Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

djPSB wrote: »

No he wouldn't.

When Jim was with Donegal, he had a massive point to prove having been previously overlooked by the county board. Winning an All Ireland with Donegal was the dream. That team trained ridiculously hard as outlined in his autobiography.

Jim McGuinness couldn't give two clucks about Mayo winning an All Ireland. His only motivation for the role would be financial. There's no way he could commit what he committed to Donegal given the distance. There's no way he could have time to attend club games every weekend. Mayo would be flying him into Knock from Donegal several times a week. After a year or two Jim returns back to Donegal having cost Mayo a fortune. He has no vested interest in Mayo only a financial one.

Jack O'Connor is the same.

Galway tried it previously with Kernan for the football and Loughnanne for the hurling. Both were unmitigated disasters and set the county back years financially.

Yes John O' Mahony was successful but his profile was much different to Jim and Jack.

That would be my line of thinking as well.

I've no problem bringing in an outside coach to give a different voice in training but the manager and selectors should be in house appointments.

muddle84 wrote: »

Why do so many people think McGuinness would win an all ireland with Mayo next year, just like that. Wave his magic potion and 15 people sit inside their own 45 and magically score more than the Dubs.

Ah no, all messing aside though. Why do you think he would do it with Mayo just like that, when he couldn't get a second one with Donegal?

He came damn close to winning a second though only for two freak goals in the final and the last ball of the game coming off the base of an upright to level.
He is also the only manager to have beaten a Jim Gavin managed Dublin senior championship team, and beat them comprehensively by 6 points.
Only for that defeat Dublin would now most likely have 6 in a row rather than 4.
He has said he is not interested in the Mayo job anyway so what he could have done or not is a moot point. Had Mayo approached him when Horan stepped down and had he taken the job would have been interesting though.

RedDevil55 wrote: »

Mayo have come damn close to several all Irelands this decade if only x, y and z happened!

Anyway, Jim won't be manager so it's pointless talking about it.

I said on here from the first time his name came up that it I believed it was nothing other than pie in the sky and that he had no interest in the Mayo job.


Of course Mayo came close on several occasions but McGuinness did guide Donegal to win an AI and with being the only manager to come up with a strategy to beat this current Dublin championship team in the last 6 years showed he is not a one trick pony as some in both the media and here apear to suggest.

jr86 wrote: »

Zeek12 wrote: »

He obviously changed his mind very quickly......heard him on the Last Word with Matt Cooper this evening - saying he can't see anyone stopping the Dubs next time.

As for next year. Who knows?
Dublin are a really special team and at times can make a mockery of the opposition. They have a fantastic squad.

But next year will bring a new kind of pressure.
The 5 in a row bandwagon will be immense and non stop.
Pretty much from the moment they kick their first ball of the Leinster championship.

And it will just crank up from there.

All the pressure is on Dublin next year.

Other counties will have nothing to lose.

It should be interesting

Can't agree I'm afraid, I think it'll be another procession to the title for Dublin, and the year after that, and the year after that...

They are so far ahead it's insane and with such a conveyor belt of talent coming through, there's no hope of them going away anytime soon

I also agree, they will be there in the final again next year and will probably win 5 in a row. It won't last forever though, somebody will topple them and it might be a surprise bit of look like Seamus Darby in the 80's that does it. But it will happen. I only hope Darby is playing for us.

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

I only learned yesterday that Offaly had been in the AIF in 1981 and ran Kerry close enough by the look of it. the legend of the team that came from nowhere to stop Kerry's galllop has kind of airbrushed that bit out...

Name the Connacht championship medal winner that laid a hit on a Kerry player in that 1981 final that would see him get a lengthy ban in this and age ?

On that day Kerry just got a free, no booking or anything for the offender.

If anyone has a link to a video of it please post it, its class.

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Name the Connacht championship medal winner that laid a hit on a Kerry player in that 1981 final that would see him get a lengthy ban in this and age ?

On that day Kerry just got a free, no booking or anything for the offender.

The one whose nephew is a superstar golfer?;)

No John Smalls back in those days evidently...

blanch152 wrote: »

Offaly also played Kerry in the All-Ireland semi in 1980. It is why some think Tyrone are the team that will beat Dublin.

Offaly lost a semi, then a final, before beating Kerry.

The likes of Tyrone, Galway, Monaghan could play Dublin the next five AIFs and never get near beating them. Mayo and Kerry are the only two teams with the potential to topple the Dubs next year. On the other hand it's perfectly possible (especially if they get the managerial appointments wrong) that neither will reach the last eight...

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

I thought that was common knowledge? I certainly always knew that, even when I was a kid.

82 All-Ireland is the first one I remember. Pretty large gaps in my knowledge before that I'm afraid...

Looks like a new home jersey is on the way. Oneills have pulled the current jersey from their website and a "coming soon" banner put in its place

charlie14 wrote: »

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

The likes of Tyrone, Galway, Monaghan could play Dublin the next five AIFs and never get near beating them. Mayo and Kerry are the only two teams with the potential to topple the Dubs next year. On the other hand it's perfectly possible (especially if they get the managerial appointments wrong) that neither will reach the last eight...

With Mayo having ran them closest in the last few years and with Kerry having won the last 5 minor AI`s in a row it would seem to indicate that they are the two teams with the most potential to beat Dublin.
Where I would see a problem for both in the near future is that it may be some time before Kerry can bring on those minors to senior to even challenge Dublin let alone beat them. Especially when you consider that for all their underage talent they have not even appeared in an AI U 21 final since 2008. Since 2011 when Dublin went on this run AI senior run they have won U21 three times, Galway twice, Mayo, Tyrone and Kildare (U20) one each..  

For Mayo the problem I would see, in the short term at leas,t is that they need to find a full back, at least one more defender, a mid fielder, at least one more scoring forward as well to seriously strengthen their bench.
Not impossible, but can Mayo do that in the seamless way that Dublin can when you consider the seamless introduction over just the past two years with the likes of O`Callaghan, Howard and Murchan  ?

On the kerry U21 point. I think that is largely down to Kerry not caring about U21 success (IMO). They showed that this year by keeping O'Shea( I believe he was eligible this year) and Clifford from the U20. Do you think that Mayo or Kildare team had anything capable of dealing with David Clifford? I don't! 

I don't think Mayo or Kerry for that matter have the depth to create the environment that is producing players like Howard and Murchan sadly. But we do have things to look forward to this year once we get a manager sorted. 
Hanley and James Durcan showed potential last year and hopefully they get a run in the league. (Both forwards, Durcan has showed he can score)
I really thought Caolan Crowe put in a good shift against McBrearty in the league when Donegal had everything to lose. ( fullback maybe?)
Diarmuid O'Connor showed in the kildare game that he belongs in Midfield. Not sure who to put in there along with him though. 
The U20 panel have some very good footballers, albeit, not that big, but there is potential there that I also hope gets a run in either the FBD league and the Allianz league

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

oh and a manager and backroom team, what’s the latest rumour on that?

Paddy Power just suspended betting. Not sure if that's an indication that something's afoot.

PressRun wrote: »

Paddy Power just suspended betting. Not sure if that's an indication that something's afoot.

As long as Jack O'Connor waits where he is, I will be glad. I hope Horan or Solan or the two together get the gig and more importantly want it

PressRun wrote: »

Paddy Power just suspended betting. Not sure if that's an indication that something's afoot.

I'd imagine it's just a case of liability limits being reached, it'll be up again shortly