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Should we protest against the pope's visit?

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I believe a huge protest against the popes visit is required to show the government and church they are no longer welcome or wanted in our society. What do you think? There are many stakeholders that should protest their removal from any influence in our society. Some that come to mind are:
1) Anyone not supportive of misogyny
2) Anyone that doesn't believe in school indoctrination of children in a massive lie.
3) Anyone concerned about abusers in positions allowing abuse
4) Anyone with the most basic scientific education.
5) Anyone that doesn't support cults
6) Anyone that believes LGBT people should be treated fairly in society.
7) Anyone that believes women should have ANY control of their bodies.
8) Anyone that is not seen as equal in the church namely women children and men.

There are many other areas but I realised I have covered everyone. As such let's all go to the Phoenix park to let the Vatican know they are not welcome.
Are there any peaceful groups planning to protest?

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[Deleted User]

Hitman3000 wrote: »

I won't quote the rest of your post but the contradictions are glaring. I have no interest in looking at your posting history I respond only to whats on the thread I'm following. The Church is in the limelight because they hold the majority of responsibility and their leader is here on a jolly.

So, in order words, your accusation was baseless and you won't retract it.

Auguste Comte

Deleted User wrote: »

I object to simply targeting the Church as if they were solely responsible for what happened. And I object to protesting the Popes visit because it's simply pissing on the day for Catholics who are in no way responsible for what happened.

So when Brendan Smyth was raping children who, appart from Brendan Smyth and the members of the catholic church management who helped him access more victims and evade justice, do you see as responsible?

Sycamore Tree

Auguste Comte wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

I object to simply targeting the Church as if they were solely responsible for what happened. And I object to protesting the Popes visit because it's simply pissing on the day for Catholics who are in no way responsible for what happened.

So when Brendan Smyth was raping children who, appart from Brendan Smyth and the members of the catholic church management who helped him access more victims and evade justice, do you see as responsible?

Brendan Smyth went on to rape and abuse 200+ children AFTER he was found guilty by the internal church inquiry.

The children were silenced and the parents were never told but he went on with no restrictions for near 20 years.

Hitman3000

Deleted User wrote:

So, in order words, your accusation was baseless and you won't retract it.

No it has a basis, your opinion is however that it doesn't.

Muahahaha

NIMAN wrote: »

I am wondering how you call an insurance company and ask for a policy to cover you for abusing and raping kids

I would imagine thats the kind of stuff that the Irish Catholic Churchs long serving solicitors Arthur Cox would sort out for them. Real bang of the Knight of Columbanus in that firm who mange thousands of properties on behalf of the Church. You could just imagine the phone call to Lloyds of London, "What?! How many children? Im just putting you on hold...."

Anyway a poem by Roddy McDevitt

A Prayer For The Pope on His Arrival In Ireland

As you munch the tarmac At Dublin Airport
Arse in the air
May you be shafted
Then and there
By a rampant pink bear
One cassock-slashing
Pelvis-cracking thrust
For every child your church tore to shreds
Reduced to quivering dread
Or left for dead…

May you be thrown back
On your plane
And flown to The Hague
To face trial for the plague
Of vicious misery
You inflicted on your flock
With evasions so vague…

Get in the dock Pops
Swear on the bible
The truth the whole truth
And nothing but the truth
So you and your paedophile
Stormtroopers at last
Face your victims
To confess to aplogise
To compensate and exorcise
The demons of your disgrace
Before being dragged to the cells
And left to rot in your Rome-made hells

Roddy McDevitt

Beechwoodspark

Muahahaha wrote: »

I would imagine thats the kind of stuff that the Irish Catholic Churchs long serving solicitors Arthur Cox would sort out for them. Real bang of the Knight of Columbanus in that firm who mange thousands of properties on behalf of the Church. You could just imagine the phone call to Lloyds of London, "What?! How many children? Im just putting you on hold...."

Anyway a poem by Roddy McDevitt

A Prayer For The Pope on His Arrival In Ireland

As you munch the tarmac At Dublin Airport
Arse in the air
May you be shafted
Then and there
By a rampant pink bear
One cassock-slashing
Pelvis-cracking thrust
For every child your church tore to shreds
Reduced to quivering dread
Or left for dead…

May you be thrown back
On your plane
And flown to The Hague
To face trial for the plague
Of vicious misery
You inflicted on your flock
With evasions so vague…

Get in the dock Pops
Swear on the bible
The truth the whole truth
And nothing but the truth
So you and your paedophile
Stormtroopers at last
Face your victims
To confess to aplogise
To compensate and exorcise
The demons of your disgrace
Before being dragged to the cells
And left to rot in your Rome-made hells

Roddy McDevitt

What rubbish.

super_furry

Well looking at the pathetic turnout for the pope, I'm not sure a protest is needed. Ignore them and they'll continue to go away.

Beechwoodspark

super_furry wrote: »

Well looking at the pathetic turnout for the pope, I'm not sure a protest is needed. Ignore them and they'll continue to go away.

Streets are packed and so is croke Park and apparently 500k (some sources say 600k) are to attend mass tomorrow. Oh and 45 k will attend the knock event.

Dravokivich

super_furry wrote: »

Well looking at the pathetic turnout for the pope, I'm not sure a protest is needed. Ignore them and they'll continue to go away.

The crowds he interacted with all had wristbands. I expect the numbers were controlled.

The high horse brigade

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Streets are packed and so is croke Park and apparently 500k (some sources say 600k) are to attend mass tomorrow. Oh and 45 k will attend the knock event.

How do they know? There's lots of protest bookings of tickets.

Beechwoodspark

The high horse brigade wrote: »

How do they know? There's lots of protest bookings of tickets.

The organisers said a day or two after the media reported about protest bookings that they were on top of the issue and had clamped down on such bookings - and that it was over hyped by the media.

Seth Brundle

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

The organisers said a day or two after the media reported about protest bookings that they were on top of the issue and had clamped down on such bookings - and that it was over hyped by the media.

How can they clamp down on the protest bookings?

Beechwoodspark

Seth Brundle wrote: »

How can they clamp down on the protest bookings?

What’s this. 20 questions??

Ask them. I havnt a clue. I’m only telling you what they said.

The high horse brigade

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

The organisers said a day or two after the media reported about protest bookings that they were on top of the issue and had clamped down on such bookings - and that it was over hyped by the media.

Nonsense, I ordered a few batches to makey uppy names and they all came through. They didn't sell out, the window offering them closed without them teaching their expected targets

Beechwoodspark

The high horse brigade wrote: »

Nonsense, I ordered a few batches to makey uppy names and they all came through. They didn't sell out, the window offering them closed without them teaching their expected targets

Whatever. I’d say the RCC are in awe of how much of a rebel you are.

RustyNut

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Seth Brundle wrote: »

How can they clamp down on the protest bookings?

What’s this. 20 questions??

Ask them. I havnt a clue. I’m only telling you what they said.

Oh they say more than their payers now.

WinnyThePoo

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

The high horse brigade wrote: »

Nonsense, I ordered a few batches to makey uppy names and they all came through. They didn't sell out, the window offering them closed without them teaching their expected targets

Whatever. I’d say the RCC are in awe of how much of a rebel you are.

Probably angry they didn't get him young.

Beechwoodspark

Great crowds out to see the pope.

Hitman3000

They didn't clamp down on mine, I still have 40. Someone telling porkies methinks.

Discodog

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Great crowds out to see the pope.

I am not surprised. The people aren't going to let thousands of abused kids stop them from having a nice day out.

Their spirits will get a little dampened tomorrow morning. The attitude of the masses explains how the whole thing happened in the first place.

Sycamore Tree

I heard Leo delivered a great speech. Did anyone hear it?

The PR for the Roman organisation is so poor this week, I wish the pope would come more often.

Discodog

Varadkar's Speech

“In place of Christian charity, forgiveness and compassion, far too often there was judgement, severity and cruelty, in particular towards women and children and those on the margins.

“Magdalene Laundries, Mother and Baby Homes, industrial schools, illegal adoptions and clerical child abuse are stains on our State, our society and also the Catholic Church.

“Wounds are still open and there is much to be done to bring about justice and truth and healing for victims and survivors.

“Holy Father, I ask that you use your office and influence to ensure this is done here in Ireland and across the world.“In place of Christian charity, forgiveness and compassion, far too often there was judgement, severity and cruelty, in particular towards women and children and those on the margins.

“Magdalene Laundries, Mother and Baby Homes, industrial schools, illegal adoptions and clerical child abuse are stains on our State, our society and also the Catholic Church.

“Wounds are still open and there is much to be done to bring about justice and truth and healing for victims and survivors.

“Holy Father, I ask that you use your office and influence to ensure this is done here in Ireland and across the world.

“In recent weeks, we have all listened to heart-breaking stories from Pennsylvania of brutal crimes perpetrated by people within the Catholic Church, and then obscured to protect the institution at the expense of innocent victims.

“It is a story all too tragically familiar here in Ireland.

“There can only be zero tolerance for those who abuse innocent children or who facilitate that abuse.

“We must now ensure that from words flow actions. Above all, Holy Father, I ask to you to listen to the victims.”

He should of added Do you think that I am "intrinsically disordered" ?

The Kop

Discodog wrote: »

I am not surprised. The people aren't going to let thousands of abused kids stop them from having a nice day out.

Their spirits will get a little dampened tomorrow morning. The attitude of the masses explains how the whole thing happened in the first place.

And yet you probably voted for the murder of unborn kids....

WinnyThePoo

The Kop wrote: »

Discodog wrote: »

I am not surprised. The people aren't going to let thousands of abused kids stop them from having a nice day out.

Their spirits will get a little dampened tomorrow morning. The attitude of the masses explains how the whole thing happened in the first place.

And yet you probably voted for the murder of unborn kids....

Get over it

Discodog

The Kop wrote: »

And yet you probably voted for the murder of unborn kids....

Nope I voted against the ongoing persecution of women

Discodog

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Get over it

Many never will. The RC faith doesn't allow for changing your opinion or being open minded.

Hitman3000

The Kop wrote:

And yet you probably voted for the murder of unborn kids....

The mask slips.... Women should know there place right?

Hotblack Desiato

Deleted User wrote: »

And I object to protesting the Popes visit because it's simply pissing on the day for Catholics who are in no way responsible for what happened.

Two things

(1) Those attending the Phoenix Park will not see or hear the 'protest' which is several km away in Parnell Square. It's not a protest it's to show solidarity with the victims of catholic church abuse. Both the church and the state turned their back on them for decades. The church still will not open its archives or make financial restitution.

(2)The money they put on the collection plate helps fund high priced lawyers to shield paedophiles from justice. It also helps ensure convicted paedophiles have a comfortable retirement.

Any decent person should have nothing whatsoever to do with such a wicked and unrepentant organisation.

Hotblack Desiato

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Streets are packed

https://twitter.com/HenryMcKean/status/1033356368022052864

Posted approx 3pm today.

"A thin crowd so far for Pope Francis, the Queen of England attracted more."

Hitman3000

Hotblack Desiato wrote:

"A thin crowd so far for Pope Francis, the Queen of England attracted more."

The marathon attracts more.