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Using DeGiro

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  • #152
    sham09
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭sham09


    Guys, I want to buy Facebook shares using my Degiro account. When I search for "Facebook" or "FB" in Degiro I am getting multiple options. I presume I should be looking at the main stock traded on the NASDAQ (number 2 on the attached list)- can anyone give me a steer? Screenshot attached for ref. Cheers!noAy18


  • #153
    Taylor365
    Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    sham09 wrote: »
    Guys, I want to buy Facebook shares using my Degiro account. When I search for "Facebook" or "FB" in Degiro I am getting multiple options. I presume I should be looking at the main stock traded on the NASDAQ (number 2 on the attached list)- can anyone give me a steer? Screenshot attached for ref. Cheers!noAy18
    No screenshot here.


    Search FB. That is the ticker you should be buying in USD if you want Facebook shares.


  • #154
    dickface
    Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭dickface


    sham09 wrote: »
    Guys, I want to buy Facebook shares using my Degiro account. When I search for "Facebook" or "FB" in Degiro I am getting multiple options. I presume I should be looking at the main stock traded on the NASDAQ (number 2 on the attached list)- can anyone give me a steer? Screenshot attached for ref. Cheers!noAy18

    The one that just says Facebook, not the one that has CFD in the name


  • #155
    TiGeR KiNgS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭TiGeR KiNgS


    Does DeGiro pay interest on cash balances ?

    The website is clear as mud when it comes to this.


    https://www.degiro.ie/helpcenter/faq/safety/1125#2148/how-is-my-money-kept-with-degiro


  • #156
    dickface
    Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭dickface


    TiGeR KiNgS wrote: »
    Does DeGiro pay interest on cash balances ?

    The website is clear as mud when it comes to this.


    https://www.degiro.ie/helpcenter/faq/safety/1125#2148/how-is-my-money-kept-with-degiro

    Yes but it's currently negative :)


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  • #157
    zl1whqvjs75cdy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    Hello all. Just finding my feet with degiro so please be gentle.

    I've managed to make a trade using the limit order function so happy with that bit. My question is if I wanted to buy say an apple share at 1000 quid, do I have to have a 1000 in my account, or can I pay a portion of a share. I can't seem to get that to work.

    Also, with regards to dividends, how do you specify in degiro what you want done with them. Ideally I would like them reinvested without having to worry about it. Thanks.


  • #158
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »
    Hello all. Just finding my feet with degiro so please be gentle.

    I've managed to make a trade using the limit order function so happy with that bit. My question is if I wanted to buy say an apple share at 1000 quid, do I have to have a 1000 in my account, or can I pay a portion of a share. I can't seem to get that to work.

    Also, with regards to dividends, how do you specify in degiro what you want done with them. Ideally I would like them reinvested without having to worry about it. Thanks.

    You have to buy full shares. You can't buy a portion of a share. DeGiro will just put the dividends into your account. There is no re-investment option with them.


  • #159
    gavmcg92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,317 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    TiGeR KiNgS wrote: »
    Does DeGiro pay interest on cash balances ?

    The website is clear as mud when it comes to this.


    https://www.degiro.ie/helpcenter/faq/safety/1125#2148/how-is-my-money-kept-with-degiro

    Recent email I got from them. Currently negative interest rates with Degiro compensating for the loss at the moment.
    New money market funds

    As you know, DEGIRO does not hold the money of clients. Your funds are automatically invested into money market funds. In order to avoid a potential misinterpretation of the new regulation, DEGIRO has deemed it best to also offer money market funds that are managed by an administrator outside of the holding of which DEGIRO is also a part. Therefore, we will add the money market funds of Morgan Stanley Investment Management, funds which are significantly larger in size compared to the current money market funds, to serve this purpose. Morgan Stanley is one of the biggest business banks worldwide and the Morgan Stanley Liquidity Funds are qualified money market funds with an AAA rating.

    In the upcoming weeks, there will be a task added to your account, requesting your approval for the Morgan Stanley Liquidity Funds as a replacement to the current FundShare money market funds.

    What are the consequences?
    As soon as the task is available in your account, we will inform you via email. As the return of the funds can develop differently, your choice for this task is important for your results. Additionally, there will be a different compensation structure for the EUR money market funds:

    Full compensation: Morgan Stanley Euro money market fund
    If you choose to invest in the Morgan Stanley Liquidity Funds, any possible negative return of the Morgan Stanley EUR Liquidity Fund will be compensated by DEGIRO.

    Providing the compensation is done on a fully voluntary basis by DEGIRO and is done only for the negative result as a consequence of the current interest rate. DEGIRO is not obligated to do so and can change or cancel the compensation at any time. DEGIRO will certainly notify you in timely fashion about possible changes.

    No compensation: FundShare Euro money market fund
    With the addition of the money market funds from Morgan Stanly Investment Management, DEGIRO has decided to no longer compensate the negative returns of the FundShare money market funds.
    The aforementioned changes will come into effect two weeks after the task appears in your account.

    In addition
    If you qualify for compensation, it will be paid out to you on a quarterly basis. Depending on whether your DEGIRO account balance is negative or positive, this compensation will be paid to you as a deposit on your trading account or as a direct money transfer to your nominated bank account, respectively. This will be the case for money market funds in all currencies. We want to stress that DEGIRO, as well as the holding company behind DEGIRO, in no way receives any (financial) benefits (inducement) from Morgan Stanley Investment Management for the selection of these money market funds.


  • #160
    q85dw7osi4lebg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Anyone else having issues transferring via Trustly from AIB? Has worked for the past year but getting an error message today.


  • #161
    towger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭towger


    Porter Vast Silk wrote: »
    Anyone else having issues transferring via Trustly from AIB? Has worked for the past year but getting an error message today.

    Used AIB and Trustly last week, no issue.


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  • #162
    Daveone
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭Daveone


    gavmcg92 wrote: »
    Recent email I got from them. Currently negative interest rates with Degiro compensating for the loss at the moment.

    Can anyone translate this to English for the laymen among us?


  • #163
    gavmcg92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,317 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    Daveone wrote: »
    Can anyone translate this to English for the laymen among us?

    The cash balance that you currently hold with Degiro is invested in a cash fund and is not sitting in a bank account. If the performance of that fund declines below your current cash balance figure, Degiro compensate you for the loss.

    If you log onto the platform you should be given a choice. Stay in the Degiro cash fund and lose this compensation option (i.e. if their cash fund performs poorly, you will bear the brunt of this loss) or move your cash balance over to a Morgan Stanley cash fund and retain the compensation option.

    Yeah sorry, negative interest rates don't come into it at all really.

    I got this option today. Wouldn't allow me to continue without making a decision. Seems like a no brainer for me to go with the Morgan Stanley fund. Only have a hundred or so quid in cash.


  • #164
    RedRebel92
    Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭RedRebel92


    Looking to upgrade my account to an active account, has anyone does this? Is there fees for being an active account or anything like that?


  • #165
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    gavmcg92 wrote: »
    The cash balance that you currently hold with Degiro is invested in a cash fund and is not sitting in a bank account. If the performance of that fund declines below your current cash balance figure, Degiro compensate you for the loss.

    If you log onto the platform you should be given a choice. Stay in the Degiro cash fund and lose this compensation option (i.e. if their cash fund performs poorly, you will bear the brunt of this loss) or move your cash balance over to a Morgan Stanley cash fund and retain the compensation option.

    Yeah sorry, negative interest rates don't come into it at all really.

    I got this option today. Wouldn't allow me to continue without making a decision. Seems like a no brainer for me to go with the Morgan Stanley fund. Only have a hundred or so quid in cash.

    What if the cash fund performs well?

    Are there any extra charges if you agree to transfer over to Morgan Stanley? Like would the transfer be seamless and you could just carry on as normal without really noticing?

    Edit: I was albe to click the 'worry about it later' button and get in to my account today.


  • #166
    gavmcg92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,317 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    evolving_doors wrote: »
    What if the cash fund performs well?

    Are there any extra charges if you agree to transfer over to Morgan Stanley? Like would the transfer be seamless and you could just carry on as normal without really noticing?

    Edit: I was albe to click the 'worry about it later' button and get in to my account today.

    It's just like any other share or ETF that you are invested in. The value of your "cash" goes up.

    Morgan Stanley Money Market Funds|Return per June 2018|Compensation|Return for client after changes
    EUR|-0.51%|0.51%|0%
    USD|+2.05%|0%|+2.05%
    GBP|+0.45%|0%|+0.45%


    FundShare Money Market Funds|Return per June 2018|Compensation|Return for client after changes
    EUR|-0.642%|0%|-0.642%
    USD|+2.058%|0%|+2.058%
    GBP|+0.462%|0%|+0.462%



    So essentially if you didn't move over to the Morgan Stanley cash fund for June (if the compensation was over at that point) your euro cash balance would be 0.642% less than what it was at the start of the month.

    What costs are associated with a money market fund?
    There are no costs associated with the buying and selling of participations in the money market funds. The management fee for the money market funds is included in the fund return. More information about the compensation for a negative return as a result of management costs and negative market interest can be found below.


    So based on the above you can see that Morgan Stanley are probably taking a minuscule bit off the top but by making the change over to them you are protecting yourself against the downside of loosing out on the compensation payments that we have now lost with Degiros money market funds.


    https://www.degiro.ie/about-degiro/cashfunds.html?utm_campaign=website&utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email


  • #167
    tod1982
    Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭tod1982


    I want to include a stop loss when buying, how do I do this on DeGiro? My understanding of a stop loss was that I set a price at which I wanted to sell if it fell to that level. Is this not correct?
    I am trying to buy a stock that has a current price of $9.90 - i put stop loss price as $9.00 and quantity of shares as 100. 
    I got an error to say that 9000 was less than current bid of 9900
    Can anyone explain how to complete a stop loss order on DeGiro?
    Thanks


  • #168
    Skelet0n
    Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭Skelet0n


    tod1982 wrote: »
    I want to include a stop loss when buying, how do I do this on DeGiro? My understanding of a stop loss was that I set a price at which I wanted to sell if it fell to that level. Is this not correct?
    I am trying to buy a stock that has a current price of $9.90 - i put stop loss price as $9.00 and quantity of shares as 100. 
    I got an error to say that 9000 was less than current bid of 9900
    Can anyone explain how to complete a stop loss order on DeGiro?
    Thanks

    You don't put a stop loss on when buying, you put it on once you own it.


  • #169
    gavmcg92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,317 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    tod1982 wrote: »
    I want to include a stop loss when buying, how do I do this on DeGiro? My understanding of a stop loss was that I set a price at which I wanted to sell if it fell to that level. Is this not correct?
    I am trying to buy a stock that has a current price of $9.90 - i put stop loss price as $9.00 and quantity of shares as 100. 
    I got an error to say that 9000 was less than current bid of 9900
    Can anyone explain how to complete a stop loss order on DeGiro?
    Thanks

    Are you buying or selling? You have used both in your comment above.

    To me it sounds like you want to place a Limit Buy Order. With your limit set at $9. When the stock drops from $9.90 to $9, Degiro will do their best to settle your order before the duration that you have set.

    A stop loss is for when you currently hold a position and you're selling or else you are shorting a stock that you want to buy back.


  • #170
    Wheety
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,512 ✭✭✭Wheety


    I've gone to use Trustly a couple of times but always stopped when it got to the stage of them asking for my Ulsterbank log in details. Are they safe?

    I've ended up just sending money myself from Ulsterbank and waiting the couple of days.

    What happens if you deposit more than €200 too? I tend to put €1k in at a time.


  • #171
    q85dw7osi4lebg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Wheety wrote: »
    I've gone to use Trustly a couple of times but always stopped when it got to the stage of them asking for my Ulsterbank log in details. Are they safe?

    I've ended up just sending money myself from Ulsterbank and waiting the couple of days.

    What happens if you deposit more than €200 too? I tend to put €1k in at a time.

    I use it every few days, it's safe. For the larger amounts the standard transfer is better (and cheaper).


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  • #172
    Wheety
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,512 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Porter Vast Silk wrote: »
    I use it every few days, it's safe. For the larger amounts the standard transfer is better (and cheaper).

    I just find it strange and against every bone in my body which says not to share banking log in details.

    It asks for my online id and password and a specific 2 numbers from my passcode. Why do they need to actually log into my account to transfer money? If my account was emptied, I'd feel pretty stupid asking Ulsterbank to refund it. Their first question would be if I gave my log in details to anyone else.


  • #173
    Kuva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Kuva


    Wheety wrote: »
    I just find it strange and against every bone in my body which says not to share banking log in details.

    It asks for my online id and password and a specific 2 numbers from my passcode. Why do they need to actually log into my account to transfer money? If my account was emptied, I'd feel pretty stupid asking Ulsterbank to refund it. Their first question would be if I gave my log in details to anyone else.

    Never in a month of Sundays would I, neither should you.


  • #174
    Taylor365
    Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    Wheety wrote: »
    I just find it strange and against every bone in my body which says not to share banking log in details.

    It asks for my online id and password and a specific 2 numbers from my passcode. Why do they need to actually log into my account to transfer money? If my account was emptied, I'd feel pretty stupid asking Ulsterbank to refund it. Their first question would be if I gave my log in details to anyone else.
    That's Verify by Visa, not Trustly...


  • #175
    Wheety
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,512 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Taylor365 wrote: »
    That's Verify by Visa, not Trustly...
    Nope.

    u2tsFUl.jpg

    xXxiypJ.jpg

    Giving this information would allow someone to log into my bank account.


  • #176
    Pussyhands
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    I have 3 euro in my cash fund. What exactly is that?


  • #177
    dubliner999
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭dubliner999


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    I have 3 euro in my cash fund. What exactly is that?

    Dividends?


  • #178
    Pussyhands
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    dubliner999 wrote: »
    Dividends?

    How do I spend it?


  • #179
    Sabre Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    I don't think it's dividends. My cash fund is my cash balance.


  • #180
    Pussyhands
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Sabre Man wrote: »
    I don't think it's dividends. My cash fund is my cash balance.

    i have cash fund of 3.16 and available to trade of 3.53


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  • #181
    Pussyhands
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Another question.I am trying to lodge funds for the first time since my initial deposit. The BIC is slightly different on the address now...but it uses the same name and says I can't add the payee again. If I send to the other address will it send?


  • #182
    Taylor365
    Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    Another question.I am trying to lodge funds for the first time since my initial deposit. The BIC is slightly different on the address now...but it uses the same name and says I can't add the payee again. If I send to the other address will it send?
    Did you deposit before they changed their lodging account?


  • #183
    Pussyhands
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Taylor365 wrote: »
    Did you deposit before they changed their lodging account?

    Yes,about a month or 6 weeks ago.


  • #184
    Sabre Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    You need to use these details now:
    Name of beneficiary: Stichting DEGIRO
    Account number: NL37DEUT0319825019
    IBAN: NL37DEUT0319825019
    BIC: DEUTNL2A
    Bank Name: Deutsche Bank AG
    Address: De Entree 195, 1101 HE Amsterdam, Netherlands

    So just delete the old payee as it's obsolete.


  • #185
    gavmcg92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,317 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    How do I spend it?

    It's 3 euro, what do you plan on spending 3 euro on? :D


  • #186
    gavmcg92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,317 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    Sabre Man wrote: »
    You need to use these details now:
    Name of beneficiary: Stichting DEGIRO
    Account number: NL37DEUT0319825019
    IBAN: NL37DEUT0319825019
    BIC: DEUTNL2A
    Bank Name: Deutsche Bank AG
    Address: De Entree 195, 1101 HE Amsterdam, Netherlands

    So just delete the old payee as it's obsolete.

    You also have to make the transfer from the registered bank account that you have on file with them. If you don't, the funds will be returned.


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  • #187
    Pussyhands
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    gavmcg92 wrote: »
    It's 3 euro, what do you plan on spending 3 euro on? :D

    Penny stock :D


  • #188
    thefa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭thefa


    Has anybody else come across the Choice of Money Market Fund question with the deadline of the 15th this month?

    I don’t fully understand what is being asked. What is the better option?


  • #189
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    thefa wrote: »
    Has anybody else come across the Choice of Money Market Fund question with the deadline of the 15th this month?

    I don’t fully understand what is being asked. What is the better option?

    discussed in this thread from post 159 on
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107691131&postcount=159


  • #190
    gavmcg92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,317 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    thefa wrote: »
    Has anybody else come across the Choice of Money Market Fund question with the deadline of the 15th this month?

    I don’t fully understand what is being asked. What is the better option?

    To keep it as simple as possible, If you haven't done anything up until this point your cash balance was automatically invested in Degiro's money fund. If the fund performed negatively, Degiro compensated you so as to make sure you never lost money in it.

    I would imagine they don't want to hold cash funds anymore and so they are trying to entice clients to move their cash out of Degiro. What they are asking you now is do you want to keep your money with their fund or move it over to a money fund by Morgan Stanley. To encourage you to make this move, they are no longer going to compensate you if you stay with them. If the Degiro cash fund performs badly, that loss will be passed onto you. This compensation deal will instead move over to the Morgan Stanley fund.


  • #191
    MAJJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭MAJJ


    gavmcg92 wrote: »
    To keep it as simple as possible, If you haven't done anything up until this point your cash balance was automatically invested in Degiro's money fund. If the fund performed negatively, Degiro compensated you so as to make sure you never lost money in it.

    I would imagine they don't want to hold cash funds anymore and so they are trying to entice clients to move their cash out of Degiro. What they are asking you now is do you want to keep your money with their fund or move it over to a money fund by Morgan Stanley. To encourage you to make this move, they are no longer going to compensate you if you stay with them. If the Degiro cash fund performs badly, that loss will be passed onto you. This compensation deal will instead move over to the Morgan Stanley fund.

    Thanks as I had the same question, so you know if they can automatically send the cash from dividends straight to my bank a/c so little cash builds up in Degiro


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  • #192
    gavmcg92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,317 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    MAJJ wrote: »
    Thanks as I had the same question, so you know if they can automatically send the cash from dividends straight to my bank a/c so little cash builds up in Degiro

    I don't believe you can automatically do this but you can login and withdrawal on a regular basis.


  • #193
    Live at Three
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭Live at Three


    Sorry if this has been explained before, but can anyone tell me why my daily difference doesn't correspond with total? For example, I'm up around 10 euro today since I checked this time yesterday (around 10pm) but my dashboard says down 7 euro.


  • #194
    Wheety
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,512 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Live at Three wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been explained before, but can anyone tell me why my daily difference doesn't correspond with total? For example, I'm up around 10 euro today since I checked this time yesterday (around 10pm) but my dashboard says down 7 euro.
    You make any transactions?


  • #195
    Live at Three
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭Live at Three


    Wheety wrote: »
    You make any transactions?

    No.


  • #196
    Live at Three
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭Live at Three


    Live at Three wrote: »
    No.

    Is it something to do with after hours values, or the fact that some of the shares are US and some European, opening and closing at different times?


  • #197
    Skelet0n
    Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭Skelet0n


    Live at Three wrote: »
    No.

    Currency fluctuations?


  • #198
    Taylor365
    Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    Skelet0n wrote: »
    Currency fluctuations?
    Yes.


    US shares in USD.


    You in EUR.


    Bing bong!


    USD does good, your investments go up :)

    USD do bad, your investments go down :(


    Also works for if you see shares actually go down but you are in the green - this means USD had a better day against the EUR.


  • #199
    gavmcg92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,317 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    Live at Three wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been explained before, but can anyone tell me why my daily difference doesn't correspond with total? For example, I'm up around 10 euro today since I checked this time yesterday (around 10pm) but my dashboard says down 7 euro.

    Do you mean daily difference vs total difference? Daily is how you did during market hours for that day whereas total is how you have done over the lifetime of your account.


  • #200
    Live at Three
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭Live at Three


    Taylor365 wrote: »
    Yes.


    US shares in USD.


    You in EUR.


    Bing bong!


    USD does good, your investments go up :)

    USD do bad, your investments go down :(


    Also works for if you see shares actually go down but you are in the green - this means USD had a better day against the EUR.


    Both totals are quoted in Euros though, regardless of the dollar value it should correspond to overall earnings no?

    For example, day difference might say down 10 euro but total difference appears to be 10 or 15 euro higher. I'll wait till it happens again and post back when I've a good example.

    In other words, the day difference seems unreliable compared to total difference.


  • #201
    dickface
    Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭dickface


    Live at Three wrote: »
    Both totals are quoted in Euros though, regardless of the dollar value it should correspond to overall earnings no?

    For example, day difference might say down 10 euro but total difference appears to be 10 or 15 euro higher. I'll wait till it happens again and post back when I've a good example.

    In other words, the day difference seems unreliable compared to total difference.

    Read the post above yours for the answer


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