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Tumosan OK for small farm

  • 16-09-2018 04:57PM
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    I've a small farm which I work in the evening, have an old mf but it's sort of buggered.
    Saw a tumosan 4wd with loader for little along with 20 k.

    Are they mechanically OK despite poor image?

    Its four years old.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    I've a small farm which I work in the evening, have an old mf but it's sort of buggered.
    Saw a tumosan 4wd with loader for little along with 20 k.

    Are they mechanically OK despite poor image?

    Its four years old.

    Far better tractors out there for 20k that will still value near your 20k in a few years. Honestly that won't be worth 5k in a few years.


  • Site Banned Posts: 272 ✭✭Loves_lorries


    Far better tractors out there for 20k that will still value near your 20k in a few years. Honestly that won't be worth 5k in a few years.

    Are there any tumosans for 5k which are ten years old?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,994 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Are there any tumosans for 5k which are ten years old?

    People are very quick to write them off. What's happened with car brands over the last ten years could just as well happen with tractors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    Are there any tumosans for 5k which are ten years old?

    No because they are in the scrap yard


  • Site Banned Posts: 272 ✭✭Loves_lorries


    No because they are in the scrap yard

    Seriously, is it that bad?

    Zetor an option but a 2014 4wd 90hp with loader be close on 35 k at least.a new Holland or jd from 2014 over 50k


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,384 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    People were saying that about Kubotas a few years back. Look at them now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,469 ✭✭✭emaherx


    People were saing that about Kubotas a few years back. Look at them now.

    Most bad reviews come from people with little to no experience of them.

    Mechanical tractor based on old Fiat designs is not a bad thing. They will depreciate quickly though but probably not an issue as on most farms they end up on they will be worked lightly but neglected over a very long period of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,950 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Because something is “based on” an older good design doesn’t mean much without knowing how it’s manufactured.

    It could just closely resemble a Fiat tractor but not have the quality of materials or standards of production and assembly which is what really matters.


  • Site Banned Posts: 272 ✭✭Loves_lorries


    People were saying that about Kubotas a few years back. Look at them now.

    Kubota always had a name for quality, did they not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    People were saying that about Kubotas a few years back. Look at them now.

    Difference between Japanese and the Turks? (Tumosan from there?) tho. Recently kubota have upped there game also. Making a big push for at tractor market I think


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Tumosan are meant to be a noisy and bumpy tractor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    Seriously, is it that bad?

    Zetor an option but a 2014 4wd 90hp with loader be close on 35 k at least.a new Holland or jd from 2014 over 50k

    They were always a good work horse. I don't know much about the newer ones. They would hold value way better than the tumosan. Think about if you need to sell it in a few years. If you're not in it every day all day you wouldn't mind driving one of the classic tractors. Any of the older massy's or John Deeres, Fiat's, case's your going to get your money back if needs be. Kubota always made good tractors and will be one of the biggest brands in agriculture in years to come imo.

    You could be waiting weeks for a part for the tumosan, and the Turks build quality isn't fantastic. You could cut your hands on the finish on the mudguards of the older ones. What does that say about the rest of it if they can't be arsed to finish it right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,384 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Difference between Japanese and the Turks? (Tumosan from there?) tho. Recently kubota have upped there game also. Making a big push for at tractor market I think

    I heard a new distributor took over here and in the UK. First thing they did was up their prices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,469 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Tumosan are meant to be a noisy and bumpy tractor.

    Compared to most modern machines yes, but they do have to meet current noise regulations so probably still better than most of the vintage/classic machines currently running many farms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,469 ✭✭✭emaherx


    _Brian wrote: »
    Because something is “based on” an older good design doesn’t mean much without knowing how it’s manufactured.

    It could just closely resemble a Fiat tractor but not have the quality of materials or standards of production and assembly which is what really matters.

    This is completely true, but they more than resemble the Fiats as they are offering spare parts for Fiat owners also. As for quality of manufacturing, it's hard to find a bad review of these anywhere other than poor resale value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭adne




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    adne wrote:
    What are the thoughts on this


    Have the same at home. Only gripe is that the tractor is light on the back end, if your lifting bales from a fusion or a wettish bale you'll need a weight for the back of it.

    We bought ours in 2014 for the same money as that and touch wood has been no major issues so far. Only thing I had to get was a relay to the solenoid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭kelslat


    I bought a tumosan 8095 about a year ago now. I find it a good solid tractor. It is very basic and has a manual pto and 4wd leaver. Parts are ment to be easily got for them. There's a a good few dealers around the country. The last tractor I had gave a lot of electrical trouble error codes electric lift trouble etc... That's why I opted for this one. I got a rossmore loader with it and it has a dromone style pick up hitch.


  • Site Banned Posts: 272 ✭✭Loves_lorries


    kelslat wrote: »
    I bought a tumosan 8095 about a year ago now. I find it a good solid tractor. It is very basic and has a manual pto and 4wd leaver. Parts are ment to be easily got for them. There's a a good few dealers around the country. The last tractor I had gave a lot of electrical trouble error codes electric lift trouble etc... That's why I opted for this one. I got a rossmore loader with it and it has a dromone style pick up hitch.

    Is it comfortable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    adne wrote: »

    Who else would question those hours?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,950 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Who else would question those hours?

    I don’t know him personally but he’s not far from home, wouldn’t have that reputation at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭kelslat


    Is it comfortable?
    It's ok! I might only be in it for a hour or two each day. Even at that I would be in and out of it a bit. It's no John Deere and the cab is very basic. As long as everything stays working including the radio and heater I will be happy.


  • Site Banned Posts: 272 ✭✭Loves_lorries


    _Brian wrote: »
    I don’t know him personally but he’s not far from home, wouldn’t have that reputation at all.

    Reputation is good, yes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭Bazzer007


    Hey Op! Tumosan tractors are basic but get the job done without the need for any fancy electronics. In my opinion Kubota are building a really strong brand base in Ireland and more than likely will hold their value compared to other newish tractors to the market like Tumosan. I own a Kubota RTV and find it easy to maintain and I like the brand.

    I've never driven a Kubota tractor but the old man went to look at one with a loader and he liked it. Salesman said it was traded in because she was a 'bit giddy' when the loader was carrying a heavy load. Basically you might need to put a weight on the back or silage pusher might be good enough. The ME9000 looks very clean although the new models look nicer but that wouldn't bother most fellas.

    If it was me I'd buy this instead.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/2002-john-deere-6110-se/19343003

    Have an earlier model without a loader and find the cab and quad transmission a dream. In saying that I'd like to buy a Kutoba down the line.


  • Site Banned Posts: 272 ✭✭Loves_lorries


    Bazzer007 wrote: »
    Hey Op! Tumosan tractors are basic but get the job done without the need for any fancy electronics. In my opinion Kubota are building a really strong brand base in Ireland and more than likely will hold their value compared to other newish tractors to the market like Tumosan. I own a Kubota RTV and find it easy to maintain and I like the brand.

    I've never driven a Kubota tractor but the old man went to look at one with a loader and he liked it. Salesman said it was traded in because she was a 'bit giddy' when the loader was carrying a heavy load. Basically you might need to put a weight on the back or silage pusher might be good enough. The ME9000 looks very clean although the new models look nicer but that wouldn't bother most fellas.

    If it was me I'd buy this instead.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/2002-john-deere-6110-se/19343003

    Have an earlier model without a loader and find the cab and quad transmission a dream. In saying that I'd like to buy a Kutoba down the line.

    I've no doubt kubota are good but nothing cheap about them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭sob1467


    We also bought a Tumosan about fifteen years ago. It was an 02 model, so the first buyer would have beared the brunt of the depreciation. For the money that was paid its done well enough.

    A few things have went on it, the lift being the main thing. Never really had that much of a problem with the availability or price of the parts.

    The machine hasn't done a lot of heavy work here. Main tasks would be rolling, topping, putting in silage off the pit, moving bales, that sort of work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,209 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    adne wrote: »

    Price is 19750+ vat or a bit with 24K. it would be overpriced at that. Looks a straight tractor but hours clock numbers are out of line. Lots of tractors to be got for 25k.

    Op on the Tumosan If it had taken a bit more depreciation it would be worth a gamble. However lads that think that tractors that are premium brand or just below premium brand will not continue to decline in value are a bit deluded. Pre 00 tractors in the sub 100HP range are starting to appear below 20K even with a loader.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭adne


    Who else would question those hours?

    1st thing that came to my mind esp with clock not aligning


  • Site Banned Posts: 272 ✭✭Loves_lorries


    Think the hattat are nicer but they don't seem to have sold well at all even compared to the tumosan. Lot less dealers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    Most tumosans wouldn't have had hard lives, they would be mainly used for regular stockman work, such as topping, moving bales, turning hay and spreading fertilisers. That being said, if i had 20k i wouldn't buy one, as it will deprecate a lot more. If look at massey, Deere or new Holland, as they hold their value


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