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Should Dublin ban Burqas and Hijabs?

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  • #512
    DChancer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭DChancer


    Odhinn wrote: »
    So why is it a problem that for you many british citizens identify as black, asian and so on British?

    Because he is a racist read post 450, its all about the white man being replaced in His (men only no women need apply) country.
    What we are dealing with here is a good ole white supremacist, not a mere opinion of mine, his own posts , his own words confirm that.


  • #513
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Odhinn wrote: »
    So why is it a problem that for you many british citizens identify as black, asian and so on British?

    I think the issue was people who are third or more generation British, never been to their grandparents country and speak none of the languages describing themselves as "British Asians" - with no Asian about them.

    Black Irish, Black British, Black Canadian whatever - of course that's legit, why would it not be ?

    African American annoys me - not every black person in America has African heritage.


  • #514
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,697 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    I think the issue was people who are third or more generation British, never been to their grandparents country and speak none of the languages describing themselves as "British Asians" - with no Asian about them.

    It's an ethnicity in itself, which many people identify with. Yer mans issue was with anything other than "white british".


  • #515
    dennispenn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭dennispenn


    DChancer wrote: »
    Because he is a racist read post 450, its all about the white man being replaced in His (men only no women need apply) country.
    What we are dealing with here is a good ole white supremacist, not a mere opinion of mine, his own posts , his own words confirm that.
    You're misrepresenting my posts and taking them out of context.

    Am I a misogynist now because I didn't include women?

    Sweet baby jesus


  • #516
    dennispenn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭dennispenn


    Odhinn wrote: »
    It's an ethnicity in itself, which many people identify with. Yer mans issue was with anything other than "white british".

    No it was not my view.

    You are misreprenting my posts.


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  • #517
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,697 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    dennispenn wrote: »
    You're misrepresenting my posts and taking them out of context.


    Not in the slightest


    There's a Town in the UK,savile in Yorkshire. The population is something around 4,000 or a little over it according to the 2011 census. Out of that census only 48 people identified as White British
    The trend is replicated in a lot of other cities where in 10 years in some cases like Luton,white British has dropped by 20℅.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107982932&postcount=435


  • #518
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    dennispenn wrote: »
    It's not racist love the skin your in. It's not racist to want your environment to remain in the same demographic as yourself.

    So you want ireland to be a white only country?


  • #519
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Not in the slightest




    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107982932&postcount=435

    I KIND OF get the original point in that there are streets where first generation Muslim immigrants have effectively taken over. there are "Sharia Law Area" signs up; an effective "religious police force" patrolling and - in a case of a close friend's children - English being just one language of 20+ spoken in a school, rendering learning nigh on impossible.

    If there is a town like this - and there are sadly - it's a problem.

    But only counting "White British" as opposed to anyone of any colour who does not behave like that above is definitely not kosher.


  • #520
    Taytoland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    People can say what they want but I would not want the place where I live to have a large Islamic population. Criticize me all you want but I want to keep it the way it is. The same can be said for a lot of other people I am sure on this Island.


  • #521
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,220 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Taytoland wrote: »
    People can say what they want but I would not want the place where I live to have a large Islamic population. Criticize me all you want but I want to keep it the way it is. The same can be said for a lot of other people I am sure on this Island.

    Over all of Europe, it is highly repressive,regressive aggressive ideology.


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  • #522
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Taytoland wrote: »
    People can say what they want but I would not want the place where I live to have a large Islamic population. Criticize me all you want but I want to keep it the way it is. The same can be said for a lot of other people I am sure on this Island.

    What if say 5000 white catholic people in your area suddenly decided to turn your back on the RCC and convert to Islam?

    Would you still be as upset about it or would it only be the darker foreign ones you wouldnt want in your back yard?


  • #523
    Giraffe Box
    Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭Giraffe Box


    Danzy wrote: »
    Over all of Europe, it is highly repressive,regressive aggressive ideology.

    What is, 'White supremacy'?


  • #524
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Danzy wrote: »
    Over all of Europe, it is highly repressive,regressive aggressive ideology.

    How many aggresive Muslims have you come into contact with recently?


  • #525
    Taytoland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Taytoland wrote: »
    People can say what they want but I would not want the place where I live to have a large Islamic population. Criticize me all you want but I want to keep it the way it is. The same can be said for a lot of other people I am sure on this Island.

    What if say 5000 white catholic people in your area suddenly decided to turn your back on the RCC and convert to Islam?

    Would you still be as upset about it or would it only be the darker foreign ones you wouldnt want in your back yard?
    I'd be upset about it. Islam is terrible for social reasons.


  • #526
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    What if say 5000 white catholic people in your area suddenly decided to turn your back on the RCC and convert to Islam?

    Would you still be as upset about it or would it only be the darker foreign ones you wouldnt want in your back yard?

    Deflect into racism accusations all you want - I'd find that worse, zealots and converts tend to me more extreme. And it's the extremists that are the bulk of the problem.

    Nice try though.


  • #527
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Taytoland wrote: »
    I'd be upset about it. Islam is terrible for social reasons.

    Why? What would change for you if 5000 people in your area suddenly changed religion? How would it affect you and your family?


  • #528
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,220 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Giraffe Box wrote: »
    What is, 'White supremacy'?

    Lol, wtf?


  • #529
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Taytoland wrote: »
    People can say what they want but I would not want the place where I live to have a large Islamic population. Criticize me all you want but I want to keep it the way it is. The same can be said for a lot of other people I am sure on this Island.

    What difference does it make to you what religion anyone else is?


  • #530
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,220 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Why? What would change for you if 5000 people in your area suddenly changed religion? How would it affect you and your family?

    That would be horrendous, converts follow the rules closely and take the religion more to heart. In all faiths

    In Islam it leads to a higher rate of militancy.


  • #531
    Taytoland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Taytoland wrote: »
    I'd be upset about it. Islam is terrible for social reasons.

    Why? What would change for you if 5000 people in your area suddenly changed religion? How would it affect you and your family?
    Mosques for starters. If 5000 people in my area turned to Islam it would be a nightmare and the character of the area changed utterly. I don't want any Mosques near me.


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  • #532
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Deflect into racism accusations all you want - I'd find that worse, zealots and converts tend to me more extreme. And it's the extremists that are the bulk of the problem.

    Nice try though.

    Hundreds of thousands have turned thier back on the RCC in recent years and turned to atheism (not a religion but certainly a different ideology) and i havent seen much of a change to Ireland other than less people going to church services.

    Why would 5000 leaving the RCC and converting to Islam have a negative affect? I haven't made any such racist accusations at all i just asked was it foreign muslims he doesnt want or ALL muslims?


  • #533
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Why? What would change for you if 5000 people in your area suddenly changed religion? How would it affect you and your family?

    Are you for real?????

    I'd like to walk down my street wearing a normal outfit and carrying a bag from the off licence - without several overbearing nutjobs threatening me.

    Believe me, that has happened in the UK


  • #534
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    bubblypop wrote: »
    What difference does it make to you what religion anyone else is?

    Yeah because they tend to leave apostates alone. :rolleyes:


  • #535
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Danzy wrote: »
    That would be horrendous, converts follow the rules closely and take the religion more to heart. In all faiths

    In Islam it leads to a higher rate of militancy.

    Neighbour and good friend of mine switched over to Mormonism about 15 years ago, his choice but not once has he ever bought the subject up or tried to convert me. No leaflets no knocking on my doors, unlike the American ones i used to get every bloody summer.


  • #536
    cfuserkildare
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    I assume none of you have walked down the South Circular Road in Dublin?
    Once the Mosque was built beside the Boxing Arena the whole character of the place nose-dived, I am pretty much convinced that now I wouldn't feel safe walking down that area after dark nowadays.

    ( Unless it has changed since I worked and lived in that part of Dublin.)


  • #537
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Taytoland wrote: »
    Mosques for starters. If 5000 people in my area turned to Islam it would be a nightmare and the character of the area changed utterly. I don't want any Mosques near me.

    I dont want any churches near me but such is life. Freedom of religion is part of living in a free society, you may not lile it but there wouldnt be much you can do about it.


  • #538
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    cfuserkildare wrote: »
    I assume none of you have walked down the South Circular Road in Dublin?
    Once the Mosque was built beside the Boxing Arena the whole character of the place nose-dived, I am pretty much convinced that now I wouldn't feel safe walking down that area after dark nowadays.

    ( Unless it has changed since I worked and lived in that part of Dublin.)

    It hasn't, my students of that faith go there and the younger ones will not go there after dark.


  • #539
    dennispenn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭dennispenn


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    So you want ireland to be a white only country?


    100% NO.
    and nowhere have I suggested this.


    I am in favor of an ethno state and so are all right minded people.


  • #540
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,220 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Neighbour and good friend of mine swithed over to Mormonism about 15 years ago, his choice but not once has he ever vought the subject up or tried to convert me. No leaflets no knocking on my doors, unlike the American ones i used to get every bloody summer.

    That is nice, relevance though?

    When people convert to a faith with militancy at its core, it has a fall out.

    It is like a non political person converting to Fascism or Social democracy.

    Ideology matters.


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  • #541
    Taytoland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Taytoland wrote: »
    Mosques for starters. If 5000 people in my area turned to Islam it would be a nightmare and the character of the area changed utterly. I don't want any Mosques near me.

    I dont want any churches near me but such is life. Freedom of religion is part of living in a free society, you may not lile it but there wouldnt be much you can do about it.
    Go build them somewhere else. Why should I accept it? Talk about secularizing society and yet people are happy for the largest enemy against secularism namely Islam to expand. It makes no sense.


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