The Donald is perhaps definitely kinda NOT coming to Ireland

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Question about the terms of these plea-deals:

Do the only benefit if the information is deemed accurate, or the information results in a prosecution, or no such terms?

I'm not 100%, but Manafort he has not only plead guilty but (as expected) agreed to cooperate 'fully and truthfully' with the investigation - https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/14/17860198/paul-manafort-plea-deal-robert-mueller

The guy leading the investigation also took down Enron, and did it by going for the wives of those responsible as the money in that case was effectively being siphoned through them. Manafort is 69 years old, was already found guilty in the other case a few weeks back on 8 separate counts so is likely going to be spending most if not all of his remaining years behind bars, and was going to jail anyway. So I have a feeling Mueller hit him where it hurt, right at home. Especially since texts between his daughters talking about Manafort's 'blood money' and involvement in political murders in the Ukraine came out in the open last year - http://uk.businessinsider.com/paul-manafort-daughter-text-messages-ukraine-2017-3?r=US&IR=T

Considering Manafort was running the show in terms of the campaign, pushed heavily for the fundamentalist nutjob to be put in as VP, organised the likes of secret meetings with Kremlin officials to exchange dirt on Trump's opponent in exchange for talking about sanctions ("secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy in order to deceive others" being the definition of collusion), and worked extremely closely with others who have since flipped like Trump's original initial choice of National Security Advisor (chief of security) Mike Flynn who got caught making dodgy and illegal phone calls to Kremlin officials which he lied about to the FBI (and which the same fundamentalist VP appears to have subsequently lied about having knowledge of), Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen, and probably even more importantly, the CFO of Trump's businesses for the last 40+ years Alan Weisselberg, on top of all the audio leaks, the op-ed in the NYT he has been losing his marbles over, and the book that came out the other day on him, I'd imagine old Donald is in no mood for travel as he knows things are catching up to him pretty quickly.

In a series of texts reviewed by Business Insider that appear to have been sent by Andrea to her sister, Jessica, in March 2015, Andrea said their father had "no moral or legal compass."

"Don't fool yourself," Andrea wrote to her sister, according to the texts. "That money we have is blood money."

"You know he has killed people in Ukraine? Knowingly," she continued, according to the reviewed texts.

Jelle1880 wrote: »

The official estimate is 2,975. So yeah, lower than 3000 but we all know he isn't being pedantic if he talks about how when he left there were something like 16 fatalities.

There were only 16 confirmed fatalities at time of his visit. Cannot link at the moment but it is in every article I have read about his visit

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Ouch. 46M in forfeitures. that has to hurt his pension.

In which case this investigation is now running at an almost $30mn profit, having cost $16.7mn as of June. Just one to remember when a Trump supporter predictably calls it a waste of money at some point in the near future - http://time.com/5298205/robert-mueller-russia-probe-cost-trump/.

And as always, something Trump tweeted came back to embarrass him in a short matter of weeks... "I feel very badly for Paul Manafort and his wonderful family. “Justice” took a 12 year old tax case, among other things, applied tremendous pressure on him and, unlike Michael Cohen, he refused to “break” - make up stories in order to get a “deal.” Such respect for a brave man!"

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1032256443985084417

FatherTed wrote: »

So you accept then that not one more person died in PR after that as a result of the hurricanes?

Where did I say that? I said that 16 were confirmed dead AT THE TIME OF HIS VISIT. A couple thousand more died after that. Very sad tragedy.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Sounds a bit like he's condoning tax evasion and what most politicians would see as massive theft from the US government.

Releasing tax returns is a private decision for a citizen. Trump not releasing them is his own personal business. There could be any number of reasons why he has refused.

Kidchameleon wrote: »

As I said, its written in the articles I have read. I am away until Tuesday and cannot link but please google some articles on the situation. The number 16 was the official death toll when the president visited the area. Not his word, the official word of the authoritys. Its easy to check that fact.

"As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000..."

He's implying that the numbers were artificially inflated or some such madness. Ignoring the resultant deaths and diminishing the disaster for his own ego is what he's engaging in...

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Why are you hounding me? What has it got to do with tax returns? No I have no reply to that particular post, and no I didnt miss it

Oh butter up snowflakes...noone is " hounding you"

Typical Trump mentality ....I'm the victim...I'm being hounnded

Does it not get boring writing the same words to every post.

All you'd have to do is read the post content and then you wouldnt look as ignorant as you do.
Denialism does not win.

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Does it not get boring writing the same words to every post.

All you'd have to do is read the post content and then you wouldnt look as ignorant as you do.
Denialism does not win.

Yes it does get boring, people posting things as fact when there is no evidence whatsoever.