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21-08-2018 3:04pm#11
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Christ, I assume he's complaining about the PC Gamer article that mentions, incorrectly, that "the demo lacks the outstanding musical drops DmC built into its combos"? I guess he got too caught up in the snark to realise the news about the music came out back in June, was already reported by the "mainstream press" and was positively commented on in most other outlets.
In any case, hopefully the news of a possible demo release prior to launch is true, be nice to get a hands on with it which should hopefully help allay any fears after the previous entry in the series.
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There's a bunch of off-screen footage of some pretty good Nero players doing all the old DMC4 tricks but with that new DMC5 fluidity. Some really cool taunts and stuff
Best thing is that this does the DmC thing of improving the onboarding process for new players to 'git gud' and feel the synapses popping when learning new tricks but preserves the combat ceiling of those old games.
Like for all the dumb things DmC did wrong it did some stuff right and a lot of that stuff is getting carried across here it looks like (eg, the style ranking system is from DmC. Dynamic soundtracks were a thing first tried in DmC for the series)0 -
already reported[/URL] by the "mainstream press" and was positively commented on in most other outlets
I think it's more of a bite at game journos never being able to get to hear the good music themselves because they all seem completely incompetent at video games. The cuphead & doom videos really sobered people to this fact.n any case, hopefully the news of a possible demo release prior to launch is true, be nice to get a hands on with it which should hopefully help allay any fears after the previous entry in the series.
Other than the look of the characters being a bit off (especially Nero he looks like a different person) I think it's overall looking great but yeah I'd love to play a bit myself. A demo is unlikely or it'll be bound to 8th gen consoles. I hope for more moves, deepen the combat, more things you can do after grabbing enemies like throwing them at each other. Difficulty and depth need to go through the roof just like the originals. That said I wouldn't mind if they cut back on the amount of blue orb and lifebar collecting stuff. Hidden rooms for sure but perhaps just for score and cosmetic things like costumes. Upgrade system in DMC was never needed imo but I suppose it helps introduce new moves and mechanics slowly to the player... I just don't want too much grind in my DMC games. The only grind should be in improving your skill to dominate the mechanics.EoinMcLovin wrote: »If posting on phone, just change to full site. That's what I do if posting any links from my phone or tablet.
I'll try that thanks. I usually don't phone post or avoid linking when doing so.0 -
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it, I just loath that kind of snarky nonsense that has become so prevalent in some circles, there's absolutely no need for it.
It's just funny. It's also tame compared to what journos have been accusing their audiences of. Gamers are dead, misogynistic, loners, virgins, should be bullied. But saying the journos can't play video games well? Now now lads, no need for that kind of talk. :rolleyes:Anyone can have a terrible day or game, regardless of what publication you write or make videos for.
A day? Any gameplay clips I see where they actually play the games themselves are always horrendous in my experience. They're on a pretty long combo of bad day. I don't think I could keep a straight face if I saw them trying to demonstrate a DMC game.Character design wise, I'd wager they're trying to differentiate him more from Dante aesthetically this time around rather than just playstyle as in DMC4. It'll be interesting to see if he even has a Devil Trigger this time around or if they're sticking with the Devil Breaker arm mechanics for the character.[
He had a DT in DMC4 but it just had different boosts than Dante's. Nero's is more about higher DPS and making grabs even more lethal (even on bosses) as well as boosting shots with extra projectiles. Dante's DT is about increasing core speed, flinch resistance on being hit and causing causing some moves to become different.
You use Dante's DT when you're in trouble. Nero's for when you're already doing well and want to capitalise.0 -
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omg guys who gives a fuk
Look at this cool guy sh*t
slick as a mofo. DMC is back
A hell of a lot of work being done to line up the interstitial animations and make that stuff more convincing while keeping all the core parts of DMC4. So excited
Also if you want to follow a journo who's good at these games Chris Carter at Destructoid has got a huge passion for the series, very interested to see what his take on 5 is when it comes out0 -
johnny_ultimate wrote: »Ah yes, two individual videos from two different people out of the literally thousands of videos published by video game publications and journalists every year is definitive evidence that every video game journalist is incapable of playing video games. Truly sobering :pac:
It was. Those are the ones that got popular and shared on mainstream platforms when previous instances of this were not so shared, hence why I brought THOSE up because most people are quick to forget. I could've made a wall of text of the absolute state of game journalism, including the dozens of fluff pieces they post about how games are just too hard, how the game locking content (music?) behind that disgusting, elitist thing known as 'skill' is just unfair to the average player, and how they champion everything anti-gameplay... and how this demonstrates that they're awful at games. But that would've been very off topic and I'm sure you yourself would've been contemplating your mod actions. But at least my post had DMC in it.one armed dwarf wrote: »So excited
That seems to be almost unanimously the reaction from everywhere and I'm loving it.0 -
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Reveal of a few devil breakers. Also photo mode has been confirmed along with gallery mode
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- DLC announced before release
- DLC includes unique weapon
- Characters get hit with fugly stick
- Delete Dante's official track from fan backlash and lead singer being sexual predator
- Same studio responsible for Dead Rising sequels
My hype went from about S rank to D in one day. The DLC malarkey alone is enough for me to wait for this one to hit the bargain bins unless there's some much better news before release. Trish looks ghastly and it appears she got breast reduction surgery. Lady's jaw structure got like 80% more masculine.0 -
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Some very odd takes here with the Trish jaw stuff
This gameplay showcase of Dante came out last night, looks like the first proper successor to DMC3
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Somehow IGN managed to find someone who's actually really good at DMC and send him over to Tokyo to rip **** up as Dante. Unfortunately the video is 30fps so its not the best showcase of the combat's smoothness but you can infer well enough how good it probably feels.
Royal Guard is my favourite DMC3 style, it looks like they've made the windows wider and opened the style up to more players here which is good. You aren't as brutally punished for whiffing a guard.
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The IGN link is taken down for some reason, maybe uploaded too soon.
Other channels are taking the IGN video and uploading it theirselves so this link here will probably die soon
Official capcom gameplay
Odd situation when the IGN reporter produces better DMC footage than Capcom themselves0 -
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RG is my favourite cause it makes the Vergil fights feel like a fighting game full of blocks and counters. I didn't enjoy it in DMC4 tho, felt less effective. All the styles in DMC4 felt a bit rubbish tbh.
This looks cool, it def looks to me like the execution of a perfect block is easier here and these block animations are sweet
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Tbh, I get hung up on the language of microtransactions, DLC and premium 'cheats'.
The DMC5 producer was taking questions on one of the DMC discords, he has said that the purchasing model is the same as DMC4.
Now maybe the 5 economy is a bit different, sure.
But this is what the DMC4 storefront looks like
The Blue Orbs at the top I'd class as being MTX (micros), but there's no grind involved anyway as blue orbs are mostly rewards for secret missions and you find them by exploring nooks and crannies. You get a handful in the shop and they are usually quite cheap.
The other items on here, the Super Dante costumes, "Unlock Everything" and the Proud Souls are cheats
Proud Souls are used to buy skills. If you buy that DLC you will be able to buy all the skills available for Nero at mission 1. When you get to Dante you will definitely be able to buy all his skills
So it doesnt really feel like a MT to me, it just feels like a cheat. A cheat to skip the skill tree entirely.
DMC4's economy was just fine, but I can't imagine a situation where the DMC5 skill economy is so feckin wrecked that you have to pop into PSN to skip it entirely.
It's like the point of these games from a first player perspective, to get funnelled through the skill tree and pick up these skills and learn how to implement them.
If you skip that altogether by buying them all or you can barely purchase anything cause the progression is so banjaxed then there's no chance of having a smooth onboarding process with this game.
It's less nickel and dime and more 'pay us to bypass our fcked game'.
Maybe that could happen, but I reckon just by precedent it will not.
So like ultimately I can't see the situation where DMC5 is a nickel and dime game cause the balance of 4 was just fine. The DMC devs also did Dragon's Dogma which had MTX and I've never really heard any balance problems with that one either0 -
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one armed dwarf wrote: »Tbh, I get hung up on the language of microtransactions, DLC and premium 'cheats'.
The DMC5 producer was taking questions on one of the DMC discords, he has said that the purchasing model is the same as DMC4.
Now maybe the 5 economy is a bit different, sure.
But this is what the DMC4 storefront looks like
The Blue Orbs at the top I'd class as being MTX (micros), but there's no grind involved anyway as blue orbs are mostly rewards for secret missions and you find them by exploring nooks and crannies. You get a handful in the shop and they are usually quite cheap.
The other items on here, the Super Dante costumes, "Unlock Everything" and the Proud Souls are cheats
Proud Souls are used to buy skills. If you buy that DLC you will be able to buy all the skills available for Nero at mission 1. When you get to Dante you will definitely be able to buy all his skills
So it doesnt really feel like a MT to me, it just feels like a cheat. A cheat to skip the skill tree entirely.
DMC4's economy was just fine, but I can't imagine a situation where the DMC5 skill economy is so feckin wrecked that you have to pop into PSN to skip it entirely.
It's like the point of these games from a first player perspective, to get funnelled through the skill tree and pick up these skills and learn how to implement them.
If you skip that altogether by buying them all or you can barely purchase anything cause the progression is so banjaxed then there's no chance of having a smooth onboarding process with this game.
It's less nickel and dime and more 'pay us to bypass our fcked game'.
Maybe that could happen, but I reckon just by precedent it will not.
So like ultimately I can't see the situation where DMC5 is a nickel and dime game cause the balance of 4 was just fine. The DMC devs also did Dragon's Dogma which had MTX and I've never really heard any balance problems with that one either
I think people's fear is that the economy of DMC4 wasn't designed with MTXs in mind. MTXs were only added for DMC4SE. Whereas if MTXs are being designed into DMCV from the start, they might unequally balance the game to make MTXs more appealing. For instance, one of the new features of the game is that if you die, you can spend red orbs to come back to life instantly without having to start the mission again. The amount of red orbs you need increase each time, and you can also spend more orbs to come back to life with more health. That wasn't in any of the previous games (they used Gold orbs to come back to life when you died).
But, the flipside is that rather than orbs for items and proud souls for skills, you now have one currency for both, which means you'll likely earn more red orbs per mission.
I agree though. In DMC4SE, being able to buy all the skills and a bunch of blue orbs right off the bat would definitely help some people, but at the same time, buying skills doesn't make you skillful. It takes a while to get used to using the skills in the game as you unlock them. As such, there's not a lot of benefit in being able to unlock all the skills early if you don't know when and how best to use them, which comes from playing the game.0 -
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Tbf, Nero's theme song is called "Devil Trigger"
V, I wonder how that goes. I've seen speculated that his fighting style will be like JoJo's Bizarre Adventure or Persona if it was an action game. Standing back and letting the 'stand/persona' do all the fighting
Maybe he has a sort of switch mechanic between offensive DPS type summons and more tanky ones that might mitigate damage and have support stuff like healing0 -
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