The Frederick St protest and reaction

prinzeugen · 13-09-2018 01:16AM

20Cent wrote: »

Four of the people evicted were hospitalised due to injuries suffered during the eviction. Assault by masked men protected by the Gardai, a sinister thing to happen.

Wasters going to hospital for a cast when the wound only needs an Elastoplast. Propaganda.

No doubt there will be tons of videos on YouTube claiming the "Illuminati" are behind it. NWO cleansing and RT watching foilhats talking crap.

Any excuse for more wasters to shout "shame on you" and claim they were injured while resisting a lawful action to stop their unlawful actions.

Peaceful protest works both ways folks. If you did not force your way into someones private property, force would not be needed to remove you!

ChikiChiki · 13-09-2018 01:16AM

I'd say it's only a matter of time before the people of the country lose their collective **** with everything. Perhaps this is some sort of trigger but it will happen in the next decade unless the standard of government improve and they actually begin to fix broken systems across many areas.

This is not a war of classes. They have repeatedly failed the people who have elected them for decades.

McMurphy · 13-09-2018 01:21AM

DwightSchrute1 wrote: »

Here’s a crazy suggestion, maybe the Garda would just tell you to get it fixed as soon as you can.

Ah come on, if our states police force are going to be deployed to support/enable a privately employed eviction task force in a foreign registered van, you would, at the very least expect them to tell the lads to head to the nearest motor factors and sort themselves out with a front registration plate just Incase they got accused of hypocrisy/incompetence or bias at a later date.

I wonder if the British public would react badly to the London metropolitan police being deployed to assist a group of masked men who were anonymously employed to take part in an operation that involved a few masked lads who emerged from a clapped out van with a van with an Irish reg?

Serious answers on the back of a postcard please.

end of the road · 13-09-2018 01:24AM

CeilingFly wrote: »

Remember, the people involved in this are low life scum.

Unemployable waste of space.

They scam the taxpayers out of hundreds of euro every week because they think they have a right not to seek gainful employment or contribute to society.

As they believe they are a law upon themselves, they think nothing of harassing anyone that does not agree with their effed up thinking and would have no issue in putting images and personal details online of anyone getting in their way.

Hence it is quite correct for those imposing high court ruling to prevent these scum from making personal attacks on these people.

Personally I think the Gardai should have gone in with full riot gear and beaten the sh1t out of these Unemployable scum. Thats how it would be done in other countries

i presume you know all these people personally to call them all you have called them and accused them of? or is it the old they don't work the same hours as me mistruth?
it was the hired masked hoodies who prevented themselves from being identified in any way, not even a badge. something it is not correct to do, as it would prevent prosecutions against them should that need to happen. that's among many other potential issues.
beating up people isn't done in most countries these days, the world has mostly moved on, recognising that beating someone up is asalt.

NIMAN wrote: »

Anyone who was employed to get those squatters out had no option but to cover their faces with masks.

I know it makes them look evil and all, but would you do that job and show your face, so that the social media mob could find out who you are, post your name and your address for the world to see, identifying your house for possible attack by halfwits?

They have form, they did it to members of the Gardai before, public servants who were simply following the orders of their bosses and doing their job.

the gardai are different to hired masked individuals. hired masked individuals don't get to not identify themselves in some form. the gardai have to have a badge, so the private security lot (who shouldn't be carying out evictions anyway) should definitely have identification. if they don't want to take the risk, don't do the job.

prinzeugen · 13-09-2018 01:25AM

20Cent wrote: »

Concussion and neck injuries as well.

No.. Read the letter. It says "If a friend or family member spots any of these symptoms return the patient to hospital".

The guys injury's were so severe that they discharged him. Real neck injuries would be a stay in hospital longer than a few hours.

Absolute bull**** propaganda.

DwightSchrute1 · 13-09-2018 01:31AM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Ah come on, if our states police force are going to be deployed to support/enable a privately employed eviction task force in a foreign registered van, you would, at the very least expect them to tell the lads to head to the nearest motor factors and sort themselves out with a front registration plate just Incase they got accused of hypocrisy/incompetence or bias at a later date.

I wonder if the British public would react badly to the London metropolitan police being deployed to assist a group of masked men who were anonymously employed to take part in an operation that involved a few masked lads who emerged from a clapped out van with a van with an Irish reg?

Serious answers on the back of a postcard please.

I was answering the poster’s query about what would happen if he informed the Guards that his front plate fell off. I didn’t make any reference about what occurred at the eviction. But sure don’t let that get in the way of a good rant. Hope you enjoy the postcard.

the_syco · 13-09-2018 01:34AM

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ruairimckiernan/status/1039905371685613568

Not the worst Iv ever seen. The social media exaggeration bs doesn't help things.

I'm trying to figure out how they got the wound. A defensive wound would generally have been on the other side of the hand.

Laneyh wrote: »

There would have been no reason to assume they would violently resist this time. I completely agree that the private security sent there and the Garda backup were way in excess of what was needed

Private security were there because the trespassers didn't leave of their own accord before the private security turned up.
The Gardai were there in relation to the large group of protesters that turned up.

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

The guards refusing or unwilling/unable to confirm who actually employed the services of these masked men doesn't appear to be doing them much favours either.

If they're unable to confirm who employed them, do you not think that they'd wait until they're able to confirm who hired them before telling the press?

end of the road wrote: »

if they had id, then there would be no theories as to who they may be.

Why would they have ID?

the_syco · 13-09-2018 01:39AM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

I wonder if the British public would react badly to the London metropolitan police being deployed to assist a group of masked men who were anonymously employed to take part in an operation that involved a few masked lads who emerged from a clapped out van with a van with an Irish reg?

In the UK, there are companies to remove people who overhold, or illegally trespass and squat.

Gimme A Pound · 13-09-2018 01:44AM

The obsession with the private security guys and the balaclavas is real strawclutching stuff.

NIMAN · 13-09-2018 01:49AM

Bethany Long Pensioner wrote: »

The obsession with the private security guys and the balaclavas is real strawclutching stuff.

And number plates. And tax discs.

deco nate · 13-09-2018 02:02AM

NIMAN wrote: »

If your plate fell off, nothing would happen you.
If caught with no plate I am sure 99.9% of guards would inform you you have no plate and to get one fitted.

No drama.

Meh, that really depends on if they know you.... That's a lot of bs now, a few years ago.yes but not now. No matter how I feel about the last few days. I find it hard to find it's OK for outside forces being brought in and being allowed drag people out that were protesting.

And backed up by the "police" , I really find it hard to believe that anyone can put on a balaclava and can be backed up by the guards and let them hurt people. No matter how much I disagree with the protest. People coming from outside of the country to do this and to be backed up by the guards.

Also, plays into the hands of... Ohh look who our new commissioner is, and were he was recruited from.

Not good is it?

end of the road · 13-09-2018 02:06AM

the_syco wrote: »

Why would they have ID?

because dispite being private security, they were involved in enforcing the law. a job they shouldn't actually be doing, but still a job they were doing.

the_syco wrote: »

In the UK, there are companies to remove people who overhold, or illegally trespass and squat.

those are the bailiffs. the uk's bailiffs are privatized.

Bethany Long Pensioner wrote: »

The obsession with the private security guys and the balaclavas is real strawclutching stuff.

not at all. it's very reasonable to be concerned about out of state, unidentified and unidentifiable shadowy hoodies who are workers of a private company, doing a job that a state service should be doing, being helped by our boys in the gardai.

the_syco · 13-09-2018 02:07AM

deco nate wrote: »

I find it hard to find it's OK for outside forces being brought in and being allowed drag people out that were protesting.

So you're totally okay with people gaining unlawful entry to accommodation, and squatting there?

deco nate wrote: »

And backed up by the police

You must have had your head in the sand. The Gardai were there to keep the peace.

Gimme A Pound · 13-09-2018 02:07AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

so in the Land League era, you'd only have sympathy with the actual tenants who were evicted, and not those from other walks of Irish society who chose to show solidarity with them and help them in their fight for justice because they believed that it was the right thing to do?

I put it to you that if participation in every single social issue fight in history was restricted only to those who were the direct victims of it, and not those who merely sympathised with them ideologically, a great multitude of successful fights for justice and human rights would at best have taken far longer to win, and at worst would have been lost altogether. That sucks, but it's a fact. The fight for civil rights in Northern Ireland couldn't have been won without the help and support of people from outside that jurisdiction. The civil rights movement in the United States could not have been successful without the help of sympathetic white legislators already in power. The fight against apartheid couldn't have been successful without international pressure as well as pressure from the actual downtrodden.

Your position is quite odd, to be honest. I genuinely don't think I can get my head around it.

"So what you're saying is..."

Yeah there is utterly zero odd about my original stated position which was: directly comparing tenants being cruelly evicted from their home in the 1800s to the removal of squatters who accessed a private property without permission... is grossly dishonest. Nothing more. All the other bits were added by you.

Akabusi · 13-09-2018 02:09AM

God we really have a lot of stupid wasters in this country who think they are entitled to everything without contributing anything. Stupid is a strong word but they hold Murphy and Coppinger up as some sort of crusaders, fools the lot of ye, they are playing you, jumping on any populist situation that keeps them in a great job. Get a job, contribute and make this country better, oh wait it’s an unjust society, house prices are too high, we can’t afford to rent, well try moving to somewhere that you can, if the country is that bad then leave, you have the whole of the EU to chose from. I am glad the majority of the country are hard working people that uphold the law, just a pity they don’t come down harder on the wasters.

deco nate · 13-09-2018 02:14AM

the_syco wrote: »

So you're totally okay with people gaining unlawful entry to accommodation, and squatting there?

You must have had your head in the sand. The Gardai were there to keep the peace.

What are you on about? They were there to help hired hands from outside of the state. Read my post again.

And stop with the bs please, thank you........

DwightSchrute1 · 13-09-2018 02:18AM

deco nate wrote: »

What are you on about? They were there to help hired hands from outside of the state. Read my post again.

And stop with the bs please, thank you........

How do you know that they were from outside the state?

weldoninhio · 13-09-2018 02:20AM

20Cent wrote: »

Four of the people evicted were hospitalised due to injuries suffered during the eviction. Assault by masked men protected by the Gardai, a sinister thing to happen.

Four of the people evicted?? There were only four inside the house in total.

deco nate · 13-09-2018 02:21AM

the_syco wrote: »

So you're totally okay with people gaining unlawful entry to accommodation, and squatting there?

You must have had your head in the sand. The Gardai were there to keep the peace.

If you are going to ask me about anything, quote it all and don't try to dissect it.
I could say more about the bs that people try this ****e. How about you quote my full post next time, you know so to put it into context. As I posted it.
But you are trying to get me a ban. As you wouldn't quote my full post and reply to it as a hole as it does not suit your narrative.

end of the road · 13-09-2018 02:25AM

Akabusi wrote: »

God we really have a lot of stupid wasters in this country who think they are entitled to everything without contributing anything.

we have a small amount in reality.

Akabusi wrote: »

Get a job, contribute and make this country better, oh wait it’s an unjust society,

according to who?

Akabusi wrote: »

house prices are too high, we can’t afford to rent, well try moving to somewhere that you can,

often that isn't viable.

Akabusi wrote: »

if the country is that bad then leave, you have the whole of the EU to chose from.

it's great we have the whole of the EU to choose from, but leaving ireland isn't viable for some, and it's not sustainible for the country as a whole to have large amounts of people leaving.

Akabusi wrote: »

I am glad the majority of the country are hard working people that uphold the law,

as are we all. however, a lot of those people are protesting as they have had enough of poor everything and a very high cost for it.

Akabusi wrote: »

just a pity they don’t come down harder on the wasters.

they do when they can.

rom · 13-09-2018 02:26AM

Electric picnic security used to come from Scotland. We are part of this thing called the EU. It's great indeed. You should read up on it. It's mad sure it is.

end of the road · 13-09-2018 02:29AM

DwightSchrute1 wrote: »

How do you know that they were from outside the state?

they were driving a uk registered van with a uk number plate. that would certainly be a possible give away. and apparently, at least one or 2 of those companies who cary out evictions are from out of the state.

end of the road · 13-09-2018 02:34AM

rom wrote: »

Electric picnic security used to come from Scotland. We are part of this thing called the EU. It's great indeed. You should read up on it. It's mad sure it is.

i bet those security were identifiable as security.

DwightSchrute1 · 13-09-2018 02:35AM

end of the road wrote: »

they were driving a uk registered van with a uk number plate. that would certainly be a possible give away. and apparently, at least one or 2 of those companies who cary out evictions are from out of the state.

Certainly is possible. It’s also possible that the owner could live in NI but work in the Republic. Also possible that the van was recently purchased by someone living in the Republic and not registered yet.

end of the road · 13-09-2018 02:38AM

DwightSchrute1 wrote: »

Certainly is possible. It’s also possible that the owner could live in NI but work in the Republic. Also possible that the van was recently purchased by someone living in the Republic and not registered yet.

if they were carying id, we'd know. if they came under the the PSA like all other private security, we'd know. but neither are the case, so we haven't a clue who they are.

DwightSchrute1 · 13-09-2018 02:46AM

end of the road wrote: »

if they were carying id, we'd know. if they came under the the PSA like all other private security, we'd know. but neither are the case, so we haven't a clue who they are.

Why should you, an anonymous poster on a Internet forum be entitled to know the identities of people who are involved in something that has nothing to do with you?

P_1 · 13-09-2018 02:52AM

The only thing worse than no protest is an ineffective protest.

Marches and blockades dont work anymore. Do you think the elites give a shiite about them bar laughing as the rest of us who have to deal with their shiite turn against each other?

The next logical step is to take the fight to them. Blockade them in their ivory towers. Find what businesses they own and boycott the living daylights out of them. Hit them where it hurts, in their pockets. Then we might actually see some change happening.

Stupid, ineffective protests like today achieve nothing bar turning the rest of us against each other and letting the bastards win.

J_E · 13-09-2018 03:14AM

DwightSchrute1 wrote: »

Why should you, an anonymous poster on a Internet forum be entitled to know the identities of people who are involved in something that has nothing to do with you?

What are you talking about... citizens have a right to know. What are you even arguing here?

It seems posters here can't seem to make the jump in logic, that it is possible to not necessarily condone the behaviour of the protesters while raising concern why an anonymous hooded group of men were assisted by a state police force.

DwightSchrute1 · 13-09-2018 03:28AM

J_E wrote: »

What are you talking about... citizens have a right to know. What are you even arguing here?

It seems posters here can't seem to make the jump in logic, that it is possible to not necessarily condone the behaviour of the protesters while raising concern why an anonymous hooded group of men were assisted by a state police force.

So you think every citizen of this country have a right to know the identities of those men? That would set a very dangerous precedent if that was the case.

the_syco · 13-09-2018 03:43AM

deco nate wrote: »

If you are going to ask me about anything, quote it all and don't try to dissect it.

I quote the bit I'm responding to.

deco nate wrote: »

But you are trying to get me a ban.

I actually have no idea wtf you mean by this?

deco nate wrote: »

What are you on about? They were there to help hired hands from outside of the state. Read my post again.

So you found out who bought it in 2014?

The Frederick St protest and reaction

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