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The Breast Feeding Support Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭Sausage dog


    Any suggestions for particular bottles or teats to use if I'm going to start introducing one bottle a day. I've only been breast feeding up until now & am clueless when it comes to bottles etc. Baby is 13 weeks old. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭Sausage dog


    Any suggestions for particular bottles or teats to use if I'm going to start introducing one bottle a day. I've only been breast feeding up until now & am clueless when it comes to bottles etc. Baby is 13 weeks old. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Pocos


    Hi sausage dog,

    I don’t have too much suggestions in this one as our LO refused all attempts at a bottle! (Nearly 7 months now!) but the two most recommended to me were the Avent ones (easy to clean and straight forward to use!) and the nuk ones but esp the teat that are kinda yellow looking! They feel more like skin then the other teat! Best of luck with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Whatever works for your baby! My kids have had different preferences - my 2 year old did best with Tommee Tippee but my 6 month old is more of a Nuk or MAM kind of guy. You may need to try a few, and experiment with temperature. My older son was really picky about warm milk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭catrionanic


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭hollymartins


    Any tips for dealing with mastitis? Baby chomped down on my breast last week then yesterday it was v sore, this morning I have redness on one side of my breast. Do I just keep feeding on this side and it will rectify itself? I don't have a temperature or discharge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    Any tips for dealing with mastitis? Baby chomped down on my breast last week then yesterday it was v sore, this morning I have redness on one side of my breast. Do I just keep feeding on this side and it will rectify itself? I don't have a temperature or discharge

    rest and fed. change feeding positions. If you start getting chills go to doctor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭hollymartins


    Millem wrote: »
    rest and fed. change feeding positions. If you start getting chills go to doctor

    Rest? What's that? :) Thanks Millen, hopefully it'll clear up in a few days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    Rest? What's that? :) Thanks Millen, hopefully it'll clear up in a few days

    I know I know! In an ideal world stay in bed!!
    In the early days I went to baby with the baby and just fed fed fed when we came home from hospital.
    I had mastitis at 6 weeks and I swear the sweats/chills and the shakes are no joke. Go to doc straight away if you feel them coming on.

    Are you in pain? If so I found if duct was clogged warm face cloth on it.
    Some people put nappy on it instead.
    I


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭hollymartins


    She's almost 4 months, plus she has had a stomach bug for the last week so she's very unsettled, she's only been able to nap in my arms the last few days and is up every 2 hours at night feeding so I'm not resting at all really. My breast is sore to touch but actually feeding her is fine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 573 ✭✭✭waterfaerie


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    In anticipation of a new arrival I've just bought a silicon Hakka type breast pump. Never really got to grips with pumping at all with my first two, the older one was getting one bottle of formula and number two refused all attempts at a bottle so just fed direct from source! Anyone have any experience with these types of pumps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭hollymartins


    lazygal wrote: »
    In anticipation of a new arrival I've just bought a silicon Hakka type breast pump. Never really got to grips with pumping at all with my first two, the older one was getting one bottle of formula and number two refused all attempts at a bottle so just fed direct from source! Anyone have any experience with these types of pumps?

    I have one. I use it in the morning when I'm quite full but I've also started expressing in the evening using the medela pump on one side with the hakaa on the other. I usually express more on the hakaa side!

    It can a bit of practice to balance it while feeding so I tend to prop it with a cushion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 573 ✭✭✭waterfaerie


    lazygal wrote: »
    In anticipation of a new arrival I've just bought a silicon Hakka type breast pump. Never really got to grips with pumping at all with my first two, the older one was getting one bottle of formula and number two refused all attempts at a bottle so just fed direct from source! Anyone have any experience with these types of pumps?

    Congratulations Lazygal, that's great news!

    I had great success with the Haakaa. It works while the baby is feeding on the other side. You squeeze it once to create suction and then just place it on and leave it. I found I needed to get it in place before the let down started and then it just filled easily while she fed.

    Like yours, she only ever fed from source (still now at 17 months 99% of her liquid intake is straight from the breast!). I collected it for 6 months and filled a whole freezer but never used the milk.

    It's so easy to use so you should have no problem.

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  • Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hi ladies. I'm looking for advice from anyone who successfully increased their milk supply.

    I have a four week old baby. I have PCOS and had insulin dependent gestational diabetes. Baby was induced a week early.

    I worked very very hard to produce colostrum in advance of the birth and produced only about 2ml, despite workshops and consultations and constant work at home.

    When baby was born he latched for the first feed and got some colostrum. Then his blood sugars were measuring very low and it was recommended that he receive both a glucose feed and a formula feed. This raised his sugars thank goodness.

    He never latched again.

    I tried really hard with latching, working for 45 minutes at each feed for the first week before relenting and giving formula to a screaming starving child. He lost 10% of his birth weight in that week.

    I decided then we needed to introduce the breast at relaxed times when baby was not ravenous. This has worked and he has gone from screaming at the sight of the breast to bring relaxed by it.

    However. He still cannot latch without the help of nipple shields (which are a godsend) and despite pumping non stop my milk has dried up, going from 50ml total at each expressing session to 10ml total. I'm absolutely gutted.

    Further I had an infection and was given an antibiotic that apparently will have reduced my milk even more.

    I have an appointment booked with a lactation consultant this week. I've been waiting 3 weeks for it.

    I realise I'm not hydrated enough and not eating enough. The breastfeeding problems are only one of a range - I had a post dural headache necessitating spinal surgery and the baby also has colic, crying round the clock, despite gaining weight well and having good digestion (apart from the gassy pain, poor thing).

    What I want to know is if anyone has successfully increased their milk supply significantly and if so how they did it. Google throws up lots of trite rubbish on this subject like "You're probably producing enough! Don't worry!" Yeah well 40ml a day for a baby that needs a litre is not enough. I'd be happy at this stage with 100ml a day so he would get the nutrition from it.

    Tomorrow I'm going to try to eat porridge, drink milk and fennel tea and stay hyper hydrated. Rest is not really an option right now and relaxing is a challenge.

    Can anyone help?


  • Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I should add - at present I put baby on the breast for ten minutes (or until my milk runs out) at the start of each feed. I then top up with formula and pump afterwards. An hour of pumping will produce no more than 10ml.

    Thanks in advance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭scarepanda


    Food, water and rest (I know!) Will help massively. If you've no other children at home, set yourself up with plenty of snacks and water and set up camp on an armchair with the TV on (best way I could rest in those early stages) and forget all the other things you could be doing. Try as best you can to relax as this will also affect your supply.

    I didn't necessarily have very low supply, but it was slow coming in and I certainly didn't have an oversupply when it did come in and did have to try increase it on a number of occasions. I was recommended fenugreek in the hospital and combined with porridge I did notice a difference. Even after supply was well established, if I went a few days without taking the fenugreek tablets I would notice a difference. I only stopped taking it around 1 year when I was reducing number of nursings/day. ***Only take these types of remedies under supervision/medical recommendations.

    Other physical ways I found helpful was Feeding baby as often as you can (offer breast before bottle) and if possible try nurse baby directly (or pump) between the hours of 1-5am as this is roughly the best time of day for milk production. If you pump you can Powerpump (Google it as I can't remember exactly what you need to do) as it will increase demand and tell your body it needs to produce more at those times of the day. A double pump is better than a single btw. I also found that generally the best time of the day for me to pump was in the morning, after that, even with an established supply I'd get feck all, often less than 1oz. I know you probably already know this, but just incase, don't use pumping amount as a guide to what your baby can nurse, babies are far more efficient than pumps. Some women can pump bucket loads, others just a drop and some none at all and none of it reflects on baby nursing. Both sides for me have always pumped differently, and the leaky one was the hardest!

    You will get people (even lactation consultants) that will tell you not to use shields. Yes you do need to be careful when using them that they don't make the supply situation worse, or baby isn't transferring milk properly, but don't get talked out of using them if a) your very sore or b) baby will not latch without them. If it's because of b) you will need to wean them off slowly. I'm almost finished my nursing journey with my little girl and we have been using shields since day 1 or 2 and they are the only reason I was able to last 2 years.

    So to answer your main question, yes I did manage to increase supply, but I also had none of your additional medical complications. Have you contacted your local breastfeding group? They will have lactation consultants, and women with experience of nursing, and possibly even some with similar medical issues as yourself. I'd also rely on your GP for advice (If they are breastfeeding friendly) and (reluctantly) your PHN, although my experience with them, I would err on the side of caution.

    Best of luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭Yoghurt87


    Congrats on your new arrival Mystery Egg. What pump are you using currently? It would be a good idea to get the lactation consultant to check the fit to ensure it's the right size for you (same goes for nipple shields also), as well as checking baby's latch.

    Baby and I had a lot of problems starting out also. I was initially using a Tommee Tippee hand pump but my supply was dwindling rapidly. I bit the bullet and rented the Medela Symphony from Medicare (I was about 3.5 weeks pp at this stage and getting similar to you, about 10-15mls per side) and within a week I was able to express 60-100ml per side, by 6 weeks pp I could express up to 150ml. Do you have support or somebody at home who can keep an eye on baby while you pump?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    Mystery egg I had a terrible breastfeeding experience first time similar to yours in the sense of pumping not latching...wrecked not producing much even with the medela symphony which I rented for a month. Ended up with exhaustion and literally no milk came out :(
    I used to pump during the night...torture I know but that’s when you should get most milk ;)

    You need to get a lactation consultant end of story. They will be able to figure out this latch business for you.

    There is a great gadget by medela which you stick on to your boob and it tube attached you can put formula or breastmilk in it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Lainey_b01


    Ladies looking for your experiences of heading back to work and management of milk and if should consider formula feed.

    Going back in 8weeks baby will be 9months and in upper end for weight. Plan in my head at mo is to feed morning and night with mix of express and water while at childminder. Expressing at work but only for comfort. At moment he mostly going to bed on boob.

    Just wonder is der any argument for introducing a bottle of formula?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭jlm29


    My middle baby was 9 months when I went back, and he was grand on solids and water. Would never take a bottle anyhow.
    My youngest boy was 10 months when I went back. I did send a bottle with him for a while, but he wasn’t that bothered either, so I stopped pumping. At home they would both feed to sleep, but the minder is magical and they go to sleep without for her


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Mystery egg you’ve had a tougher start than many. Talk to your lactation consultant about fenugreek.

    We had trouble latching in early days and I resolved to try for five minutes but then give up if not working as everyone was just getting stressed out. Luckily we all caught on.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭catrionanic


    Lainey_b01 wrote: »
    Ladies looking for your experiences of heading back to work and management of milk and if should consider formula feed.

    Going back in 8weeks baby will be 9months and in upper end for weight. Plan in my head at mo is to feed morning and night with mix of express and water while at childminder. Expressing at work but only for comfort. At moment he mostly going to bed on boob.

    Just wonder is der any argument for introducing a bottle of formula?

    I don't think there's any point in bothering with the hassle of formula at this point. I assume he's well-established on solids at 9 months? I would just feed in the morning and evening and at night on demand, and give him solids and water through the day. You could express a bit for the first week or so for your own peace of mind. He will probably take it when offered, but likely will not actually need it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Mine were both 11 months when I went back to work and I kept on feeding. The second one fed until he was 4.5 years. He never took bottles and I wasn't going to start. He had his meals with food and water in the minder's house and I fed first thing in the morning and if he was awake when I got home in the evening, and he made up for the reduced feeds with extra feeds on weekends. I wouldn't bother with formula at nine months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭Crybabygeeks


    Mystery egg , no advice or pearls of wisdom on increasing supply but want to say you're amazing and doing such a super job for your little one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭Mondo123


    Hi ladies, 7 week old bf baby here. Unfortunately due to circumstances beyond our control we need to end our bf journey. He's not fond of bottles an normally on breast every 2 hours for 30 to 40 min atleast .
    Does anybody have any advice on weaning and how I should go about it?
    Also ideas on how I can get him to buy in to the bottle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭Crybabygeeks


    Mondo123 wrote: »
    Hi ladies, 7 week old bf baby here. Unfortunately due to circumstances beyond our control we need to end our bf journey. He's not fond of bottles an normally on breast every 2 hours for 30 to 40 min atleast .
    Does anybody have any advice on weaning and how I should go about it?
    Also ideas on how I can get him to buy in to the bottle

    Phn advice at a bf meeting was: 1) get someone else to give bottle as they can smell the milk from mum 2) try skin to skin when giving bottle and 3) try giving it when hungry. It's tricky as they get so much more from boob vs. just milk. Also worth trying a few bottles and teats!


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 17,003 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    Mystery Egg, I hope you're doing ok, you're going through an awful lot. Are you on any medication for the PCOS? I have it too, and my lactation consultant said it can affect your supply. I'm on metformin for it, but she also recommended taking Goats Rue and I have noticed that has helped increase my supply.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭scarepanda


    Well ladies, myself and my little girl finished our breastfeeding journey last Friday.

    I just wanted to say thank you to everyone for all the advice and support over the last couple of years. It's been an amazing experience.

    For those just starting out, best of luck! For those possibly considering going on into toddler hood, go for it!!

    Hopefully I'll be back at some stage! Thank you all again!


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