So who's going to see the Pope?

Auguste Comte · 25-08-2018 02:39PM

Niles Crane wrote: »

Like your parents /grandparents and pretty much everyone in the country who is more than 50 years old.

The church in this country were not armed they would have been very easy to deal with if the public didn't decide they didn't want to deal with it.It was unbelievably inhuman to allow people to be taken into these mother and child homes,reformatory schools etc for no good reason and yet that is what the Irish people allowed to happen.

I'm over 50 and I'm am in no way to blame or am I complicit in raping children.

The rapist priests are responsible for the rapes and the catholic church management are responsible for enabling these priests to continue committing their vile crimes and evade justice by moving rapist clerics from place to place and swearing their victims to silence on threat of eternal damnation.

Achasanai · 25-08-2018 02:40PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

What makes you think we don’t think about it? I have struggled with my faith for years and even tried to make myself stopped believing as a way support the victims of the church but it just didn’t sit right with me.

Make yourself stop believing in what? God, Jesus, and the story of the Bible or the Roman Catholic Church? What would it take for your faith in the RCC to be affected? Certainly not actively helping the mass rape of children around the world (among many, many other horrors).

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

If I were to choose not to go to the park now it would only give more ammunition to those who want to believe I think it’s ok to hurt children. They’d jump on it as an admition of guilt by me.

Or an example of somebody staying strong in their faith, and protesting against the hierarchy that has actively helped priest and bishops engage in raping children. The RCC care about numbers. How many people turn out tomorrow will be used by those in the higher up parts of the RCC as an example of how many people support them.

Auguste Comte · 25-08-2018 02:41PM

indioblack wrote: »

That fella gets around, doesn't he?

Prase allah it's a miracle

AudreyHepburn · 25-08-2018 02:46PM

Achasanai wrote: »

Make yourself stop believing in what? God, Jesus, and the story of the Bible or the Roman Catholic Church? What would it take for your faith in the RCC to be affected? Certainly not actively helping the mass rape of children around the world (among many, many other horrors).

Or an example of somebody staying strong in their faith, and protesting against the hierarchy that has actively helped priest and bishops engage in raping children. The RCC care about numbers. How many people turn out tomorrow will be used by those in the higher up parts of the RCC as an example of how many people support them.

My faith in the church has been affected, that’s why I struggle with it so much.

I’m going to the park regardless but if I did decide not to then as far as I’m concerned it would only be used as a further stick to beat me with ‘oh look she’s not going. She must agree she’s a child abuse enabler and be feeling guilty about it’.

Hitman3000 · 25-08-2018 02:57PM

AudreyHepburn wrote:

My faith in the church has been affected, thatâ€™s why I struggle with it so much.

This intrigues me what has the church got to do with your faith? The RCC did not exist during the life of Jesus, God did not write a tablet somewhere constituting it. Your faith is in God not a human construct whose sole purpose is control just as any organised religion. You can practice your beliefs in a shed exactly as you would in a Cathedral. Do you believe their is one true religion and ever other is wrong?

Strazdas · 25-08-2018 03:00PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

My faith in the church has been affected, that’s why I struggle with it so much.

I’m going to the park regardless but if I did decide not to then as far as I’m concerned it would only be used as a further stick to beat me with ‘oh look she’s not going. She must agree she’s a child abuse enabler and be feeling guilty about it’.

You're going along to the Mass because you are going along to the Mass. You don't need to explain or justify yourself to anyone.

taytobreath · 25-08-2018 03:00PM

I just started a thread in the tv forum for anyone that would like to discuss the tv coverage of the popes visit.

No debates on religion

The high horse brigade · 25-08-2018 03:01PM

https://twitter.com/SorchaPollak/status/1033348645528252416

AudreyHepburn · 25-08-2018 03:01PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

This intrigues me what has the church got to do with your faith? The RCC did not exist during the life of Jesus, God did not write a tablet somewhere constituting it. Your faith is in God not a human construct whose sole purpose is control just as any organised religion. You can practice your beliefs in a shed exactly as you would in a Cathedral. Do you believe their is one true religion and ever other is wrong?

I believe all religions worship the same god/higher power but in different ways.

And I never said I need the church to affirm my beliefs, that’s just the method by which I choose to worship.

AudreyHepburn · 25-08-2018 03:02PM

Strazdas wrote: »

You're going along to the Mass because you are going along to the Mass. You don't need to explain or justify yourself to anyone.

Based on the attitudes on display here I do unfortunately. Otherwise people will go on thinking I am ok with child abuse.

Strazdas · 25-08-2018 03:06PM

The high horse brigade wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SorchaPollak/status/1033348645528252416

Motorcade later this afternoon through Dublin city centre will take only a few seconds to pass through in any event. There's no need for people to wait for ages at the barriers.

Beechwoodspark · 25-08-2018 03:07PM

Huge crowds heading up towards dame st from grafton st /Stephens green direction at moment.

The high horse brigade · 25-08-2018 03:08PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Huge crowds heading up towards dame st from grafton st /Stephens green direction at moment.

Pics or it didn't happen. Every picture and report I've seen the place looks empty

Atlantic Dawn · 25-08-2018 03:10PM

The Pope Mobile is like something a pimp rapper would own, the V8 engine hardly good for the climate change wafflers, I suppose coming in to the winter the hotter it makes the country the better.

harr · 25-08-2018 03:11PM

Miriam and crew on RTE now and guests saying how great the church is.
Listening To this lot is similar to listening to people in a cult..

Edit
They now have the Loyola crowd on now , a lot disillusioned people in this country..

Beechwoodspark · 25-08-2018 03:13PM

The high horse brigade wrote: »

Pics or it didn't happen. Every picture and report I've seen the place looks empty

Far from empty. Come down and have a look for yourself-maybe have a quick pray while you’re at it!

Atlantic Dawn · 25-08-2018 03:14PM

The high horse brigade wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SorchaPollak/status/1033348645528252416

The fake news will report it as 200,000 people.

Fighting Tao · 25-08-2018 03:17PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Far from empty. Come down and have a look for yourself-maybe have a quick pray while you’re at it!

Rte reporting only 200 people on Marlborough St and it’s surrounding streets. He is due there in the pro cathedral in about 10-15 minutes. Huge turnout!

The high horse brigade · 25-08-2018 03:17PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Far from empty. Come down and have a look for yourself-maybe have a quick pray while you’re at it!

I'm happy enough where I am and I'm not into witchcraft or sorcery

Auguste Comte · 25-08-2018 03:17PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Far from empty. Come down and have a look for yourself-maybe have a quick pray while you’re at it!

It not every day you get to gawk at the man who is responsible for hiding some of the world's most prolific paedophiles.

Atlantic Dawn · 25-08-2018 03:18PM

Not a single live webcam seems to be active in the entire city to verify who is actually out watching the event, conspiracy theories welcome.

murpho999 · 25-08-2018 03:19PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Based on the attitudes on display here I do unfortunately. Otherwise people will go on thinking I am ok with child abuse.

As said before nobody thinks you're ok with child abuse but by going to the park tomorrow then you're showing approval of an organisation and its leader that had members abuse children for decades and help cover it up, oppose gay rights, ban contraception, oppress women etc.

I don't get how anybody can back that and I don't get why you need to show your faith by going tomorrow if you say you don't need the church.

Fighting Tao · 25-08-2018 03:20PM

Auguste Comte wrote: »

It not every day you get to gawk at the man who is responsible for hiding some of the world's most prolific paedophiles.

People have a nautral inquisitiveness and go to see people just to see them. Not that they believe or support them. Look at how man used to turn up for hangings as an example. More recent times it’s known as FOMO or being able to post on social media “I was there”.

murpho999 · 25-08-2018 03:21PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The fake news will report it as 200,000 people.

If less it will be because of health and safety requirements.

Fighting Tao · 25-08-2018 03:21PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Not a single live webcam seems to be active in the entire city to verify who is actually out watching the event, conspiracy theories welcome.

RTE are showing overhead shots. I’ve seen more people at football matches.

Atlantic Dawn · 25-08-2018 03:22PM

Summerhill dead.

Beechwoodspark · 25-08-2018 03:22PM

The high horse brigade wrote: »

I'm happy enough where I am and I'm not into witchcraft or sorcery

Great atmosphere in the city centre at moment. This is brilliant altogether. Everyone in great form

Fighting Tao · 25-08-2018 03:23PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Summerhill dead.

Only one person watching. A few others walking on the street but not watching.

super_furry · 25-08-2018 03:23PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Not a single live webcam seems to be active in the entire city to verify who is actually out watching the event, conspiracy theories welcome.

The high horse brigade · 25-08-2018 03:24PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Great atmosphere in the city centre at moment. This is brilliant altogether. Everyone in great form

Looking at rte the marathon gets a bigger following

So who's going to see the Pope?

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