Hungary Scrap Gender Studies Indoctrination Courses

WoolyJumper wrote: »

I'd like to know how many people here that feel it should be banned actually studied gender studies or know anything about gender theories from a sociological or psychological point of view. I've no idea what the average university course in gender studies entails but I'd find it hard to believe that it doesn't contain any kind of critical analysis. Sounds like people hear the name gender and jump to conclusions as to what it's all about. Looking at the Trinity handbook on gender studies it looks like an interesting course actually.

I'd prefer that Gender Studies courses were investigated for bias and brought up to a higher standard. The real problem with Gender studies is that, in essence, there are two(ish) types of courses being presented in Universities.

The first type of Gender studies, is the renamed "Women's studies" which focuses on Feminism, Feminist research theory, and the perception of Feminist thinkers regarding male behavior towards women. So, there tends to be a particular bias in research, statistics, and the assumptions drawn to support feminist beliefs regarding social constructs and social issues. There is a clear bias involved, and that's been shown repeatedly if you actually care to do some research, rather than just assuming those criticising are wrong.

Then there's the second type of Gender studies, which tends to be a newer type of course which is based around actual genders. Neither male or female is dominant, and the focus is on the interactions between the two (or female to female/male to male). These courses arose after all the criticisms towards womens studies and the claims that Gender studies was feminist propaganda. These courses are more to do with sociology and anthropology rather than seeking to promote a socio-political creed.

Now, the problem is that with posts like yours is the assumption that all Gender Studies courses are the same. That criticism of the more Feminist driven studies means criticism of the non-feminist Gender studies.. It makes a convenient complaint about those criticising to suggest that they're being unreasonable, although I'd suggest this lumping all gender studies programs into the same pot is just as unreasonable..

Gender is such an interesting and highly debated topic these days.

Gender debates are a cluster-**** of a mess.

However, the psychology behind how genders interact with each other is extremely interesting. But that's a "lesser" topic of conversation these days.

A course in gender studies is probably pretty relevant to todays society and I'd imagine there would be a lot of debate in the class (assuming people can get over themselves and actually join a gender study class)

Advanced marketing (or Sales/Promotion/Advertising) classes would be more useful TBH. Hell, I'd highly recommend the NLP Practitioner course too. They already talk about gender, the interactions between genders, and the cultural/racial/psychological influences regarding gender behavior. Consumerism is an essential part of our modern world, and the way that the different genders behave is particularly important. (Although I suspect that's not what you're really focusing on when it comes to "gender")

The gender debate needs a balanced panel of Judges or Adjudicators. It really is that simple, but unfortunately, the whole Academic area of gender studies is dominated by women, along with most material released from Gender studies related research also by women, who were educated under the previous women's studies programs. This doesn't automatically exclude or dismiss their judgments or opinions, but there is a very strong bias present when Feminism is the core of your whole educational background... doesn't really encourage a degree of fairness when considering how women are responsible for their own circumstances (when they actually are, as apposed to treating them always as victims). [And it's worth considering that while first/second wave feminism(ists) is often perfectly acceptable in their opinions, third/fourth wave is extremely influential in academia.. which doesn't suggest a more balanced set of viewpoints)

Gender studies courses are improving but, honestly, there is still very little in the way of supervision as to what they teach. As long as it's about Gender (sociology and Anthropology) rather than "society through the lens of Feminism", then it'll gain my support.

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

BTW - usual DM disclaimer but an interesting situation and opion nevertheless:

I didn't realise articles just run into each other. I had to lol at this fear mongering further down.

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PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I'm yet to fathom why some people fail to grasp the following:

I'm a woman - I have no problem showering and changing next to a woman of any sexuality whatsoever. Quite frankly, if she fancies me then God help her!!

Whilst I have no issue with men being in "women's" spaces such as lavatories (I'd be a hypocrite if I did - dying for a pee at the airport on Saturday and once I established the lads' jacks had cubicles, I jumped the Q and was in there!) I DO have a problem showering next to a physical man.

Than man can believe themselves to be female, dress as a woman, and I will respect their wishes. But if anatomically male, you do not belong in a women's shower room.

What exactly is it then? You're not bothered of someone is attracted to you. Is the presence of a penis?