Should we protest against the pope's visit?

Deleted User wrote: »

I object to simply targeting the Church as if they were solely responsible for what happened. And I object to protesting the Popes visit because it's simply pissing on the day for Catholics who are in no way responsible for what happened.

So when Brendan Smyth was raping children who, appart from Brendan Smyth and the members of the catholic church management who helped him access more victims and evade justice, do you see as responsible?

Muahahaha wrote: »

I would imagine thats the kind of stuff that the Irish Catholic Churchs long serving solicitors Arthur Cox would sort out for them. Real bang of the Knight of Columbanus in that firm who mange thousands of properties on behalf of the Church. You could just imagine the phone call to Lloyds of London, "What?! How many children? Im just putting you on hold...."

Anyway a poem by Roddy McDevitt

A Prayer For The Pope on His Arrival In Ireland

As you munch the tarmac At Dublin Airport
Arse in the air
May you be shafted
Then and there
By a rampant pink bear
One cassock-slashing
Pelvis-cracking thrust
For every child your church tore to shreds
Reduced to quivering dread
Or left for dead…

May you be thrown back
On your plane
And flown to The Hague
To face trial for the plague
Of vicious misery
You inflicted on your flock
With evasions so vague…

Get in the dock Pops
Swear on the bible
The truth the whole truth
And nothing but the truth
So you and your paedophile
Stormtroopers at last
Face your victims
To confess to aplogise
To compensate and exorcise
The demons of your disgrace
Before being dragged to the cells
And left to rot in your Rome-made hells

Roddy McDevitt

What rubbish.

super_furry wrote: »

Well looking at the pathetic turnout for the pope, I'm not sure a protest is needed. Ignore them and they'll continue to go away.

Streets are packed and so is croke Park and apparently 500k (some sources say 600k) are to attend mass tomorrow. Oh and 45 k will attend the knock event.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Seth Brundle wrote: »

How can they clamp down on the protest bookings?

What’s this. 20 questions??

Ask them. I havnt a clue. I’m only telling you what they said.

Oh they say more than their payers now.

Great crowds out to see the pope.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Great crowds out to see the pope.

I am not surprised. The people aren't going to let thousands of abused kids stop them from having a nice day out.

Their spirits will get a little dampened tomorrow morning. The attitude of the masses explains how the whole thing happened in the first place.

Varadkar's Speech

“In place of Christian charity, forgiveness and compassion, far too often there was judgement, severity and cruelty, in particular towards women and children and those on the margins.

“Magdalene Laundries, Mother and Baby Homes, industrial schools, illegal adoptions and clerical child abuse are stains on our State, our society and also the Catholic Church.

“Wounds are still open and there is much to be done to bring about justice and truth and healing for victims and survivors.

“Holy Father, I ask that you use your office and influence to ensure this is done here in Ireland and across the world.“In place of Christian charity, forgiveness and compassion, far too often there was judgement, severity and cruelty, in particular towards women and children and those on the margins.

“Magdalene Laundries, Mother and Baby Homes, industrial schools, illegal adoptions and clerical child abuse are stains on our State, our society and also the Catholic Church.

“Wounds are still open and there is much to be done to bring about justice and truth and healing for victims and survivors.

“Holy Father, I ask that you use your office and influence to ensure this is done here in Ireland and across the world.

“In recent weeks, we have all listened to heart-breaking stories from Pennsylvania of brutal crimes perpetrated by people within the Catholic Church, and then obscured to protect the institution at the expense of innocent victims.

“It is a story all too tragically familiar here in Ireland.

“There can only be zero tolerance for those who abuse innocent children or who facilitate that abuse.

“We must now ensure that from words flow actions. Above all, Holy Father, I ask to you to listen to the victims.”

He should of added Do you think that I am "intrinsically disordered" ?

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Get over it

Many never will. The RC faith doesn't allow for changing your opinion or being open minded.

Deleted User wrote: »

And I object to protesting the Popes visit because it's simply pissing on the day for Catholics who are in no way responsible for what happened.

Two things

(1) Those attending the Phoenix Park will not see or hear the 'protest' which is several km away in Parnell Square. It's not a protest it's to show solidarity with the victims of catholic church abuse. Both the church and the state turned their back on them for decades. The church still will not open its archives or make financial restitution.


(2)The money they put on the collection plate helps fund high priced lawyers to shield paedophiles from justice. It also helps ensure convicted paedophiles have a comfortable retirement.

Any decent person should have nothing whatsoever to do with such a wicked and unrepentant organisation.