The Frederick St protest and reaction

J_E · 12-09-2018 11:23PM

Iodine1 wrote: »

The private group were not acting illegally. The van is registered, reg plate on rear, and there is no proof to back up the tax, etc claims.

Parked illegally. No front reg on show. Back reg is UK. Doesn't raise any questions for you? Really?

Deleted User wrote: »

Coppinger on Tonight there now "I wouldn't have the right to vote if people hadn't broken the law" Jesus wept.

Civil disobedience is creating a serious discussion and awareness on housing in Dublin - is that not a good thing for all of us at the end of the day?

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

So private property and people squating in it , and up roar over how they were evicted , regardless of the homeless crisis they had no right to be there , nothing to see here aa far as i can see or am i missing something ?

If somebody took ur car cause they didnt have a car would you just leave it ? Fook no you wouldnt

No, that's not why people are in uproar. You are missing a lot.

Eircom_Sucks · 12-09-2018 11:24PM

So private property and people squating in it , and up roar over how they were evicted , regardless of the homeless crisis they had no right to be there , nothing to see here aa far as i can see or am i missing something ?

If somebody took ur car cause they didnt have a car would you just leave it ? Fook no you wouldnt

20Cent · 12-09-2018 11:25PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Coppinger on Tonight there now "I wouldn't have the right to vote if people hadn't broken the law" Jesus wept.

It's true.
The women's suffragette movement broke the law and protested.

Royal Legend · 12-09-2018 11:25PM

20Cent wrote: »

You can work full time and still not be able to afford somewhere to live in Dublin.

Very aware of that, what is your point?

Wheeliebin30 · 12-09-2018 11:26PM

Coppinger getting rinsed in the tonight show.

I’m elected to break the law she said, oh dear.

Hurrache · 12-09-2018 11:26PM

20Cent wrote: »

It's true.
The women's suffragette movement broke the law and protested.

They were wrongly denied the vote, amongst other things, by law.

The people who entered the private premises are legally not denied housing, apart from housing that's not theirs obviously.

20Cent · 12-09-2018 11:27PM

Royal Legend wrote: »

Very aware of that, what is your point?

That the crisis is at boiling point something has to give. Also being homeless doesn't equal being lazy or unemployed.

20Cent · 12-09-2018 11:30PM

Hurrache wrote: »

They were wrongly denied the vote, amongst other things, by law.

The people who entered the private premises are legally not denied housing, apart from housing that's not theirs obviously.

Sometimes laws need to be broken for the greater good is her point. This is true a lot of our freedoms come from people breaking the law.

dxhound2005 · 12-09-2018 11:30PM

20Cent wrote: »

You can work full time and still not be able to afford somewhere to live in Dublin.

According to the 2017 property tax statistics about 67% of properties in Fingal were in the valuation bands below €250,000. Everything depending on salary of course, but many full time workers could enter that market. Those living there already would include some workers.

NIMAN · 12-09-2018 11:30PM

20Cent wrote: »

That the crisis is at boiling point something has to give. Also being homeless doesn't equal being lazy or unemployed.

Unfortunately when the likes of Margaret Cash are your poster boys/girls, then it will be equated to that.

Carlos Orange · 12-09-2018 11:31PM

Given that people are complaining about double yellow lines and posting conspiracy theories on twitter about English police being involved I'm going to assume the guards did all right.

cursai · 12-09-2018 11:32PM

Hurrache wrote: »

I doubt there is any. The guys inside left peacefully and the public order stemmed from some outside. You can guarantee if there were videos to make the Gardai look bad it would be all over the place.

The fact the biggest gripe is about an untaxed van and headwear says it all.

Ah nuts!!!
Did the van at least drive over the scrotes?

Annasopra · 12-09-2018 11:32PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

In fact that is a lie.

How so

dxhound2005 · 12-09-2018 11:32PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

How so

I read the real facts on the thread.

Samsong · 12-09-2018 11:33PM

Its a complete crisis now. The traffic into dublin every morning starting back at naas shows how many are travelling to the capital to work.
why previous governments didnt build upwards in our capital city especially is unbelievably short sighted. Our bed has been made now we must sleep in it.

The protests are serving a purpose as its keeping the issue highlighted as the shortage affects us or people we know. The way it was handled is truly Irish though. A rusty van with balaclava wearing heavies with the riot squad on site to keep the peace. But those protesters were on private property and had a court order to get out.
What a **** show of a country

20Cent · 12-09-2018 11:34PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

According to the 2017 property tax statistics about 67% of properties in Fingal were in the valuation bands below €250,000. Everything depending on salary of course, but many full time workers could enter that market. Those living there already would include some workers.

There aren't enough houses for sale even if you could afford it. Population growth plus lack of building. The turnover of stock is way below that of healthy market.

20Cent · 12-09-2018 11:34PM

NIMAN wrote: »

Unfortunately when the likes of Margaret Cash are your poster boys/girls, then it will be equated to that.

Never heard of her.
It's not about one person.

Iodine1 · 12-09-2018 11:35PM

J_E wrote: »

Parked illegally. No front reg on show. Back reg is UK. Doesn't raise any questions for you? Really?
Van is registered, thank you for admitting same. Parked illegally for a short time? There are clampers to implement that law. And no I cant see what question I would be missing here, its not illegal to drive uk vehicles here or for uk residents to work here legally.

Civil disobedience is creating a serious discussion and awareness on housing in Dublin - is that not a good thing for all of us at the end of the day?

Law breaking just because people feel like it is wrong and will not add a single dwelling, and neither will Coppinger with her "against everything" attitude.

Annasopra · 12-09-2018 11:37PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I read the real facts on the thread.

And?

Samsong · 12-09-2018 11:38PM

Iodine1 wrote: »

J_E wrote: »

Parked illegally. No front reg on show. Back reg is UK. Doesn't raise any questions for you? Really?
Van is registered, thank you for admitting same. Parked illegally for a short time? There are clampers to implement that law. And no I cant see what question I would be missing here, its not illegal to drive uk vehicles here or for uk residents to work here legally.

Civil disobedience is creating a serious discussion and awareness on housing in Dublin - is that not a good thing for all of us at the end of the day?

Law breaking just because people feel like it is wrong and will not add a single dwelling, and neither will Coppinger with her "against everything" attitude.

That maybe so but do you not see the problem in front of your nose?
There is a housing shortage. People are stuck renting paying crazy money.People are living in hotels and on the street. Nothing is being done. Ignore coppinger , the protesters and the police and look at the problem

blanch152 · 12-09-2018 11:38PM

Samsong wrote: »

Its a complete crisis now. The traffic into dublin every morning starting back at naas shows how many are travelling to the capital to work.
why previous governments didnt build upwards in our capital city especially is unbelievably short sighted. Our bed has been made now we must sleep in it.

The protests are serving a purpose as its keeping the issue highlighted as the shortage affects us or people we know. The way it was handled is truly Irish though. A rusty van with balaclava wearing heavies with the riot squad on site to keep the peace. But those protesters were on private property and had a court order to get out.
What a **** show of a country

The political parties behind the protests - SF and PBP - are the same ones that are running DCC and preventing the implementation of a high-rise policy. Only in Ireland could they get away with that kind of hypocrisy.

rom · 12-09-2018 11:39PM

Can we all stop bickering and focus at the main issue at hand. A van didn't have tax and insurance displayed. And to make matters worse it was missing its reg on the front. Clearly law and order has broken down and marshal law should be declared. What were we talking about again. I have a gut feeling that it may have had a bald tire also. Please for the love of god can we just focus on the van. All the other issues are a sideshow.

dxhound2005 · 12-09-2018 11:39PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

And?

You can read them too.

Gatling · 12-09-2018 11:40PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

while voicing your concerns of how the states police were seemingly hired to facilitate some anonymous masked goons.

Where was the "States police " hired ,

By all accounts they attended what could have been an eviction which could have turned nasty considering all the social media waffles about it ,

They did their duty and kept the peace which is what they are paid to do

Samsong · 12-09-2018 11:40PM

blanch152 wrote: »

The political parties behind the protests - SF and PBP - are the same ones that are running DCC and preventing the implementation of a high-rise policy. Only in Ireland could they get away with that kind of hypocrisy.

If that is true then they should be ignored. That is madness.

CeilingFly · 12-09-2018 11:43PM

20Cent wrote: »

It wasn't a planned protest. People turned up when the eviction started. A few hundred. An actual protest is being planned will be a big one I reckon.

It was very well flagged and promoted for an "unplanned" protest and a very poor turnout.

20Cent · 12-09-2018 11:45PM

CeilingFly wrote: »

It was very well flagged and promoted for an "unplanned" protest and a very poor turnout.

The protest started because the eviction started. Hundreds turned up to something that wasn't intended or planned in advance.

12-09-2018 11:50PM

20Cent wrote: »

The protest started because the eviction started. Hundreds turned up to something that wasn't intended or planned in advance.

Yeah court issued eviction notices don't have dates. They had no idea when the authorities would show up.

NIMAN · 12-09-2018 11:51PM

Was the eviction not yesterday and the protest today?

Am I missing something?

Kermit.de.frog · 12-09-2018 11:53PM

Samsong wrote: »

Its a complete crisis now. The traffic into dublin every morning starting back at naas shows how many are travelling to the capital to work.
why previous governments didnt build upwards in our capital city especially is unbelievably short sighted. Our bed has been made now we must sleep in it.

I'm surprised no one asks this question more often.

How many county councillors and planners are landlords who have no personal interest in increasing supply dramatically?

We could have built 30 storey + buildings all over the docklands with ample apartments over the last 10 years. Many developers have tried down the years.

Ask yourself this...

Do you really believe the primary concern is Dublin's beautiful skyline being ruined?

The Frederick St protest and reaction

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