Nvidia RTX Discussion

I think Nvidia are jumping the gun a little here. AdoredTV pointed this out that we are on the cusp, with ray-tracing supplemented by ML algorithms driving scene render time into the "seconds" territory. Maybe these cards, the Quadro ones have enough grunt, but I can't see the consumer versions managing the same except on a small scale.

Definitely exciting to see this tech starting to appear though!

jebidiah wrote: »

Would ray tracing even have any effect on current games retroactively? Or does the game need to be designed from the start with ray tracing in mind?

Just from reading what people are saying on other forums, seems it needs to be baked in from the get-go? Metro Exodus will be the first title of note to incorporate it I think.

If its not a industry standard but rather a propitiatory Nvidia implementation, I'm not interested.

$1000 for overclocked 2080 ti on PNY's own website.

Edit: And taken down soon after.

jebidiah wrote: »

Would ray tracing even have any effect on current games retroactively? Or does the game need to be designed from the start with ray tracing in mind?

I've played around with it in unreal engine. Very easy to implement. Actually far quicker and easier than the traditional process.

Should be easy for devs to offer options for both methods.

Only around 1/4 of that RTX core is dedicated to ray tracing and it's equal or faster in performance to the 4 x Titan V's they had running that UE4 Star Wars ray tracing demo.

I called it a few months back on here. That real time ray tracing was gonna be here within 5 years on a single card. I didn't think it would be this soon.

Granted a very expensive card but the 2070, 2080, 2080ti should all have a ray tracing module/core since they have the RTX tag. The 2060 and below won't. They maintain the GTX tag.

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

If its not a industry standard but rather a propitiatory Nvidia implementation, I'm not interested.

It is since it's Nvidia hardware based. You can do ray tracing without it but it's gonna be slow or it pre renders a lot of the stuff using ray tracing, not real time. Sadly AMD are so far behind in the graphics market I don't see them ever catching up at this stage.

So embrace your Nvidia overlords and cough up 500-1000 for your next upgrade.

TBH I'm not even mad at Nvidia anymore for all this propriety crap. They are the ones pushing things forward. It's AMD's fault for not being competitive at all in the higher end. They put all their apples into Ryzen and have practically killed the graphics division. Maybe they will put some of that Ryzen money into "Ati" now but I won't hold my breath. It's going to be at least another year before they can even compete with Nvidias last gen high end. Never mind these ones.

Deleted User wrote: »

I really hope the pricing of the new cards is going to be in or around the same of a 1080ti at the moment. Roll on 5pm.

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/pricing_leaked_for_zotac_s_upcoming_rtx_2080_2080_ti_series_graphics_cards/1



Pricing for the Zotac cards has leaked and there not pocket friendly!



Pricing leaked for Zotac's upcoming RTX 2080/2080 Ti series graphics cards



There have been plenty of leaks about Nvidia's upcoming Geforce RTX series graphics cards, though so far the exact pricing of the company's next-generation flagship remains a mystery.

Now, thanks to ElchapuzasInformatico, we have pricing leaks for Zotac's custom RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti series graphics cards, which include blower, triple fan and AMP! models.

Zotac's high-end Geforce RTX 2080 Ti AMP! is listed with a price tag of $1,199, while its lover clocked Triple Fan counterpart costs $1,169. On the lower-end of Zotac's high-end Turing lineup comes Nvidia's RTX 2080 AMP!, which is listed with an $839 price tag, while its blower-fan cooled counterpart costs $799.

Both Nvidia's RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti cost more than the company's existing GTX 1080 Ti graphics cards, with the RTX 2080 extending past $1,000, the normal price tag of Nvidia's Geforce Titan series. A hypothetical Turing RTX Titan graphics card may extend to prices of $1,500 or more dramatically increasing the cost of Nvidia's flagship-class consumer products, aside from the Titan V.

I haven't paid to much attention to the hype train but why is the Ti version coming out at the same time as the standard 2080? Seems to me like it would just cannibalize sales!

The Nvidia show at gamescon went live.
Edit:
All specs are wrong....
Now they have my attention.

GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti
Founders Edition
£1,099.00

GEFORCE RTX 2080
Founders Edition
£749.00

GEFORCE RTX 2070
Founders Edition
£569.00

If thats the true prices they won't need to drop the prices of the 10 series cards by much to get rid of stock, they will seem likes bargains.

game4it70 wrote: »

GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti
Founders Edition
£1,099.00

GEFORCE RTX 2080
Founders Edition
£749.00

GEFORCE RTX 2070
Founders Edition
£569.00

If thats the true prices they won't need to drop the prices of the 10 series cards by much to get rid of stock, they will seem likes bargains.

For the 3rd party cards with decent coolers, you can easily add 50 -100 quid to the price.

At least they are using dual fans now on the founders editions.

No 2070's listed on ocuk,strange.

Has there been any benches shown yet to compare with 10 series?

Venom wrote: »

The next gen consoles are supposed to be using AMD CPU's and GPU's so I don't think this raytracing stuff will be a factor in console games at all and just be like the current Nvidia softworks stuff, its something that most people turn off to get better fps.



There was also very little comparison fps wise to previous gen cards so is this just raytacing and not the huge performance boost the 10 series cards came with?

That's why I was curious, as I did remember about AMD.
Now we need to wait for new GPU from them?
5 times faster than Titan sounds better.

Nvidia's ray tracing is still directX 12 based.

There is no reason why AMD could not do something similar with their own hardware based ray tracing core.

2070 will only be that much faster in heavily ray traced scenes. Probably around equal performance in normal rasterised scenes.