Serena's meltdown

NIMAN · 10-09-2018 09:59PM

Pero_Bueno wrote: »

Serena and her sister are two racist vile individuals, always have been and have gotten away with all sorts during the years by playing the "racism" and "Im a woman" card.

Their father is a horrible racist too.

... and we won't mention her TUEs and hiding from drug testing officials.

Fr_Dougal · 10-09-2018 10:00PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

This is outrageous. What an incredibly sexist bias against men. Some of them are possibly even fathers.

White fathers even!

alan partridge aha · 10-09-2018 10:01PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

White fathers even!

No white fathers don't Matter

JJayoo · 10-09-2018 10:03PM

I'd say the main issue is that she called him a thief meaning that he was cheating in order to benefit the other player.

She also said he would never umpire another match of hers threatening his career.

Fr_Dougal · 10-09-2018 10:06PM

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alan partridge aha · 10-09-2018 10:08PM

JJayoo wrote: »

I'd say the main issue is that she called him a thief meaning that he was cheating in order to benefit the other player.

She also said he would never umpire another match of hers threatening his career.

But surely if the Tennis federation has any cajones it would force Serena to make a full apology to the umpire's integrity and to her opponent.

Ficheall · 10-09-2018 10:10PM

I see a load of people losing their **** over this "Racist" cartoon

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The Rape of Lucretia · 10-09-2018 10:13PM

Ficheall wrote: »

I see a load of people losing their **** over this "Racist" cartoon

Agreed. The unwillingness to show Osaka's racial characteristics, depicting her as a generic raceless cartoon is insulting in the extreme.
I'm outraged anyway. Beside myself with anger.

Fr_Dougal · 10-09-2018 10:19PM

Ficheall wrote: »

I see a load of people losing their **** over this "Racist" cartoon

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JJayoo · 10-09-2018 10:26PM

alan partridge aha wrote: »

But surely if the Tennis federation has any cajones it would force Serena to make a full apology to the umpire's integrity and to her opponent.

They will grovel to her and her army of bellend fans.

I'm just surprised she didn't start shouting about
Trump

selectamatic · 10-09-2018 10:32PM

JJayoo wrote: »

I'd say the main issue is that she called him a thief meaning that he was cheating in order to benefit the other player.

She also said he would never umpire another match of hers threatening his career.

This.

Fcking and blinding at the umpire in brief moments of rage eg. "are you blind" or "jerk" is quite different to launching into a tirade of abuse questioning the umpires integrity and honesty all while after committing two clear rule breaches beforehand.

To crown it off with a proper threat was even more despicable.

A 17k fine was a slap on the wrist.

I've a feeling that had the resident bad boy Kyrgios done the above verbatim he'd have gotten a much harsher penalty. But thats merely my own speculation. I personally have never seen a player outburst as sustained and as nastily targeted before.

The wta, Katrina Adams and Steve Simon have really shown their true colours in this whole sorry affair too.

They were all geared up for a record breaking love in of epic back slapping proportions until Osaka spoiled the party.

Spanish Eyes · 10-09-2018 10:35PM

Well at the end of the day she lost the match. Not a good loser it seems. But then again she feels she is entitled to win, or so she thinks.

Moronic egotistical, entitled behaviour. But who cares, she lost the match.

Osaka won. And who wanted to take that away from her? Yup, got it in one.

There is no such thing as bad publicity is there from people like Williams. Not good.

Osaka lost out really even though she won. That is what makes me feel sick about Williams. All rehearsed I guess. She is yesterday's tennis champ. The Osakas of this world are nipping at her heels and she don't like it one bit!

The Rape of Lucretia · 10-09-2018 10:44PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Well at the end of the day she lost the match. Not a good loser it seems. But then again she feels she is entitled to win, or so she thinks.

Moronic egotistical, entitled behaviour. But who cares, she lost the match.

Osaka won. And who wanted to take that away from her? Yup, got it in one.

There is no such thing as bad publicity is there from people like Williams. Not good.

Osaka lost out really even though she won. That is what makes me feel sick about Williams. All rehearsed I guess. She is yesterday's tennis champ. The Osakas of this world are nipping at her heels and she don't like it one bit!

I think that she should lodge a complaint, that she is being discriminated against because players like Osaka are coming through and beating her in GSs. But are the young up and comers in the mens game challenging Feds, Djok, and Nadser ? No. Clearly blatant discrimination, and the likes of Osaka should not be allowed beat her until there is a level playing field between mens and ladies dethroning candidates. She must keep fighting for women, to right this wrong.
I think there is a strong case for the US to be retrospectively given to Serena in the cause of equality.

Dave0301 · 10-09-2018 10:58PM

abbir wrote: »
Here's an article

http://www.tennisabstract.com/blog/2018/09/10/gender-differences-in-point-penalties/

This table is about point penalties.
 Category        Matches  Penalties     P%   

Women (all)        1895         13  0.69%   

Women (slams)       490          6  1.22%   

Women (finals)      228          2  0.88%    

Men (all)          1689         16  0.95%   

Men (slams)         234          6  2.56%  

Men (finals)        371          5  1.35%

Interesting to see the breakdown of penalties like that. Would love to see that put to Serena Williams, especially seen as Ramos has a track record of penalising male players too.

As for the whole "men have said much worse and got away with it," it wasn't so much the arguing with the umpire, but the implication that he was cheating and a liar.

There is a huge difference between calling a umpire "blind" or "stupid" and outright accusing him of deliberately trying to influence the match.

Spanish Eyes · 10-09-2018 11:07PM

Well all I will say is this, three sets for women and five for men is total gender discrimination.

So either the governing bodies agree to an equal amount of sets, or it is all blx.

FFS some of the women in Tennis could haul a tractor. Serena Williams is one of them.

But Osaka did not need to be so muscular or mouthy, she won on merit. She will be back. Every dog has its day.

alan partridge aha · 10-09-2018 11:10PM

Dave0301 wrote: »

Interesting to see the breakdown of penalties like that. Would love to see that put to Serena Williams, especially seen as Ramos has a track record of penalising male players too.

As for the whole "men have said much worse and got away with it," it wasn't so much the arguing with the umpire, but the implication that he was cheating and a liar.

There is a huge difference between calling a umpire "blind" or "stupid" and outright accusing him of deliberately trying to influence the match.

That is the nub of matter imo. She's is castigating his integrity as an umpire. This is why she must apologise.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 10-09-2018 11:17PM

To play devils advocate here, the number of penalties men receive in isolation isn’t enough. You have to compare it to their number of code violations. It could be that men get fewer penalties as a percentage of their outbursts but stil more than women.

sReq | uTeK · 10-09-2018 11:20PM

there are truly great champions like Federer’s of this world who go out gracefully when beaten and let others have the limelight and then there is this scum

Arcade_Tryer · 10-09-2018 11:34PM

Nice to see that all it takes is a tantrum from a black, female sports star for the undercurrent of racism and misogyny on boards.ie to come to the surface.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 10-09-2018 11:35PM

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Nice to see that all it takes is a tantrum from a black, female sports star for the undercurrent of racism and misogyny on boards.ie to come to the surface.

I’m more anti yank myself.

Also calling her outburst a tantrum is clearly sexist? Would you use that for a man who defended himself against a racist umpire?

Clearly not. You sicken me.

Arcade_Tryer · 10-09-2018 11:42PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

I’m more anti yank myself.

Also calling her outburst a tantrum is clearly sexist? Would you use that for a man who defended himself against a racist umpire?

Clearly not. You sicken me.

Yes. Tantrum is a fairly accurate description of her behaviour by all accounts.

It is more so the use of language such as "scum" on this very page and throughout the thread which reveals a lot more about people's beliefs.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 10-09-2018 11:47PM

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Yes. Tantrum is a fairly accurate description of her behaviour by all accounts.

It is more so the use of language such as "scum" on this very page and throughout the thread which reveals a lot more about people's beliefs.

I see scumbag - a generally used Irish expression and also used for Nadal.
Wouldn’t use it myself but don’t see the problem with it.

Pauliedragon · 10-09-2018 11:49PM

I wonder what the conversation with her coach went like.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 10-09-2018 11:49PM

I see the Japanophobes are in, justifying the belligerent yanks actions and the feral crowd.

Can’t abide that. I’m out.

JupiterKid · 11-09-2018 12:40AM

Over-entitled and spoiled by her success, Serena has let herself down very badly by this stupid temper tantrum because she didn’t achieve the result she wanted. Could you imagine Navratilova doing such a scene on court? Not a chance...

John McEnroe would be proud of her...

brooke 2 · 11-09-2018 01:44AM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Over-entitled and spoiled by her success, Serena has let herself down very badly by this stupid temper tantrum because she didn’t achieve the result she wanted. Could you imagine Navratilova doing such a scene on court? Not a chance...

John McEnroe would be proud of her...

Navratilova believes Serena Williams was wrong in her outburst. Even though she agrees there is a double standard, she does not believe it's a good idea to apply a standard of, 'If men can get away with it, women should be able to, too'. She maintains that the question which players should ask themselves is this: 'What is the right way to behave to honour our sport and to respect our opponents?'

Serena Williams is thirty seven years old, I believe. Her opponent, Naomi Osaka, is only twenty, yet she could teach SW how to behave on the court. Most people I have heard commenting today, felt really aggrieved that Williams spoilt the well deserved victory of Osaka, who was the first ever Japanese winner of the US Grand Slam. I saw a comment of a Japanese official, who remarked that Naomi's win did a lot to raise the hearts of the Japanese people at this very difficult time for the country, when it has just suffered the double whammy of a hurricane and an earthquake.

That is what should be making the headlines, not the strop of an entitled spolit prima donna, whose disgraceful behaviour has been the topic of conversation all over the world. :mad:

11-09-2018 05:17AM

Pauliedragon wrote: »

I wonder what the conversation with her coach went like.

Called him a sexist because he would have never told the truth about coaching a male tennis player.

pickarooney · 11-09-2018 05:51AM

brooke 2 wrote: »

Navratilova believes Serena Williams was wrong in her outburst. Even though she agrees there is a double standard, she does not believe it's a good idea to apply a standard of, 'If men can get away with it, women should be able to, too'. She maintains that the question which players should ask themselves is this: 'What is the right way to behave to honour our sport and to respect our opponents?'

Serena Williams is thirty seven years old, I believe. Her opponent, Naomi Osaka, is only twenty, yet she could teach SW how to behave on the court. Most people I have heard commenting today, felt really aggrieved that Williams spoilt the well deserved victory of Osaka, who was the first ever Japanese winner of the US Grand Slam. I saw a comment of a Japanese official, who remarked that Naomi's win did a lot to raise the hearts of the Japanese people at this very difficult time for the country, when it has just suffered the double whammy of a hurricane and an earthquake.

That is what should be making the headlines, not the strop of an entitled spolit prima donna, whose disgraceful behaviour has been the topic of conversation all over the world. :mad:

Hasn't she lived in the US since she was three? Not sure how much Japan can claim her win as theirs. Her own family apparently disowned her for being black.

WinnyThePoo · 11-09-2018 06:45AM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

To play devils advocate here, the number of penalties men receive in isolation isn’t enough. You have to compare it to their number of code violations. It could be that men get fewer penalties as a percentage of their outbursts but stil more than women.

There where 32 violations during the open all together in the mens & womans competitions . 23 for the men and 9 for the woman. I'm not taking into account what the violations where for.

old_aussie · 11-09-2018 07:00AM

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Given to a player

I.e. the player has to receive it.

So if a player throws a swinging right fist and the other player ducks or didn't get hit, then there is no need for a penalty?

hhmmmm

Serena's meltdown

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