Marian Finucane

jobbridge4life · 25-08-2018 06:32PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

No, I am not, but from the media reaction and exposure one could be forgiven for believing that almost everyone in this country was touched by a priest.

A bit of balance mightened go amiss.

A bit of restraint from the slavering media might put a more realistic cant on things.

Too many airheads and blowhards with vested issues getting listened to when the vast majority of our faith,whilst still not happy with things, understand that efforts are being made

1. What efforts? Specifically.

2. Efforts? At this late stage?

3. AND ABOVE ALL ELSE. The rape of children is not something to be balanced. It is something to be prosecuted without compunction.

Brendan Bendar · 25-08-2018 06:50PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

How can you achieve balance when it comes to sexual abuse and it's cover up?

That post has nothing to do with what I said, again you try to put words into my mouth.

alaimacerc · 25-08-2018 08:19PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

How can you achieve balance when it comes to sexual abuse and it's cover up?

By not talking about it so much, seemingly, according to the delicate bruised feels of some reactionary elements.

alaimacerc · 25-08-2018 08:22PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Too many airheads and blowhards with vested issues getting listened to when the vast majority of our faith,whilst still not happy with things, understand that efforts are being made

Just to be clear, are you presuming here to speak for the former, or the latter?

yosser hughes · 26-08-2018 10:52AM

Paddy Agnew's comments about a 'gay mafia' in the Vatican were interesting.

Callan57 · 26-08-2018 11:05AM

Didn't hear all that discussion but it appears to me the only way anything will change in the RC church will be when people keep their money in their pockets. It's all about money & power and sadly nothing else

Brendan Bendar · 26-08-2018 11:43AM

yosser hughes wrote: »

Paddy Agnew's comments about a 'gay mafia' in the Vatican were interesting.

Is he with the Irish Times or freelance now.

Strange sort of chap,in this posters opinion.

Ursus Horribilis · 26-08-2018 11:45AM

He's freelance now as far as I know. And didn't end his time with the Irish Times on good terms. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/irish-times-in-court-fight-with-axed-reporter-plrhxpkm0

alaimacerc · 26-08-2018 11:46AM

Quite the proverbial airhead on at the moment. Feels especially Catholic now because she had a wanted child, and they lost the 8th amendment referendum?

alaimacerc · 26-08-2018 11:48AM

yosser hughes wrote: »

Paddy Agnew's comments about a 'gay mafia' in the Vatican were interesting.

Yeah. Hardly any surprise that not everyone in the curia is heterosexual, celibate, and strictly impartial in not favouring their friends. But bizarrely conspiratorial and loaded language.

Brendan Bendar · 26-08-2018 11:57AM

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

He's freelance now as far as I know. And didn't end his time with the Irish Times on good terms. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/irish-times-in-court-fight-with-axed-reporter-plrhxpkm0

Kind of gathered that, probably reached 65 or whatever and wouldn’t let go the soup tureen, now that’s just my opinion, know nothing about the lads background other than his largely stop start stacatto reports over the years.

Lovely lad I’m sure.

hotmail.com · 26-08-2018 12:10PM

Brendan Bendar wrote:

That post has nothing to do with what I said, again you try to put words into my mouth.

What did you mean then?

Brendan Bendar · 26-08-2018 12:39PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

No, I am not, but from the media reaction and exposure one could be forgiven for believing that almost everyone in this country was touched by a priest.

A bit of balance mightened go amiss.

A bit of restraint from the slavering media might put a more realistic cant on things.

Too many airheads and blowhards with vested issues getting listened to when the vast majority of our faith,whilst still not happy with things, understand that efforts are being made

hotmail.com wrote: »

What did you mean then?

Read the post, big man, it’s self explanatory.

C’mon keep up.

alaimacerc · 26-08-2018 12:45PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Read the post, big man, it’s self explanatory.

Indeed.

Your error here is imagining that it's also plausibly deniable.

batgoat · 26-08-2018 12:46PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

No, I am not, but from the media reaction and exposure one could be forgiven for believing that almost everyone in this country was touched by a priest.

A bit of balance mightened go amiss.

A bit of restraint from the slavering media might put a more realistic cant on things.

Too many airheads and blowhards with vested issues getting listened to when the vast majority of our faith,whilst still not happy with things, understand that efforts are being made

hotmail.com wrote: »

What did you mean then?

Read the post, big man, it’s self explanatory.

C’mon keep up.

Yep, you attempted to cheapen the fact abuse is being discussed... The reality is a lot of people in this country have been abused by the clergy. One hundred cases a week are reported to one in four at the moment. That's increased because of visit. Before the average was 30. So yes, a lot of people in Ireland were abused.

Brendan Bendar · 26-08-2018 01:14PM

batgoat wrote: »

Yep, you attempted to cheapen the fact abuse is being discussed... The reality is a lot of people in this country have been abused by the clergy. One hundred cases a week are reported to one in four at the moment. That's increased because of visit. Before the average was 30. So yes, a lot of people in Ireland were abused.

I attempted nothing of the kind.

What I attempted was to dis the popular media opinion the a huge percentage of the clergy were involved in abuse of one kind or another.

There was a hard core, a rump who indulged in that despicable practice, but implying that a large percentage were involved is pure backwardness.

That is not true,buddy, and you know that.

FrancieBrady · 26-08-2018 01:22PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

I attempted nothing of the kind.

What I attempted was to dis the popular media opinion the a huge percentage of the clergy were involved in abuse of one kind or another.

There was a hard core, a rump who indulged in that despicable practice, but implying that a large percentage were involved is pure backwardness.

That is not true,buddy, and you know that.

What media opinion says that a 'huge percentage of the clergy were involved in abuse'? Can you link to one?

I haven't heard anyone, even victims, claim that Brendy.

batgoat · 26-08-2018 01:26PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

batgoat wrote: »

Yep, you attempted to cheapen the fact abuse is being discussed... The reality is a lot of people in this country have been abused by the clergy. One hundred cases a week are reported to one in four at the moment. That's increased because of visit. Before the average was 30. So yes, a lot of people in Ireland were abused.

I attempted nothing of the kind.

What I attempted was to dis the popular media opinion the a huge percentage of the clergy were involved in abuse of one kind or another.

There was a hard core, a rump who indulged in that despicable practice, but implying that a large percentage were involved is pure backwardness.

That is not true,buddy, and you know that.

The top of the hierarchy organised a global cover up... That seems like a far bigger issue, you cannot be confident that the church will actually report abuse when it becomes known to them. And I do think there's a level of apologism when you ignore this or complain that it's being discussed.

hotmail.com · 26-08-2018 01:35PM

Brendan Bendar wrote:

What I attempted was to dis the popular media opinion the a huge percentage of the clergy were involved in abuse of one kind or another.

Brendan Bendar wrote:

There was a hard core, a rump who indulged in that despicable practice, but implying that a large percentage were involved is pure backwardness.

Nonsense. Whenever the issue of abuse is brought up, people always mention that there is good people in the Church.

batgoat · 26-08-2018 01:38PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Brendan Bendar wrote:

What I attempted was to dis the popular media opinion the a huge percentage of the clergy were involved in abuse of one kind or another.

Brendan Bendar wrote:

There was a hard core, a rump who indulged in that despicable practice, but implying that a large percentage were involved is pure backwardness.

Nonsense. Whenever the issue of abuse is brought up, people always mention that there is good people in the Church.

I would say the criticism are primarily directed at apologists and the upper hierarchy of the organisation.

Brendan Bendar · 26-08-2018 01:43PM

batgoat wrote: »

I would say the criticism are primarily directed at apologists and the upper hierarchy of the organisation.

And rightly so, but to imply that the cCatholic Church was infested with paedos, that the core was largely occupied by cretins who wanted access to children is not factual.

FrancieBrady · 26-08-2018 01:45PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

And rightly so, but to imply that the cCatholic Church was infested with paedos, that the core was largely occupied by cretins who wanted access to children is not factual.

Who in the media implied this Brendy? You have been asked for links.

batgoat · 26-08-2018 01:46PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

batgoat wrote: »

I would say the criticism are primarily directed at apologists and the upper hierarchy of the organisation.

And rightly so, but to imply that the cCatholic Church was infested with paedos, that the core was largely occupied by cretins who wanted access to children is not factual.

This was not implied on Marian or any other program. Most of the discussion is how the church handles abuse and enabled abusers.

hotmail.com · 26-08-2018 01:46PM

Brendan Bendar wrote:

And rightly so, but to imply that the cCatholic Church was infested with paedos, that the core was largely occupied by cretins who wanted access to children is not factual.

I think you're deliberately misunderstanding. About 5 or 6% of priests were abusers, but it was the cover up by the hierarchy is what is so concerning. The COVER UP.

Brendan Bendar · 26-08-2018 01:51PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Who in the media implied this Brendy? You have been asked for links.

Don’t know why you are confused Francie... did I say “who” in any media?

I said social media buddy.Y’ now ....social media....

All over the gaff.

FrancieBrady · 26-08-2018 01:55PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Don’t know why you are confused Francie... did I say “who” in any media?

I said social media buddy.Y’ now ....social media....

All over the gaff.

No you didn't Brendy. Caught out again. Ah well.

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

No, I am not, but from the media reaction and exposure one could be forgiven for believing that almost everyone in this country was touched by a priest.

A bit of balance mightened go amiss.

A bit of restraint from the slavering media might put a more realistic cant on things.

Too many airheads and blowhards with vested issues getting listened to when the vast majority of our faith,whilst still not happy with things, understand that efforts are being made

alaimacerc · 26-08-2018 01:56PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Don’t know why you are confused Francie... did I say “who” in any media?

Francie's not in the least confused, but evidently you're trying your best to do so. (Still not very good, mind you.)

This is a thread about the Marian Finucane show. At what point do you imagine you managed to successfully pivot to talking about social media, instead?

alaimacerc · 26-08-2018 01:58PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No you didn't Brendy. Caught out again. Ah well.

There was another post in which he said "popular media opinion". Presumably at no point during this trick did his fingers leave his hands. Or, that anyone was in the least bit impressed or convinced.

HeidiHeidi · 26-08-2018 04:48PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Kind of gathered that, probably reached 65 or whatever and wouldn’t let go the soup tureen, now that’s just my opinion, know nothing about the lads background other than his largely stop start stacatto reports over the years.

Lovely lad I’m sure.

If you admittedly "know nothing about the lad" or the manner of his departure from his employment, why speculate in such derogatory terms about him?

Brendan Bendar · 26-08-2018 04:59PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

If you admittedly "know nothing about the lad" or the manner of his departure from his employment, why speculate in such derogatory terms about him?

I didn’t say that, I said I know nothing about his background.

Please stop putting words in my mouth.

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