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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,613 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    Are those things costly to run? When you say ‘we’ you weren’t alone then? Just curious as I’m not someone who would be into camping.

    My wife and i and 1 kid. 4 cans for around 11 euro lasted 3-4 weeks. We used a steamer, 3 pots 1 on top of the other.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Ginger83 wrote: »
    My wife and i and 1 kid. 4 cans for around 11 euro lasted 3-4 weeks. We used a steamer, 3 pots 1 on top of the other.

    That’s not bad at all in fairness . The stuff sounds cheap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Contributors to Society Party is desperately needed now.

    CSP.

    But the meeja will not allow it at all. Think on that.

    Maybe join Justin Barretts party then?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,109 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Ginger83 wrote: »
    We used a 1 ring camping stove from argos for over a year until we could afford a cooker, you know the ones with the cans of gas?

    I always laugh at the looks i got buying camping gas with snow outside :D
    Pity more can't be like you
    Another issue is credit lot of people will get stuff they cannot afford and put it on credit which usually means they end up paying twice the price in the end. Some will then say f*ck it and just not pay it.

    There is a lot of that in society today where they see it as they have to keep up with the joneses and it's everyone else's fault.
    There is no personal responsibility these days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,754 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Maybe join Justin Barretts party then?


    ah but the media won't allow them get into power. even if they get enough votes. or something.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,630 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Maybe join Justin Barretts party then?

    He's far right and aligned helped lead the pro life movement. Pretty sure he's anti immigration too which isn't a good idea as we need more immigration to smooth out our national pension defecit that's coming down the road.
    What we need is a completely new party that want to:
    separate church from state
    Pro choice
    Pro immigration
    Pro welfare reform (to stop the likes of cash)
    Pro flat rate tax (to make sure everyone contributes)
    Pro hard line on criminals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,409 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I'd vote for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,516 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    tom1ie wrote: »
    He's far right and aligned helped lead the pro life movement. Pretty sure he's anti immigration too which isn't a good idea as we need more immigration to smooth out our national pension defecit that's coming down the road.
    What we need is a completely new party that want to:
    separate church from state
    Pro choice
    Pro immigration
    Pro welfare reform (to stop the likes of cash)
    Pro flat rate tax (to make sure everyone contributes)
    Pro hard line on criminals.

    I’d be for everyone of those as long as each immigrant had a criminal record check throughout Europe.
    I’ve worked with a lot of nationalities and everyone of them has been excellent workers in Ireland and proud when they got their Irish citizenship which a lot of us take for granted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,677 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Contributors to Society Party is desperately needed now.

    CSP.

    But the meeja will not allow it at all. Think on that.

    To hell with the meeja, they wouldn’t be able to do much about it ... they can’t control boards, social media etc ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭keith_sixteen


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    To hell with the meeja, they wouldn’t be able to do much about it ... they can’t control boards, social media etc ...

    There's nothing to control. Can be just dismissed as keyboard warriors.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,002 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    She gets a grand a week into her hand courtesy of the taxpayer.
    Tell me why she was unable to find a home anywhere and was forced to sleep rough with her brood?

    A grand a week with 7 mouths to feed 7 bodies to clothes goes nowhere.

    In 2009 I lost my job & I was on the dole for a year & a half, couldn't afford a flat of my of my own so I had to share with 3 other lads, and money was still tight, I got my dole on Monday and it was gone by the Saturday.


    dont have kids if yiu cant afford them. at the very least having more than three and not working isnt smart


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭autumnbelle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,155 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Maybe join Justin Barretts party then?

    Anything constructive to add to the convo?

    Well just looking at the like you got, you can keep them company with my approval.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,155 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    To hell with the meeja, they wouldn’t be able to do much about it ... they can’t control boards, social media etc ...

    Sadly a lot of people buy newspapers, or click online. And there is only one view emerging now from all quarters.

    Boards is not accessed by many who buy de papers. SM is for the bewildered who want to be as good as those who post. I've been off it for a few years, and it's great!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph



    Maggie needs her flat furnished


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,754 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    dont have kids if yiu cant afford them. at the very least having more than three and not working isnt smart


    it's a bit late to throw out that soundbite now. the kids exist.

    because they will own their own house. they will have greater opportunities to clime up the ladder. they will have a chance of promotion to a better job and earn more money. in my book those would be huge reasons.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    because they will own their own house. they will have greater opportunities to clime up the ladder. they will have a chance of promotion to a better job and earn more money. in my book those would be huge reasons.
    Or, work their arse off just to be on leveling playing field....




    Sad state...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Filmer Paradise


    deco nate wrote: »
    I won't delete it, however I thought it was a post agreeing with him, but thanks for your consideration of my post.
    And after reading it again, I still believe it was. If I am wrong I apologise.
    But it's in the wording of the post. Quoting poster but using "he" and not "you" lead me to my comment.

    You were wrong.

    Very wrong.:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Maggie needs her flat furnished tubes tied.
    Better


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    That piebald has bolted


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,109 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    The funny thing is many who support her and her choices would turn and say a woman who doesn't want kids or is not maternal has something wrong with them. Its more acceptable for someone who cannot afford children or work to have 7 children and expect the state to fund them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭HIB


    we have to legally pay tax. she's from dublin and needs housing, everywhere else has people needing housing, that is why she's dublin's problem to deal with.



    there are people outside dublin needing housing already. it is not the job of places outside dublin, to take the social housing tenants of dublin, when they have their own people to help, with little to no chances of being given the extra resources needed to help a large amount of people compared to what they would be used to. they barely have the resources to help who they need to help as it is, and are unlikely to get more. sorry, miss cash is your problem.



    again, the arse end of nowhere has it's own people needing help. and yes i'd suspect she likely does need resources given she is a wellfare dependant.

    You’re correct in your assessment of how the system currently works I.e. each local authority is responsible for housing people in need, in its own area. And yes, under the current system, Ms Cash is they responsibility of Dublin co council(city council?)

    What I’m saying is, that the system should be changed. It should be made possible for cases like Ms Cash to be transferred to other county councils, where rents are cheaper, and a portion of Dublin co councils housing budget should transfer with them. That way, the exchequer pays less, as we are renting houses in more affordable areas. And it has the added benefit of reducing housing pressure(and ultimately rents) in places like Dublin. I expect though that policy changes like this will never happen. Just look at how Cork city and county council can’t agree where to draw a line on a map, and you get a feeling for how entrenched, unimaginative and generally inept local govt leadership is.

    On the issue of extra resources for Ms Cash. She doesn’t need any. She is more than adequately provided for. It’s a mantra of charitable organizations like the SVP that you must help people to become self sufficient and not dependent on charity. They recognize that there is such a thing as giving too much help. I feel we are at risk of doing that with families like the Cash family


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,490 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    tom1ie wrote: »
    He's far right and aligned helped lead the pro life movement. Pretty sure he's anti immigration too which isn't a good idea as we need more immigration to smooth out our national pension defecit that's coming down the road.
    What we need is a completely new party that want to:
    separate church from state
    Pro choice
    Pro immigration
    Pro welfare reform (to stop the likes of cash)
    Pro flat rate tax (to make sure everyone contributes)
    Pro hard line on criminals.
    I'd vote for that if it was vetted immigration.
    IE everyone is welcome once we can ascertain your intentions are to do good, work here and not attack us or our society. In other words not the "merkel" disaster.


    Got my unquestioned support on everything else.

    Like I said here earlier on this thread
    ELM327 wrote: »
    I was a renua member.
    I thought they would move a bit left on abortion as the party grew, and I agreed with the rest of their policies (tough on crime, 3 strikes you're out, flat tax, etc).
    But they didnt, and since anti abortionists now make up less than 1/3 of the electorate, I guess the subset of those anti abortion that are also pro renua are very small indeed.


    We should set up the "Boards Rational Political Party"... and just implement common sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭Cina


    Taylor365 wrote: »
    Or, work their arse off just to be on leveling playing field....




    Sad state...

    Me and my girlfriend are probably on the high end of salaries in Ireland for your normal worker (Software Dev and teacher) and even we could only afford a mortgage on 2 bed place in North Dublin and will probably never be able to have more than 2 kids.

    I don't even think it's a level playing field, she's winning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Cina wrote: »
    Me and my girlfriend are probably on the high end of salaries in Ireland for your normal worker (Software Dev and teacher) and even we could only afford a mortgage on 2 bed place in North Dublin and will probably never be able to have more than 2 kids.

    I don't even think it's a level playing field, she's winning.

    You can never ever compete with the likes of Ms Cash.

    A job isn’t for life anymore, those on welfare have a guaranteed source of income with no fear of the sack,redundancy etc.

    It’s a state financial babysitting service now.

    The laws will never change drastically to enable a serious reform and drive people off it, the lifers currently on it 10/15/20 years are unemployable and will remain so.

    Who’d employ someone in their 30’s/40’s/50’s with no work experience of any form in their cv?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,630 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    You can never ever compete with the likes of Ms Cash.

    A job isn’t for life anymore, those on welfare have a guaranteed source of income with no fear of the sack,redundancy etc.

    It’s a state financial babysitting service now.

    The laws will never change drastically to enable a serious reform and drive people off it, the lifers currently on it 10/15/20 years are unemployable and will remain so.

    Who’d employ someone in their 30’s/40’s/50’s with no work experience of any form in their cv?

    Well whatever about the lifers that are on it, we can’t do much about them, but we do have a duty to stop this merry go round at some point to stop encouraging young people into a welfare life.
    Someone should tell Regina Doherty Putting up PRSI to fo fund welfare is not the way to do that, indeed it only harms society further.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Cina wrote: »
    Me and my girlfriend are probably on the high end of salaries in Ireland for your normal worker (Software Dev and teacher) and even we could only afford a mortgage on 2 bed place in North Dublin and will probably never be able to have more than 2 kids.

    I don't even think it's a level playing field, she's winning.

    If you cut out the trips to the salon, the weekends out pi55ing cash down the toilet and buying every new iPhone, you would be surprised what and how many children can be afforded. But you can't be buying them all playstations and drones. Me and the OH have more than 2 kids and have a 3 bed semi in Dublin in an average area with similar jobs to you. It's tight, but we have never let money get in the way of family growth. We have always found a way.

    On topic: The stunt pulled by that woman is not uncommon and it is disgusting how some people treat the rest of us as piggy banks.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,677 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    If you cut out the trips to the salon, the weekends out pi55ing cash down the toilet and buying every new iPhone, you would be surprised what and how many children can be afforded. But you can't be buying them all playstations and drones. Me and the OH have more than 2 kids and have a 3 bed semi in Dublin in an average area with similar jobs to you. It's tight, but we have never let money get in the way of family growth. We have always found a way.

    On topic: The stunt pulled by that woman is not uncommon and it is disgusting how some people treat the rest of us as piggy banks.
    the primary Abuser of us here is the government facilitating this bull****, even more so than ms moneybags, sorry, ms cash ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,677 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Well whatever about the lifers that are on it, we can’t do much about them, but we do have a duty to stop this merry go round at some point to stop encouraging young people into a welfare life.
    Someone should tell Regina Doherty Putting up PRSI to fo fund welfare is not the way to do that, indeed it only harms society further.
    I wouldn’t agree about the lifers, they May be unemployable. But that doesn’t mean you can’t substantially reduce their payments ...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭BobMc


    You can never ever compete with the likes of Ms Cash.

    A job isn’t for life anymore, those on welfare have a guaranteed source of income with no fear of the sack,redundancy etc.

    It’s a state financial babysitting service now.

    The laws will never change drastically to enable a serious reform and drive people off it, the lifers currently on it 10/15/20 years are unemployable and will remain so.

    Who’d employ someone in their 30’s/40’s/50’s with no work experience of any form in their cv?

    Agree here its the lifers and the merry go round, so We've Mrs Cash + 7

    how many will work and not contribute from the 7, how many children will the 7 have and do same, pyramid grows fast, this group get larger, those paying to fund it ie the 2 and 3 kid families quickly become outnumbered, and will have to be taxed more to fund it all. This is already happening it not something to fear in 10/15 yrs., its happening now today


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