The Frederick St protest and reaction

Hurrache · 12-09-2018 10:42PM

golfball37 wrote: »

The Gardai should be arresting anyone driving around Dublin in a balaclava with blacked out plates. Are private out of state security operatives exempt from the law of this land?

So they had blacked out plates now, and were out of state security operatives.

This just keeps giving.

Wheeliebin30 · 12-09-2018 10:42PM

J_E wrote: »

Was it necessary to have 2 groups of masked security for this? One still unknown with an illegally parked/registered vehicle? This is a scary police response. You can't tell me this was in any way necessary.

Is there evidence the occupiers were violent and warranted this level of force?

Scary?

Oh im sooooooo scared of the big bad men in balaclavas, grow a set you woman’s blouse.

weldoninhio · 12-09-2018 10:43PM

J_E wrote: »

I want the Gardai to respond with appropriate force, be identifiable, and not be supporting mysterious private hired help who should not be assisted in such a manner.

This whole thing could have been handled in a very different way. This is going to cause war now because of the heavy-handed response and questionable tactics.

There is no question of Gardai not handling the law. Why did they have to handle it in this way though?

If it does “cause war”, my money will be on the ones with the batons, armed response backup and training. Hopefully there’ll be a catch-up show I can watch in the evening to see the day highlights after work.

12-09-2018 10:43PM

Bethany Long Pensioner wrote: »

How utterly nasty.

To speak about people who have to put their children in creche because they cannot give up work, who have bought their own home but all they can afford is one that is a long commute, in such a way. But they're the bad ones, those blocking them from getting home to their children and the precious little free time they have... yeah they're the good guys.

The quoted is what's ****ing pavlovian.

They are not the 'bad ones', they are the passive participators in a system that forced them into this lifestyle in the first place. Its unsustainable in the long run. Instead of agitating for meaningful change they do nothing and meekly accept their lot. I'm not being 'nasty', just harsh on those that don't like their circumstances but at the same time won't attempt to do anything about it.

Hurrache · 12-09-2018 10:44PM

flazio wrote: »

If the Gardaí went in with their faces uncovered, is there not a possibility that photos would have been taken, posted up on Facebook and their names and addresses posted online?
After that there's no telling what might happen to their families.

Not a possibility, a given.

blanch152 · 12-09-2018 10:44PM

J_E wrote: »

I want the Gardai to respond with appropriate force, be identifiable, and not be supporting mysterious private hired help who should not be assisted in such a manner.

This whole thing could have been handled in a very different way. This is going to cause war now because of the heavy-handed response and questionable tactics.

There is no question of Gardai not handling the law. Why did they have to handle it in this way though?

The Gardai were identifiable, their badges were on display.

You wanted their faces to be seen, so that the mob could stop them on the street, call round to their house, harrass them on social media, as has happened after other protests.

The protesters have lost any sympathy from the police force, because of such tactics in previous protests.

Esel · 12-09-2018 10:44PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

why do you need to identify yourself to illegal squatters you are lawfully removing ? they are the criminals here correct ?

the numbers were visible on one of the guys wasnt it ? front of his jacket ? only one picture from one angle ? hardly surprised you couldnt id every garda who was there

how were they heavy handed ?

if they were not there they would have been called immediately upon the eviction starting assaults criminal damage public order offences trespassing

Did you see the short, stocky one with his baton drawn and ready to strike?

Wheeliebin30 · 12-09-2018 10:46PM

Esel wrote: »

Did you see the short, stocky one with his baton drawn and ready to strike?

Good, only way to keep the peace.

Hurrache · 12-09-2018 10:46PM

Esel wrote: »

Did you see the short, stocky one with his baton drawn and ready to strike?

In other words, the short stocky one that didn't resort to anything heavy handed from what you saw?

What do you think the people who were arrested for public order offences done?

Esel · 12-09-2018 10:50PM

Hurrache wrote: »

In other words, the short stocky one that didn't resort to anything heavy handed from what you saw?

What do you think the people who were arrested for public order offences done?

He was "heavy handed" in the clips I saw.

Wheeliebin30 · 12-09-2018 10:51PM

Honestly the only people on my Facebook page supporting these morons earlier is single mothers who actually have a house paid for by the tax payer???

Why are they so angry with life, hmmmm I wonder why.

McMurphy · 12-09-2018 10:55PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Another wall of nonsense. When did I say the building owners family were in the “industry”? The building owner has the right to enforce the court order.

Right here

The Gardai may not know who employed the eviction team, or if they are even employed, it could be family members or friends of the owner. That is not the Gardai’s concern.

Sigh

2nd part of the nonsense. Anyone “calling on your person” while you are illegally occupying someone else’s house would have to show you ID?? FFS.

You don't think anyone carryingout eviction notices on behalf of a high court should be expected to show ID

bless your little cotton socks.

3rd paragraph. You read “somewhere” online? I’ll go with the Garda spokesperson on this one.

glad to hear that so

link

"An Garda Sh is satisfied that the vehicle in question is tax and insurance compliant," gardai said in a statement.

Keep digging.

And the final para of nonsense. As far as you are aware. Jesus wept. Maybe it fell off and they had informed the Gardaf same, which the Gardaook at face value.

Maybe the dog ate it.

Scutter. Absolute scutter.

McMurphy · 12-09-2018 11:01PM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Honestly the only people on my Facebook page supporting these morons earlier is single mothers who actually have a house paid for by the tax payer???

Why are they so angry with life, hmmmm I wonder why.

This is not a side picking exercise, it is possible to simultaneously not support the actions of the protesters, while voicing your concerns of how the states police were seemingly hired to facilitate some anonymous masked goons.

J_E · 12-09-2018 11:03PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

This is not a side picking exercise, it is possible to simultaneously not support the actions of the protesters, while voicing your concerns of how the states police were seemingly hired to facilitate some anonymous masked goons.

Yes, exactly this.... Why are people conveniently ignoring this fact.

Trasna1 · 12-09-2018 11:04PM

White_hills wrote: »

But your apathy isn't doing anything either. What do you suggest? And to add to that, people have as much right to protest as you do commute.

They have a right to protest but they don't have a right to bring cross city transport to a halt and inconvenience thousands of people.

I've no problem with the many planned marches and protests that have happened in the city over the years even if I wasn't behind or indeed opposed the causes.

dxhound2005 · 12-09-2018 11:04PM

J_E wrote: »

Yes, exactly this.... Why are people conveniently ignoring this fact.

In fact that is a lie.

CeilingFly · 12-09-2018 11:05PM

golfball37 wrote: »

The Gardai should be arresting anyone driving around Dublin in a balaclava with blacked out plates. Are private out of state security operatives exempt from the law of this land?

Remember, the people involved in this are low life scum.

Unemployable waste of space.

They scam the taxpayers out of hundreds of euro every week because they think they have a right not to seek gainful employment or contribute to society.

As they believe they are a law upon themselves, they think nothing of harassing anyone that does not agree with their effed up thinking and would have no issue in putting images and personal details online of anyone getting in their way.

Hence it is quite correct for those imposing high court ruling to prevent these scum from making personal attacks on these people.

Personally I think the Gardai should have gone in with full riot gear and beaten the sh1t out of these Unemployable scum. Thats how it would be done in other countries

cursai · 12-09-2018 11:09PM

Anybody have any links to videos of the lads getting knocked about by the Gardai. I like watching videos of pimple popping.

12-09-2018 11:09PM

Why don't they go pitch tents on some publicly owned undeveloped land to highlight their cause? Oh wait nothing gets the cameras down like an eviction from a private property now does it.

NIMAN · 12-09-2018 11:10PM

J_E wrote: »

Yes, exactly this.... Why are people conveniently ignoring this fact.

Anyone who was employed to get those squatters out had no option but to cover their faces with masks.

I know it makes them look evil and all, but would you do that job and show your face, so that the social media mob could find out who you are, post your name and your address for the world to see, identifying your house for possible attack by halfwits?

They have form, they did it to members of the Gardai before, public servants who were simply following the orders of their bosses and doing their job.

dxhound2005 · 12-09-2018 11:10PM

CeilingFly wrote: »

Remember, the people involved in this are low life scum.

Unemployable waste of space.

They scam the taxpayers out of hundreds of euro every week because they think they have a right not to seek gainful employment or contribute to society.

As they believe they are a law upon themselves, they think nothing of harassing anyone that does not agree with their effed up thinking and would have no issue in putting images and personal details online of anyone getting in their way.

Hence it is quite correct for those imposing high court ruling to prevent these scum from making personal attacks on these people.

Personally I think the Gardai should have gone in with full riot gear and beaten the sh1t out of these Unemployable scum. Thats how it would be done in other countries

Some are even worse than that. They go to Trinity.

Hurrache · 12-09-2018 11:12PM

cursai wrote: »

Anybody have any links to videos of the lads getting knocked about by the Gardai. I like watching videos of pimple popping.

I doubt there is any. The guys inside left peacefully and the public order stemmed from some outside. You can guarantee if there were videos to make the Gardai look bad it would be all over the place.

The fact the biggest gripe is about an untaxed van and headwear says it all.

CeilingFly · 12-09-2018 11:12PM

Paul Murphy must have been extremely disappointed that a miniscule number turned out for his protest.

Seems he was hoping for a couple of thousand, but barely got a couple of hundred.

Anthracite · 12-09-2018 11:14PM

If anyone is interested in the conspiracy theorist nonsense-world a lot of these protesters come from, there are threads on this site on Identity Ireland/Joe Doocey/Stephen Manning, United People/Jeff Rudd (formerly Biggins of this parish), and of course the Freeman Megamerge thread.

Have a browse and be awe-struck by the stupidity and warped world-views in evidence.

And that's before we even get into true believers in the holy faith of Marxism.

20Cent · 12-09-2018 11:17PM

CeilingFly wrote: »

Paul Murphy must have been extremely disappointed that a miniscule number turned out for his protest.

Seems he was hoping for a couple of thousand, but barely got a couple of hundred.

It wasn't a planned protest. People turned up when the eviction started. A few hundred. An actual protest is being planned will be a big one I reckon.

Royal Legend · 12-09-2018 11:19PM

These two people interviewed on the Tonight show, they are not homeless, where do they get the time to occupy these buildings, are they students, are they on the dole?
would be interesting to know.

20Cent · 12-09-2018 11:20PM

Royal Legend wrote: »

These two people interviewed on the Tonight show, they are not homeless, where do they get the time to occupy these buildings, are they students, are they on the dole?
would be interesting to know.

You can work full time and still not be able to afford somewhere to live in Dublin.

Iodine1 · 12-09-2018 11:22PM

J_E wrote: »

And what of this private group in the unregistered van, so?

The private group were not acting illegally. The van is registered, reg plate on rear, and there is no proof to back up the tax, etc claims.

prinzeugen · 12-09-2018 11:22PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Why would you realise what I do in my professional career, as I have never discussed it in all my years of posting.

Anyway, clapped out means well worn/ used in other words it's seen better days.

I may or may not be a mechanic, it's irrelevant, I seen the pictures of the van.

I stand over my opinion.

I would like to point out that there are several agencies in Ireland that use secondhand UK reg vehicles.

I can't go into details but I once witnessed it daily. The van may have been seized in the past and is now being reused. It happens.

12-09-2018 11:22PM

Coppinger on Tonight there now "I wouldn't have the right to vote if people hadn't broken the law" Jesus wept.

The Frederick St protest and reaction

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