Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

erica74 · 30-08-2018 08:23AM

Melendez wrote: »

You lied and made up a reason to further vilify her, and when you are caught out you deflect and wait for the troops to rally round with the high-fives. Just about the standard of posting to be expected. What a horrible reflection on human nature this thread is.

I lied?

erica74 wrote: »

Someone from the Simon Community on the radio just said

:rolleyes:

What percentage of the population really really can't afford to rent?
What percentage of the population really really have nowhere to go if they can't afford to rent and don't own their own place?
Actually, I'd love to see actual figures on that. You see the likes of Cash who want a house near their mother but their mother would rather see them "homeless" than put them up while they find alternative accommodation.

Cash and others like her always have some nonsense reason for wanting to stay in one area and not accept accommodation anywhere else and they usually say it's to be near family. Her litter of children should be her priority.

I'm not waiting for high fives. I couldn't care less who agrees with me. I'm participating in a discussion, a very important discussion, which highlights the need for everyone to pay their own way and not leech off taxpayers.

Mongfinder General · 30-08-2018 08:24AM

Melendez wrote: »

You lied and made up a reason to further vilify her, and when you are caught out you deflect and wait for the troops to rally round with the high-fives. Just about the standard of posting to be expected. What a horrible reflection on human nature this thread is.

YOU and your like are the problem. Not the majority of posters on this thread.

Wheeliebin30 · 30-08-2018 08:34AM

I want a house in Dalkey because it would be better for my anxiety and stress levels.

Should I do homeless and demand it???

D3V!L · 30-08-2018 08:35AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

I want a house in Dalkey because it would be better for my anxiety and stress levels.

Should I do homeless and demand it???

Do you feel you're entitled to it ?

30-08-2018 08:41AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

The irrational mind cannot be rationed with

well aint that the truth wanderer

Seth Brundle · 30-08-2018 08:43AM

Iwouldinmesack wrote: »

Her mother has passed away recently i think and she wants a house near her grave not her house.

Isn't it nice to be able to dictate terms when you're in need?

I grew up aware of the term "beggars can't be choosers". Obviously that philosophy is redundant nowadays!

Wheeliebin30 · 30-08-2018 08:46AM

D3V!L wrote: »

Do you feel you're entitled to it ?

I didn’t but watching the news lately now I do.

30-08-2018 08:47AM

Iwouldinmesack wrote: »

Her mother has passed away recently i think and she wants a house near her grave not her house.

I thought that she was reared by an aunt?

D3V!L · 30-08-2018 08:47AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

I didn’t but watching the news lately now I do.

Me too !! Myself and the missus have been saving for a deposit for the last year. FOR WHAT !!

Could have gotten a free house at this stage.

corks finest · 30-08-2018 08:50AM

Grab All Association wrote: »

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

This 10,000 homeless people is an absolute farce,

Let’s audit each of them like every self employed person is in this country and see what comes back.

Leeches.

It’s higher than your thinking but it’s nobody with children. True homelessness is the young single men squatting in derelict buildings, sheds and near river banks that I’ve seen in Thurles and Nenagh throughout the past 20-30 years. Tragically one lost his life in a fire recently. He was earlier that evening turned away from the local homeless action.

In this gynocentric society of ours men are bottom of the list when it comes to housing and healthcare. Just walk around any large town in this country and you’ll come across homeless men with severe mental health/drug problems in sleeping bags. Meanwhile if you have the ability to give birth to children you’re almost guaranteed an unlimited income for life. Let them run feral with bad teeth and sugary snacks, sit on your ass and spend it on drink/car insurance/wedding etc. They’re certainly not spending it on healthy food, childrens education or clothing.

FG*/FF/SF*/Rte/indo will defend you in the mainstream media.

* to be fair to Sinn Féin and Fine Gael, at a local town/county council level some of their councilors share a lot of our views. These are a minority though.

Some hery good honest,but unpopular points,well said

30-08-2018 08:51AM

Melendez wrote: »

I'm just pointing out that someone is peddling lies

I have to laugh at this comment, Melendez. You have been quick to jump on posters that could see what Cash was up to.

I haven’t seen you acknowledge that Cash has been peddling lies though.

Edgware · 30-08-2018 09:06AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

I want a house in Dalkey because it would be better for my anxiety and stress levels.

Should I do homeless and demand it???

Give the "Nations sweetheart" Miriam a call. I'm sure she had some pals that could help you

Hammer Archer · 30-08-2018 09:10AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

There's nothing nonsense about that, it relates to our emotional connections as human beings, it cannot be rationalised

My dad is buried in the town I grew up in (close to Dublin). My wife and I couldn't afford to buy anywhere close to this town so we bought a place 45 minutes away which constitutes a huge commute for both of us. You saying I should have kicked and screamed in order to be provided with a house close to my father's grave? Where we are now, I get to see my daughter for a max of 2 hours a day (less if there's heavy traffic).
Something tells me that if her mother was buried in Longford, she wouldn't be demanding a house there.

Regarding Traveler education, my wife is a social worker. A good while back she was involved with a Traveler mother who actually went above and beyond in trying to get her kids an education (buying their books, getting them there on time every day). Her reward? She was mercilessly beaten by her husband, his family and her family and both her and her kids had to be housed in a refuge.

This whole incident is making me rethink donating to homeless charities. I've donated and organized events to help raise thousands for them over the years but if they're not going to call out the obviously bullsh!t "homeless" cases, then I don't feel comfortable spending time and money donating to them.

Melendez · 30-08-2018 09:15AM

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Wanderer78 · 30-08-2018 09:16AM

Hammer Archer wrote:

My dad is buried in the town I grew up in (close to Dublin). My wife and I couldn't afford to buy anywhere close to this town so we bought a place 45 minutes away which constitutes a huge commute for both of us. You saying I should have kicked and screamed in order to be provided with a house close to my father's grave? Where we are now, I get to see my daughter for a max of 2 hours a day (less if there's heavy traffic). Something tells me that if her mother was buried in Longford, she wouldn't be demanding a house there.

Not at all, it's important to realise, no two lives are the same, we do not have equality of opportunity in life, this is probably not entirely possible. We are trying to rationalise irrational human behaviour, this in fact cannot be done

30-08-2018 09:22AM

Melendez wrote: »

There are enough people doing that, quite unnecessarily. There has never been any doubt who she is or what she was trying to achieve from about page 4. Yet people still seem to take enormous pleasure in repeating it ad nauseum to confirm their own superiority, make up even darker slants on what she is doing to make her seem worse (and therefore make you feel even more superior) and hypothisise about situations in which she would be even more evil. It's about time for another round of speculation about the state of her vagina and the certainty of her children being criminals to liven up the party. I'm sure her children will enjoy reading about that. Ah yes, it's all great fun.

So you don’t think it’s necessary to acknowledge that she’s lied. Gotcha.

The Bishop Basher · 30-08-2018 09:23AM

Melendez wrote: »

It's about time for another round of speculation about the state of her vagina and the certainty of her children being criminals to liven up the party. I'm sure her children will enjoy reading about that. Ah yes, it's all great fun.

We get to speculate all we want when we have to pay for her poor choices and her soon to be feral scrotes.

jjmcclure · 30-08-2018 09:24AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Not at all, it's important to realise, no two lives are the same, we do not have equality of opportunity in life, this is probably not entirely possible. We are trying to rationalise irrational human behaviour, this in fact cannot be done

Your point is poorly made.

It is up to the controls of the welfare system, a system paid for by the tax payer, to rationalise irrational behavior.

IF a claimant is being irrational their irrational request should be refused.

Melendez · 30-08-2018 09:30AM

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30-08-2018 09:46AM

Melendez wrote: »

For whose benefit would you be pointing it out, when the truth of the situation is obvious to everybody? It is purely to make yourself feel superior.

You called her single in some of your posts. Her husband is now back living with her and the reason he wasn’t living with her at the time of the Tallaght photo was only due to the fact that he was in prison. Why is it so difficult for you to acknowledge that what you believed at the time was incorrect?

My issue has been that the media and some homeless charities have made her their poster girl for homelessness without checking out her story. I believe this has done more harm than good to the homeless crisis as those who are truly struggling will now, through no fault of their own, be catergorised as playing the system as Ms Cash has done.

What do you think?

Melendez · 30-08-2018 10:07AM

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deaddonkey15 · 30-08-2018 10:22AM

Melendez wrote: »

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I'd be surprised if they were able to read to be honest.

Dannyriver · 30-08-2018 11:03AM

Melendez wrote: »

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Fine summation of the thread and the topic at hand well done Melendez

Wanderer78 · 30-08-2018 11:14AM

jjmcclure wrote: »

Your point is poorly made.

It is up to the controls of the welfare system, a system paid for by the tax payer, to rationalise irrational behavior.

IF a claimant is being irrational their irrational request should be refused.

if that 'rational' decision was made, would it solve the overall issue?

dominatinMC · 30-08-2018 11:25AM

Dannyriver wrote: »

Fine summation of the thread and the topic at hand well done Melendez

Nice deflection of the real issue here. That issue being that Margaret Cash is fraudulently abusing the social welfare system, and using the current homelessness crisis for her own personal gain. In an era of "post-truth", "fake news", etc. these are the facts.

Now I can't speak on behalf of all posters here, but I would say that the majority of people are posting here to vent some anger. Anger at the lack of balanced reporting on this Margaret Cash case, anger at the liberal dole culture in this country - which Margaret Cash epitomizes. But I would argue that it is, above all, anger at the political system and the resistance to change. I doubt that people are posting on here to "confirm their own superiority" as Melendez suggested.

Chinasea · 30-08-2018 11:26AM

Melendez wrote: »

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The "superiority" adjective I find offensive. I find it a cheap and lazy shot also.

I do not want my taxes to go anyway in helping supporting / sponsoring Ms Cash's irresponsible dysfunctional lifestyle. I am neither superior nor inferior.

Our national media are letting us down. Pertinent questions representing hard pressed working people who take personal responsibility ARE NOT being asked.

Sweet.Science · 30-08-2018 11:28AM

Surely she is the one who thinks she is superior.

She feels she doesnt have to work but is entitled to a free house and income ?

Igotadose · 30-08-2018 11:39AM

The reason her kids will read the condemnations of their mother online, was her DECISION to make their plight public. Now they're all immortalized .

tretorn · 30-08-2018 11:52AM

None of the young hardworking people in my locality will ever afford to be able to live where they grew up. Most wouldnt even be able to afford to rent a single bedroom in a house.

The Council owned a small site and they built small duplex apartments on it and gave them to people on social housing. They could have sold this site and built ten times as many houses in an area where land isnt at a premium. This makes no sense and nor does local authorities paying three hundred thousand for one semi detached house to give to a travelling family who more than likely will wreck the property if it isnt exactly where they want to live. The travellers want to live beside their own extended families and this would be grand if they bought sites no one else wants and set up home there. The problem is they want to live in urban areas with their extended families all around them but they want the taxpayer to pay for this.

The Government needs to take the bulls by the horn and tell Ms Cash she can do what working class people do, move far from job and family if you cant afford to live in a particular area. They can allocate her a house and tell her thats it and refuse to deal with her further. There are plenty of houses in rural locations that are a few minutes walk to a school or at worst a short drive. There should be no further interaction with Ms Cash once a property is identified and she should be barred from entering anymore Garda stations for photo opportunities.

Is there any other country in Europe where this sort of irresponsible carry on goes on. Im thinking of Romania but do the Roma get everything handed to them for free and do they have enormous families too.

dermo888 · 30-08-2018 11:54AM

Chinasea wrote: »

Melendez wrote: »

to confirm their own superiority.

I'm sure her children will enjoy reading about that. Ah yes, it's all great fun.

The "superiority" adjective I find offensive. I find it a cheap and lazy shot also.

I do not want my taxes to go anyway in helping supporting / sponsoring Ms Cash's irresponsible dysfunctional lifestyle. I am neither superior nor inferior.

Our national media are letting us down. Pertinent questions representing hard pressed working people who take personal responsibility ARE NOT being asked.

Exactly. There's the likes of us, who don't want to deal with the welfare system unless we are absolutely desperate, and then theres the likes of Ms Cash, who want it all the time.

Her children had better get used to sleeping in Garda stations, because - I hate saying it, thats whats ahead, and Ms Cash, with 7 children won't be able to control them. I've seen it before.

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