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Beginner Triathlons that allow snorkels

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  • #32
    peter kern
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭peter kern


    pc11 wrote: »
    A study?? What kind of study do you mean?

    It's very simple: if a swimmer is not safe, he's out. I have no hesitation in pulling a swimmer out of the water if they are struggling and I have often done so. Surely this can't be controversial!


    its not controverisal at all. what is controversial is that if snorkels were allowed you would make a judgment aobut that before you see the swimmer. based on what you like or not.

    if he is not striggeling with the snorkel than you would keep him her in ?


  • #33
    peter kern
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭peter kern


    EC1000 wrote: »
    Wouldn't it be ruled out on the basis of it being a swim aid and all swim aids are prohibited? If he's allowed a snorkel, why can't I use my fins?


    i have 0 problems a swimmer using fins in a try a tri.

    i would have serious problems with both at national champ races lol.

    you see where iam comming from ...
    get people in the sport to get started as it becomes more competive make the sport harder. I would have qualification races for nat champs too that sell out.

    but at the entry level i think whatever is not a healt risks goes.

    which is why i want to know more aobut weather a snorkel is a health risk.


  • #34
    TriFirst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭TriFirst


    EC1000 wrote: »
    Wouldn't it be ruled out on the basis of it being a swim aid and all swim aids are prohibited? If he's allowed a snorkel, why can't I use my fins?

    Snorkels are banned by the World Triathlon Corporation which runs the Ironman series of races. The ITU prohibits use of snorkels for all its events including paratriathletes. Indeed all methods of propulsion including paddles and fins are banned. USAT, Triathlon Canada and Triathlon Australia do not specially ban snorkels however the race director has the final say.

    Either way as has been said repeatedly if you need to use a snorkel to compete then you shouldn't be competing. To remove any doubt there should be an outright ban across the sport. If paratriathletes don't get a special dispensation then there's absolutely no reason any able bodied triathlete should be allowed use a snorkel because their swimming ability is poor.


  • #35
    pc11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭pc11


    EC1000 wrote: »
    Wouldn't it be ruled out on the basis of it being a swim aid and all swim aids are prohibited? If he's allowed a snorkel, why can't I use my fins?

    Absolutely.


  • #36
    pc11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭pc11


    peter kern wrote: »
    its not controverisal at all. what is controversial is that if snorkels were allowed you would make a judgment aobut that before you see the swimmer. based on what you like or not.

    if he is not striggeling with the snorkel than you would keep him her in ?

    Peter, you're not making any sense here. Snorkels are not allowed. End of story. I don't judge on "what I like". I follow the rules and safety.

    If a beginner swimmer NEEDS a snorkel, he is a terrible swimmer and should not be there.

    I can't believe this is even a debate. I've never seen a triathlete ask to use a snorkel and they are not allowed in any case. Even if they were not explicitly banned I would not allow them. End of story.


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  • #37
    Diego Murphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Diego Murphy


    pc11 wrote: »
    Peter, you're not making any sense here. Snorkels are not allowed. End of story. I don't judge on "what I like". I follow the rules and safety.

    If a beginner swimmer NEEDS a snorkel, he is a terrible swimmer and should not be there.

    I can't believe this is even a debate. I've never seen a triathlete ask to use a snorkel and they are not allowed in any case. Even if they were not explicitly banned I would not allow them. End of story.

    Well said. It shouldn't even be a debate.


  • #38
    Diego Murphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Diego Murphy


    Back to the poster, I remember when I first learned to swim, I was taught to float on my back first. Not as easy as it sounds, to do it properly. But once you've it mastered, your confidence levels increase dramatically and it's much easier to learn things like breathing.


  • #39
    RacoonQueen
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    My first session as an adult I was taught how to breathe properly by doing a drill similar to the one kurt mentioned in an earlier post.
    Into the deep end 'jump up' out of the water breathing in through my mouth, float down to the floor breathing out through the nose, push back up with my legs, breath in through mouth...and so on.
    Pretty much like this
    https://youtu.be/RJB93g5y_A0?t=45

    Did that drill once, never needed to do it again, main problem for people (I think) is mastering the in through mouth/out through nose to not getting the stingy feeling of water up the nose which just makes people panic, rightly so if bloody hurts.


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