bulls averaged < €500

1 great CH 240kg €725

Heifers > 6 months
270kg CHX €465
260kg CHX €535
350kg LMX €660

Many unsold but average was €2/kg

Bulls > 6 months

360kg BBX €850
420kg LMX €855
300kg CH €720

Again many bulls unsold, you had no business trying to sell Weanlens not making 350kg and good quality.
Anything with a touch of dairy in them nobody wanted

You can hit those kinda exceptional days in marts, both on a positive and negative note. That was obviously the later but clearly there were feck all serious buyers there. So everyone spends the day going through the motions with any lad with sense bringing them home.

jaymla627 · 11-09-2018 05:30PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

You can hit those kinda exceptional days in marts, both on a positive and negative note. That was obviously the later but clearly there were feck all serious buyers there. So everyone spends the day going through the motions with any lad with sense bringing them home.

If you haven’t got the feed to winter them though you need to shift them, a dealer beside us who would buy the world of weanlings year in year out for the same customers has lads who would be taking 50 odd animals a year for the winter ringing him to say their leaving the sheds empty and selling the silage if they had any to dairy men....
You’d expect the early sales to be good, not the opposite when the glut of weanlings come in late october/early November price will in all likelyhood crash further if the buyers aren’t their for them

patsy_mccabe · 11-09-2018 05:34PM

You'd ecpect exporters to get very excited when prices drop that much.

kk.man · 11-09-2018 05:54PM

Dozer1 wrote: »

Kilmallock is a buyers mart no question about it,
Not a place to bring good continental stock if you want to get paid well for them. really a home of the AA/HE/FR cross cattle.

I'd bring plainer cattle there and they do ok but in general if you have good stock you'd want to leave the county unfortunately

I know a dealer from the SE buys there every week (double trailer) and floggs them up my way in a short turnaround.
Yes must be a dealers mart.

Bass Reeves · 11-09-2018 06:03PM

kk.man wrote: »

I know a dealer from the SE buys there every week (double trailer) and floggs them up my way in a short turnaround.
Yes must be a dealers mart.

Not really, HEX, AAX and Friesian cattle usually sell very well there. Cattle over 400 kgs are usually unbuyable there. There is always a good few farmers buyers present. However as Dozer said not a great sucker mart for weanlings suckler bullocks over 450kgs are usually hard buying

Welding Rod · 11-09-2018 07:05PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

If you haven’t got the feed to winter them though you need to shift them, a dealer beside us who would buy the world of weanlings year in year out for the same customers has lads who would be taking 50 odd animals a year for the winter ringing him to say their leaving the sheds empty and selling the silage if they had any to dairy men....
You’d expect the early sales to be good, not the opposite when the glut of weanlings come in late october/early November price will in all likelyhood crash further if the buyers aren’t their for them

So if the farmers who usually buy weanlings don’t buy, and sell their bales instead, there will probably be plenty bales and hence sensible priced for the bales for the farmer who has to hold on to his weanlings.
Come next spring the fellas who kept empty sheds, will have to compete hard for stock for grass.......
What goes around comes around as they say.

Market forces .. eh!!!

Gman1987 · 11-09-2018 07:35PM

Have a few continental bulls and heifers to sell, What mart in the midlands would be best to head for? I'm offaly based but was thinking of Mountrath on a Thursday night but haven't had time to go up that way yet to see what the trade is like. The bulls would be 475kg to 550kg, heifers would be 450kg to 500kg. year and a halfs

Never wrestle with pigs · 11-09-2018 07:47PM

Ger1987 wrote: »

Have a few continental bulls and heifers to sell, What mart in the midlands would be best to head for? I'm offaly based but was thinking of Mountrath on a Thursday night but haven't had time to go up that way yet to see what the trade is like. The bulls would be 475kg to 550kg, heifers would be 450kg to 500kg. year and a halfs

Mountrath hands down. Hold until the EU night once a month usually brings a good bit more of a stirr around the place. You'd want to be there early. No harm to book them in either as if you have the right heifers lads from Sligo and Donegal come down for them. You'd want to have a bit of feed in them and have them done nice and you'll get payed there.

Gman1987 · 11-09-2018 08:13PM

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Mountrath hands down. Hold until the EU night once a month usually brings a good bit more of a stirr around the place. You'd want to be there early. No harm to book them in either as if you have the right heifers lads from Sligo and Donegal come down for them. You'd want to have a bit of feed in them and have them done nice and you'll get payed there.

Thanks for the quick reply, just looking at journal here and it says that the EU sale is on the 13th and 27th of September and 11th, 18th, 25th October and biweekly after that. Sale time starts at 6:30pm. Any idea what time you would need to arrive their with cattle?

Muckit · 11-09-2018 08:20PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

You'd ecpect exporters to get very excited when prices drop that much.

Yes If the markets are there on the other end

Never wrestle with pigs · 11-09-2018 08:40PM

Ger1987 wrote: »

Thanks for the quick reply, just looking at journal here and it says that the EU sale is on the 13th and 27th of September and 11th, 18th, 25th October and biweekly after that. Sale time starts at 6:30pm. Any idea what time you would need to arrive their with cattle?

Forgot that it's biweekly from now. Ring the mart a few days earlier if your going with a few. When it gets mad busy there you'd want to be there by 1 or two. Don't think it's that mad yet so I'd say around 5. Best to ring them in case there is allot booked in.

Danzy · 11-09-2018 09:00PM

Welding Rod wrote: »

So if the farmers who usually buy weanlings don’t buy, and sell their bales instead, there will probably be plenty bales and hence sensible priced for the bales for the farmer who has to hold on to his weanlings.
Come next spring the fellas who kept empty sheds, will have to compete hard for stock for grass.......
What goes around comes around as they say.

Market forces .. eh!!!

Those bales will be seen in Milk bottles.

patsy_mccabe · 11-09-2018 09:15PM

Irish Cattle Exports
Interesting reading;
https://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/livecattleexports.aspx

Jan to 1st Sept

To UK
2017 - 22,327 head
2018 - 14,772 ............down 33.8%

To Europe
2017 - 113,661
2018 - 159,340 ............up 40.2%

Any rise again in Sterling (from a fixed Brexit) will tilt things back to more UK exports again.

kk.man · 11-09-2018 10:19PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

kk.man wrote: »

I know a dealer from the SE buys there every week (double trailer) and floggs them up my way in a short turnaround.
Yes must be a dealers mart.

Not really, HEX, AAX and Friesian cattle usually sell very well there. Cattle over 400 kgs are usually unbuyable there. There is always a good few farmers buyers present. However as Dozer said not a great sucker mart for weanlings suckler bullocks over 450kgs are usually hard buying

That's what he brings out of there, suckler stock.

adne · 12-09-2018 07:01AM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Irish Cattle Exports
Interesting reading;
https://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/livecattleexports.aspx

Jan to 1st Sept

To UK
2017 - 22,327 head
2018 - 14,772 ............down 33.8%

To Europe
2017 - 113,661
2018 - 159,340 ............up 40.2%

Any rise again in Sterling (from a fixed Brexit) will tilt things back to more UK exports again.

Substantially more exports in 2018 overall

Reggie. · 12-09-2018 07:06AM

adne wrote: »

Substantially more exports in 2018 overall

A good bit more. England not the major destination for exports it seems

charolais0153 · 12-09-2018 07:15AM

Reggie. wrote: »

A good bit more. England not the major destination for exports it seems

UK imports a lot of beef but not a lot of cattle

patsy_mccabe · 12-09-2018 08:16AM

charolais0153 wrote: »

UK imports a lot of beef but not a lot of cattle

Ya, live exports shown only and most of that to the UK is acrosss the border to Northern Ireland.
Anyone know what Belgium are taking, up from 5k to 13k? Good quality BB's maybe?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 12-09-2018 09:10AM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Ya, live exports shown only and most of that to the UK is acrosss the border to Northern Ireland.
Anyone know what Belgium are taking, up from 5k to 13k? Good quality BB's maybe?

Used take a lot of calves for veal but don't know if they still do.

Bass Reeves · 12-09-2018 09:21AM

charolais0153 wrote: »

UK imports a lot of beef but not a lot of cattle

Irish processor who also have factory in the UK have that closed. They have a virtual ban on cattle being slaughtered in either counry from the other country.

Bass Reeves · 12-09-2018 09:42AM

Welding Rod wrote: »

So if the farmers who usually buy weanlings don’t buy, and sell their bales instead, there will probably be plenty bales and hence sensible priced for the bales for the farmer who has to hold on to his weanlings.
Come next spring the fellas who kept empty sheds, will have to compete hard for stock for grass.......
What goes around comes around as they say.

Market forces .. eh!!!

There are 2-3 issue's here that have been well flagged by lads. First most lads from finishing area's have only 50-60% of there normal silage requirement. Most are after taking a hammering from killing cattle this year with weights and grades well back and cattle being killed later in the year at a lower price or earlier in the year at lower weights. Dairy men are actively sourcing silage and paying nearly double what they were paying previous years. A lot of lads made hay as well which sells better than silage but which if you were feeding to stores you would need to top up with ration.

The spring price may not be as strong as previous years especially for yearlings. Lads may reduce numbers so as to build up silage reserves ( I am thinking of doing that myself). While export numbers are up calves on the ground last spring were up 30K on the previous year. Store numbers are very strong as well and lads are unwilling to finish this winter so there may be plenty available next spring if lads are capable of overwintering them.

This may not be over until late next year or early 2020

Base price · 12-09-2018 10:22AM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Used take a lot of calves for veal but don't know if they still do.

Where they went too - https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/where-did-all-the-calves-that-were-exported-this-year-go/
There was a reduction in calf exports to Belgium due to ibr for a couple of years.

Welding Rod · 12-09-2018 10:53AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

There are 2-3 issue's here that have been well flagged by lads. First most lads from finishing area's have only 50-60% of there normal silage requirement. Most are after taking a hammering from killing cattle this year with weights and grades well back and cattle being killed later in the year at a lower price or earlier in the year at lower weights. Dairy men are actively sourcing silage and paying nearly double what they were paying previous years. A lot of lads made hay as well which sells better than silage but which if you were feeding to stores you would need to top up with ration.

The spring price may not be as strong as previous years especially for yearlings. Lads may reduce numbers so as to build up silage reserves ( I am thinking of doing that myself). While export numbers are up calves on the ground last spring were up 30K on the previous year. Store numbers are very strong as well and lads are unwilling to finish this winter so there may be plenty available next spring if lads are capable of overwintering them.

This may not be over until late next year or early 2020

Nothing like a good flush of spring grass to send farmers common sense straight into the ring!!!!

FeirmeoirtTed · 13-09-2018 09:02PM

Anybody got a price for white head weanlings bulls around 150kg and angus?

Who2 · 13-09-2018 09:07PM

FeirmeoirtTed wrote: »

Anybody got a price for white head weanlings bulls around 150kg and angus?

200-250 going by what I’m hearing.

Butcher Boy · 13-09-2018 09:11PM

FeirmeoirtTed wrote: »

Anybody got a price for white head weanlings bulls around 150kg and angus?

150 to 170 akg,

Lady Haywire · 17-09-2018 07:50PM

Lot of culls at Carrigallen tonight. Lock of dairy bred angus heifers unsold (700ish at 1.5/2yr olds) before i put my two lassies in.
Ch- May 17- 380kg- 1k (culard with the slight hop as stifle out as a calf)
Pb Lm- June 17- 370kg- 860- was weaned at 5 months.

Didn't get much feeding at all, no meal since they went out anyway so happy enough.

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