Marian Finucane

Spanish Eyes · 18-08-2018 09:25PM

Mary seems to be a tad Unhinged now. But she voluntarily went to Rome to study Theology.

Why do that if you have all these issues with the CC that didn't just happen yesterday?

Baffled.

Spanish Eyes · 18-08-2018 09:27PM

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

I don't know what it is, but I think that she must be ill. cos there could be no other justification for such prolonged absences. Not on the money that she's on.

Not at all. She is fine. Just getting her breath back for 8 hours over the weekend very soon now. Oh the joys. It is in her contract I am sure.

honeybear · 18-08-2018 09:48PM

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

I don't know what it is, but I think that she must be ill. cos there could be no other justification for such prolonged absences. Not on the money that she's on.

This happens EVERY Summer

padd b1975 · 18-08-2018 10:15PM

DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »

The Church is old fashioned, that's the point of it. It's not supposed to change its teachings to align with current fashionable opinion. When I heard the Irish Hillary Clinton was being interviewed I switched off the radio. She has no interest in the future of the Church. All she wants, and craves, is constant attention.

She’s never missed an opportunity to virtue signal since her son came out of the closet.

DickSwiveller Returns · 18-08-2018 10:21PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

She’s never missed an opportunity to virtue signal since her son came out of the closet.

I noticed he had put up signs around South Dublin, asking people to attend a meeting about housing. This is usually the first step for a prospective politician. The cynic in me wonders whether Saint Mary's recent outbursts, and the photo op with her son at gay pride, have anything to do with his future career........

padd b1975 · 18-08-2018 10:27PM

DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »

I noticed he had put up signs around South Dublin, asking people to attend a meeting about housing. This is usually the first step for a prospective politician. The cynic in me wonders whether Saint Mary's recent outbursts, and the photo op with her son at gay pride, have anything to do with his future career........

Yeah he's definitely looking for a FF nomination.

He managed to get himself a nice fluffy interview with SO'R a few months ago to announce it on the back of his mother throwing her toys out of the pram over something or other.

anthonyjmaher · 19-08-2018 10:19AM

I just heard the promo for the show earlier today when Brendan read out a text message to Nora Casey last week - "We have just got a text from Justin McAleese who says that his mother did not get an invitation". Honestly are RTE now a messenger service for the McAleese family? Would it not have been a more mature reaction to give Nora Casey the benefit of the doubt and contact her after the show?

Beechwoodspark · 19-08-2018 10:24AM

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

I just heard the promo for the show earlier today when Brendan read out a text message to Nora Casey last week - "We have just got a text from Justin McAleese who says that his mother did not get an invitation". Honestly are RTE now a messenger service for the McAleese family? Would it not have been a more mature reaction to give Nora Casey the benefit of the doubt and contact her after the show?

The bould Justin is gearing up for a run in the next election so he needs all the publicity he can get.

anthonyjmaher · 19-08-2018 10:28AM

I think it would be a good point if Wendy Grace pointed out that RTE themselves had a staff member that is up on charges of soliciting a young girl. So it is not unique to the Church. That would put Brendan back in his box. I'm not a fan of the Church, but there were probably a higher percentage of BBC presenters that were sexual abusers than priests, and BBC don't seemed to be held to the same moral standard by RTE.

batgoat · 19-08-2018 10:31AM

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

I think it would be a good point if Wendy Grace pointed out that RTE themselves had a staff member that is up on charges of soliciting a young girl. So it is not unique to the Church. That would put Brendan back in his box. I'm not a fan of the Church, but there were probably a higher percentage of BBC presenters that were sexual abusers than priests, and BBC don't seemed to be held to the same moral standard by RTE.

RTE have not engaged in a large scale cover up of sexual abuse. So no that would not make sense. Two of the keynote speakers can't go next week because they've been implicated in the coverup that was revealed during the week.

Oops69 · 19-08-2018 10:32AM

The Priest is still living in the dark ages, he had to murmur LGBT under his breath and ' a petting session in the car ' as a euphemism for child rape , even though he thinks he's enlightened now... god help us .

Oops69 · 19-08-2018 10:37AM

Mc Aleese will probably surprise us all and throw her Tiara into the presidential election again , I'm not aware if she's constitutionally barred and she's only 67 .

Itssoeasy · 19-08-2018 10:45AM

Oops69 wrote: »

Mc Aleese will probably surprise us all and throw her Tiara into the presidential election again , I'm not aware if she's constitutionally barred and she's only 67 .

It's two terms which is fourteen years so she can't run again. If she wasn't barred she'd have run again in 2011 wouldn't she ?

FrancieBrady · 19-08-2018 11:05AM

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

I think it would be a good point if Wendy Grace pointed out that RTE themselves had a staff member that is up on charges of soliciting a young girl. So it is not unique to the Church. That would put Brendan back in his box. I'm not a fan of the Church, but there were probably a higher percentage of BBC presenters that were sexual abusers than priests, and BBC don't seemed to be held to the same moral standard by RTE.

What's with all the 'look over there' stuff?

It is right and proper that this organisation comes under intense scrutiny this week.

Callan57 · 19-08-2018 11:09AM

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

I just heard the promo for the show earlier today when Brendan read out a text message to Nora Casey last week - "We have just got a text from Justin McAleese who says that his mother did not get an invitation". Honestly are RTE now a messenger service for the McAleese family? Would it not have been a more mature reaction to give Nora Casey the benefit of the doubt and contact her after the show?

I loved Brendan's quip .... "Maybe you might just resend the email"

:):)

Brendan Bendar · 19-08-2018 11:11AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What's with all the 'look over there' stuff?

It is right and proper that this organisation comes under intense scrutiny this week.

Correct Francie, God forbid that any beleaguered organisation would resort to ‘whataboutery’,as a pseudo justification for their actions.

:cool:

FrancieBrady · 19-08-2018 11:13AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Correct Francie, God forbid that any beleaguered organisation would resort to ‘whataboutery’,as a pseudo justification for their actions.

:cool:

Somebody's obsession is reaching crisis levels. :rolleyes:

Callan57 · 19-08-2018 11:14AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Somebody's obsession is reaching crisis levels. :rolleyes:

The Francie v Brendan phony war :eek:

Oops69 · 19-08-2018 11:15AM

1203- 1220 -- Trump bashing segment every week since his election.

FrancieBrady · 19-08-2018 11:16AM

Callan57 wrote: »

The Francie v Brendan phony war :eek:

Ask yourself who is shoehorning their obsession into every discussion that evolves on this thread.

Deusexmachina · 19-08-2018 11:24AM

Mary Mc Aleese appears to be subconsciously on a crusade to psychologically cope with her son being gay.

Her obsession with the Catholic Church is odd. If she doesn't agree with it, she could just leave it and ignore it (like mst of us have done). Bt she is picking at the scab.

I agree with those posters above that this could be a very cynical attempt to launch her son's political career.

Nothing would surprise me about Irish politicians. Just look at the current incumbent in the Aras - promising the electorate he would only run for one term and then 'changing his mind'.

Horrible greedy bastards, the whole lot of them.

honeybear · 19-08-2018 11:32AM

Brendan asking important hard questions

dxhound2005 · 19-08-2018 11:33AM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

Mary Mc Aleese appears to be subconsciously on a crusade to psychologically cope with her son being gay.

I agree with those posters above that this could be a very cynical attempt to launch her son's political career.

Which do you think is the more likely?

batgoat · 19-08-2018 12:20PM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

Mary Mc Aleese appears to be subconsciously on a crusade to psychologically cope with her son being gay.

Her obsession with the Catholic Church is odd. If she doesn't agree with it, she could just leave it and ignore it (like mst of us have done). Bt she is picking at the scab.

I agree with those posters above that this could be a very cynical attempt to launch her son's political career.

Nothing would surprise me about Irish politicians. Just look at the current incumbent in the Aras - promising the electorate he would only run for one term and then 'changing his mind'.

Horrible greedy bastards, the whole lot of them.

It's astounding me that people such as yourself are entirely diverting from the issue being discussed.

Niles Crane · 19-08-2018 01:00PM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

Mary Mc Aleese appears to be subconsciously on a crusade to psychologically cope with her son being gay.

Her obsession with the Catholic Church is odd. If she doesn't agree with it, she could just leave it and ignore it (like mst of us have done). Bt she is picking at the scab.

I agree with those posters above that this could be a very cynical attempt to launch her son's political career.

Nothing would surprise me about Irish politicians. Just look at the current incumbent in the Aras - promising the electorate he would only run for one term and then 'changing his mind'.

Horrible greedy bastards, the whole lot of them.

100% agree.

Of course McAleese will never be called out for it.With her being a female former politician, son being gay and her spending all her time bashing the church she has the perfect combination to be a complete sacred cow in this country.

She was President for 14 years and never said one thing about the church and now when she is out of office can't shut up about the church, surely when she was president would have been a far better time to have misgivings about the Church and as you pointed out it's very easy to deal with the church if you have issues with it just don't be a member anymore.

batgoat · 19-08-2018 01:04PM

Niles Crane wrote: »

100% agree.

Of course McAleese will never be called out for it.With her being a female former politician, son being gay and her spending all her time bashing the church she has the perfect combination to be a complete sacred cow in this country.

She was President for 14 years and never said one thing about the church and now when she is out of office can't shut up about the church, surely when she was president would have been a far better time to have misgivings about the Church and as you pointed out it's very easy to deal with the church if you have issues with it just don't be a member anymore.

That last line simply does not work, this does not do anything to prevent institutional cover ups from occurring..... You can call it church bashing all you want but the church continues to behave terribly in relation to child protection.

Deusexmachina · 19-08-2018 10:54PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Which do you think is the more likely?

It may be both. The way she is talking in recent interviews sounds slightly unhinged.

dxhound2005 · 20-08-2018 07:36AM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

It may be both. The way she is talking in recent interviews sounds slightly unhinged.

She would have to pay big money to a therapist to get this sort of of analysis.

serfboard · 20-08-2018 11:51AM

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

I think it would be a good point if Wendy Grace pointed out that RTE themselves had a staff member that is up on charges of soliciting a young girl. So it is not unique to the Church.

It's not unique to the Church to have child abusers as part of its organisation - that's true.

What is unique about the church is the superiors of the abusers knowing about the abuse, covering it up and moving the abuser to a new area where they could start again.

The only way your analogy works is if the hierarchy in RTE knew about the abuser in their staff, attempted to buy the silence of his accusers, and then moved him to another office without informing the Guards. Since that didn't happen then your analogy doesn't hold.

anthonyjmaher · 20-08-2018 04:41PM

serfboard wrote: »

It's not unique to the Church to have child abusers as part of its organisation - that's true.

My point was not to make an analogy between RTE and the Church, but to point that there are child abusers everywhere. Listening to RTE you would think that child abusers only existed within the environs of the Church, yet RTE themselves had an abuser among their senior staff.

You could create an analogy with the BBC, where senior management knew of all of the accusations and the witnesses who saw at least Savile touching kids and left him to it. Yet RTE have never had a bad word for BBC management. Maybe they don't want to p1ss them off in case they want to take Tubridy off their hands.

Just listening to DriveTime there and they were reading more updates from the Justin McAleese Twitter feed. Won't be long before they have a section of the website devoted to his utterances.

Marian Finucane

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