New Build For First Time PC Owner

TitianGerm · 14-09-2018 08:46PM #1

1. What is your budget? [€700]

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? [Accounts Production & Data Entry to work from home when possible, Light Gaming - Overwatch, maybe a few RTS games]

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? [Yes]

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? [No]

5. Do you need a monitor? [Yes - But I can use my TV for the moment if its better to spend the money on other parts for the moment]

5a. If yes, what size do you need. [N/A]

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? [See above]

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? [Have mouse, keyboard and Astro A50s]

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? [Don't know]

8. How can you pay? [Paypal/Credit Card/Cash]

9. When are you purchasing? [No rush]

10. If you need help building it, where are you based? [Wexford. Have someone to help put it all together]

I won't be doing much gaming bar the odd FPS and maybe a few of the older RTS games.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

TitianGerm · 15-09-2018 10:22AM

TitianGerm wrote: »

1. What is your budget? [€700]

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? [Accounts Production & Data Entry to work from home when possible, Light Gaming - Overwatch, maybe a few RTS games]

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? [Yes]

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? [No]

5. Do you need a monitor? [Yes - But I can use my TV for the moment if its better to spend the money on other parts for the moment]

5a. If yes, what size do you need. [N/A]

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? [See above]

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? [Have mouse, keyboard and Astro A50s]

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? [Don't know]

8. How can you pay? [Paypal/Credit Card/Cash]

9. When are you purchasing? [No rush]

10. If you need help building it, where are you based? [Wexford. Have someone to help put it all together]

I won't be doing much gaming bar the odd FPS and maybe a few of the older RTS games.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Any thoughts on this?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Gnf629

and a 1050Ti and power supply from here

https://eu.evga.com/products/featured-bundles.aspx

K.O.Kiki · 15-09-2018 03:03PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£101.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£68.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£74.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£78.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card (£222.00)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.79 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For £0.00)
Total: £589.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-15 15:03 BST+0100

Using 249.99 eur EVGA bundle deal.
Enough in the budget to upgrade to Ryzen 5-1600 if you want, add a nice tower cooler or save for a new monitor.

*edit*:
Actually just realised you're using this system for work more than gaming.
Drop the GPU down & get a monitor.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£101.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£68.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£74.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£78.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card (£147.00)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.79 @ Aria PC)
Monitor: BenQ - GW2470ML 23.8" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (£90.50 @ Amazon UK)
Other: EVGA 600 BR, 80+ BRONZE 600W, 3 Year Warranty, Power Supply 100-BR-0600-K3 (UK) (£0.00)
Total: £605.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-15 15:12 BST+0100

TitianGerm · 15-09-2018 03:07PM

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£101.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£68.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£74.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£78.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card (£222.00)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.79 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For £0.00)
Total: £589.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-15 15:03 BST+0100

Using 249.99 eur EVGA bundle deal.
Enough in the budget to upgrade to Ryzen 5-1600 if you want, add a nice tower cooler or save for a new monitor.

Thanks for that K.O.Kiki.

Would you think I'd need the 1060 over the 1050ti for the small amount of gaming I'd be doing or is it just a better investment?

Could order the graphics card tomorrow evening before that offer expires and add the other bits over the next few weeks.

Western Digital M2 SATA is 48% off on Amazon at the minute as well so I think I could buy the 120GB and install the OS on it?

https://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/Western-Digital-WDS240G2G0B-Internal-Green/product/B078WYS5K6

K.O.Kiki · 15-09-2018 03:12PM

TitianGerm wrote: »

Thanks for that K.O.Kiki.

Would you think I'd need the 1060 over the 1050ti for the small amount of gaming I'd be doing or is it just a better investment?

See edit above.

TitianGerm · 15-09-2018 03:22PM

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

See edit above.

Thanks again. I just edited my own post above as well.

I don't mind getting the 1060 if it'll last me longer if that makes sense?

I think I might be able to borrow a monitor from work until I get sorted.

TerrorFirmer · 15-09-2018 04:26PM

It's a small budget including a monitor, and certain types of games are pretty horrible to try and play on a TV with keyboard/mouse (though I've a few friends do just that).

For RTS games and Overwatch, a 1050Ti is more than fine, Overwatch for example definitely runs at 1080p ultra 60fps.

A GTX1060 3GB would be faster naturally (and that's a great EVGA deal), though the lower vram/core speed than the 6GB model is a pain - could also look into RX580 4 or 8GB models if in that ballpark though again the value will be far worse compared to EVGA promo.

KO's build looks good, can't fault it - possible upgrades to max the budget are either upping to the EVGA GTX1060 6GB deal, or getting the Ryzen 1600 instead of 1400, though there's no wrong answers there really.

TitianGerm · 15-09-2018 04:37PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

It's a small budget including a monitor, and certain types of games are pretty horrible to try and play on a TV with keyboard/mouse (though I've a few friends do just that).

For RTS games and Overwatch, a 1050Ti is more than fine, Overwatch for example definitely runs at 1080p ultra 60fps.

A GTX1060 3GB would be faster naturally (and that's a great EVGA deal), though the lower vram/core speed than the 6GB model is a pain - could also look into RX580 4 or 8GB models if in that ballpark though again the value will be far worse compared to EVGA promo.

KO's build looks good, can't fault it - possible upgrades to max the budget are either upping to the EVGA GTX1060 6GB deal, or getting the Ryzen 1600 instead of 1400, though there's no wrong answers there really.

Thanks Terror. The monitor doesn't have to be included in the €700 because I can probably borrow one for a while until I get one myself.

If it's something that will last a little longer then I can adjust my budget a small bit (10-15%).

K.O.Kiki · 15-09-2018 06:46PM

If you can go up 10% in budget & leave out monitor, you can definitely get a superbly future-proofed machine.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£134.39 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£26.39 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£68.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£74.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£78.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card (£268.00)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.79 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For £0.00)
Total: £694.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-15 18:41 BST+0100

1060 6Gb is consistently 50-60% faster than 1050 Ti and would serve you well for gaming at 1080 or even 1440p.

TitianGerm · 15-09-2018 06:50PM

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

If you can go up 10% in budget & leave out monitor, you can definitely get a superbly future-proofed machine.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£134.39 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£26.39 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£68.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£74.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£78.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card (£268.00)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.79 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For £0.00)
Total: £694.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-15 18:41 BST+0100

1060 6Gb is consistently 50-60% faster than 1050 Ti and would serve you well for gaming at 1080 or even 1440p.

Thanks again Kiki. Are you including the 1060 from the link I posted earlier where I get the free power supply?

K.O.Kiki · 15-09-2018 07:17PM

TitianGerm wrote: »

Thanks again Kiki. Are you including the 1060 from the link I posted earlier where I get the free power supply?

Yup. Just make sure you get the 299,99 bundle.

These bundle deals are making build recommendations easy this month

TitianGerm · 15-09-2018 07:22PM

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Yup. Just make sure you get the 299,99 bundle.

These bundle deals are making build recommendations easy this month

Great. Going to Waterford tomorrow to see if PC world have one of these in stock (€700 less another 10%) and find out if the 1060 is 3 or 6. If they've none in stock I'll grab the 1060 bundle and add to it over the next few weeks.

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/lenovo-legion-y520-intel-core-i5-gtx-1060-gaming-pc-1-tb-hdd-10164515-pdt.html

K.O.Kiki · 15-09-2018 07:41PM

TitianGerm wrote: »

Great. Going to Waterford tomorrow to see if PC world have one of these in stock (€700 less another 10%) and find out if the 1060 is 3 or 6. If they've none in stock I'll grab the 1060 bundle and add to it over the next few weeks.

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/lenovo-legion-y520-intel-core-i5-gtx-1060-gaming-pc-1-tb-hdd-10164515-pdt.html

It's a 1060 3Gb.

TitianGerm · 15-09-2018 07:53PM

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

It's a 1060 3Gb.

I could not see that on the specs earlier :pac:

Probably leave that so and start buying parts straight away!!

K.O.Kiki · 15-09-2018 08:41PM

It's a good deal for 630 though.

TitianGerm · 15-09-2018 09:01PM

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

It's a good deal for 630 though.

But then I'd miss out on putting one together.... Or watching someone else put it together :pac:

TitianGerm · 16-09-2018 10:21AM

Back again :pac:

Would this be a worthwhile upgrade over the 1600 for an extra £20? It's £135 for the 1600.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-ryzen-7-eight-core-1700-3.70ghz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-39x-am.html?campaign=affiliate/tag

TerrorFirmer · 16-09-2018 11:09AM

For an extra 20 it can't hurt but it'll make zero difference really to games or general use, would only show benefits in heavy productivity tasks.

But for the sake of 20, and considering it comes with a LED-ring cooler (nice if you have a windowed case), I would say why not.

TitianGerm · 16-09-2018 11:25AM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

For an extra 20 it can't hurt but it'll make zero difference really to games or general use, would only show benefits in heavy productivity tasks.

But for the sake of 20, and considering it comes with a LED-ring cooler (nice if you have a windowed case), I would say why not.

Thanks Terror. Think I'll go for it when it's not much extra to upgrade.

TerrorFirmer · 16-09-2018 11:41AM

That PC in Currys is very good value for a shop-bought PC but the i5-7400 is very limiting in quite a few of the very latest games (and even some older very CPU punishing titles) due to being quad core/quad thread (Ryzen 1600 is 6/12, for example).

TitianGerm · 16-09-2018 12:37PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

That PC in Currys is very good value for a shop-bought PC but the i5-7400 is very limiting in quite a few of the very latest games (and even some older very CPU punishing titles) due to being quad core/quad thread (Ryzen 1600 is 6/12, for example).

I think the price was just making it more attractive. I'd say I'm 95% building the one posted above and order the 1060 bundle and Ryzen 1700 tonight. I'll add the other bits over the next month or so.

TitianGerm · 16-09-2018 07:01PM

And I'm €500 lighter but the most expensive parts are paid for!!

When does my glorious PC Master Race hair start to grow

K.O.Kiki · 16-09-2018 07:13PM

TitianGerm wrote: »

And I'm €500 lighter but the most expensive parts are paid for!!

When does my glorious PC Master Race hair start to grow

First you must worship at the altar of GabeN

latest?cb=20170627055835

TitianGerm · 19-09-2018 01:36PM

And my first part arrived today

19-09-2018 03:11PM

Looking forward to seeing the build when finished.

TitianGerm · 19-09-2018 03:13PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Looking forward to seeing the build when finished.

It'll be stuck together with some twine and chewing gum :pac:

Have to hold off on a few parts now because I'd to pay €250 to get my electric windows on the car fixed yesterday

TitianGerm · 21-09-2018 08:58PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

For an extra 20 it can't hurt but it'll make zero difference really to games or general use, would only show benefits in heavy productivity tasks.

But for the sake of 20, and considering it comes with a LED-ring cooler (nice if you have a windowed case), I would say why not.

Terror just to jump back in here. Do I need the Be Quiet if I got the cooler with the Ryzen? Or are they different fans for cooling different parts?

K.O.Kiki · 21-09-2018 09:17PM

TitianGerm wrote: »

Terror just to jump back in here. Do I need the Be Quiet if I got the cooler with the Ryzen? Or are they different fans for cooling different parts?

Both coolers are for the CPU, the Be Quiet is just better.

TitianGerm · 21-09-2018 09:19PM

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Both coolers are for the CPU, the Be Quiet is just better.

Ok I ordered the Be Quiet and Mobo earlier anyway but was just wondering.

The 1060 arrived today. DPD guy had thrown the package over my gate and left it there :mad:

TitianGerm · 23-09-2018 11:47AM

Just picked this up on Adverts for €70. It's spotless and not a scratch on it. Delighted with it

BArra · 23-09-2018 07:57PM

Looks like a steal, which cougar case is it?

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