Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

end of the road · 19-08-2018 12:19AM

Anthracite wrote: »

Also a convicted criminal. I presume they keep statistics on that stuff too.

i'd imagine they do, yes

Melendez · 19-08-2018 12:19AM

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Anthracite · 19-08-2018 12:19AM

end of the road wrote: »

wherever she needs to commute to.

Then let her f*cking commute like the people who actually pay A) for their homes and

for the privilege of f*cking commuting.

Except she does it all for free, and has nothing else to do with her time as she doesn't even f*cking work.

Anthracite · 19-08-2018 12:21AM

Melendez wrote: »

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Not yet. We both know they will be, with victims who are ordinary people like my family and yours, if you have one.

You keep seeming to miss my question about the sustainability of paying for criminals to have huge families while the actual workers have small ones.

Seth Brundle · 19-08-2018 12:23AM

Anthracite wrote: »

Except she does it all for free, and has nothing else to do with her time as she doesn't even f*cking work.

In fairness she's been involved with at least one job in the past!

Atlantic Dawn · 19-08-2018 12:24AM

Anthracite wrote: »

This woman should be put wherever is cheapest. Where the hell does she need to commute to?

€800 a month 5 bed, Longford...

https://www.daft.ie/longford/houses-for-rent/granard/leitrim-coolarty-granard-longford-1861322/

Melendez · 19-08-2018 12:24AM

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Anthracite · 19-08-2018 12:27AM

Seth Brundle wrote: »

In fairness she's been involved with at least one job in the past!

Fair point. I should clarify that I don't mean handling stolen goods.

Anthracite · 19-08-2018 12:27AM

Melendez wrote: »

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It's a stupid question?

So it's not stupid to facilitate it, but it's stupid to ask IF we should faciliate it?

Wow.

I suppose the equivalent would be you saying that it is stupid to do research into global warming, because asking if current use of fossil fuels is sustainable is stupid - what are you going to do, euthanise all the children?

FFS. Total intellectual dishonesty.

end of the road · 19-08-2018 12:29AM

Anthracite wrote: »

Then let her f*cking commute like the people who actually pay A) for their homes and for the privilege of f*cking commuting.

Except she does it all for free, and has nothing else to do with her time as she doesn't even f*cking work.

we are. she will have to get the luas over to collect some of her children from school. she will have to pay to use the luas otherwise an inspector will issue a penalty fare.

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

€800 a month 5 bed, Longford...

https://www.daft.ie/longford/houses-for-rent/granard/leitrim-coolarty-granard-longford-1861322/

little to no resources there to deal with her however, and the county has it's own people needing help. she can stay in dublin, she's your problem.
that rate of rent for a 5 bed is very good though.

Atlantic Dawn · 19-08-2018 12:32AM

end of the road wrote: »

little to no resources there to deal with her however, and the county has it's own people needing help. she can stay in dublin, she's your problem.
that rate of rent for a 5 bed is very good though.

What 'resources' does she need? She's out of work, no mention of looking for work. These people shouldn't be taking up accommodation that should be available to workers in a city who provide funding for their lifestyle choice to exist.

Anthracite · 19-08-2018 12:33AM

end of the road wrote: »

we are. she will have to get the luas over to collect some of her children from school. she will have to pay to use the luas otherwise an inspector will issue a penalty fare.

You honestly think that they won't get free LUAS travel?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

I'd love to live in your world. I really would.

end of the road wrote: »

little to no resources there to deal with her however, and the county has it's own people needing help. she can stay in dublin, she's your problem.
that rate of rent for a 5 bed is very good though.

What resources does she need? Don't they have shops and schools in Longford?

Anthracite · 19-08-2018 12:35AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

What 'resources' does she need? She's out of work, no mention of looking for work. These people shouldn't be taking up accommodation that should be available to workers in a city who provide funding for their lifestyle to exist.

Exactly.

There's a family out there who could be living in the place that Margaret Cash is getting for nothing, who have to live out in the middle of nowhere and commute hours to get to their job, where they work 40 hours a week, to pay tax so that criminals who have no intention of EVER working (according to themselves) can live in the centre of Dublin.

It's Kafkaesque.

Atlantic Dawn · 19-08-2018 12:36AM

Anthracite wrote: »

Exactly.

There's a family out there who could be living in the place that Margaret Cash is getting for nothing, who have to live out in the middle of nowhere and commute hours to get to their job, where they work 40 hours a week, to pay tax so that criminals who have no intention of EVER working (according to themselves) can live in the centre of Dublin.

It's Kafkaesque.

And they have to decide if they should have an unprotected ride in the same way that most people have a meeting prior to taking on a mortgage.

Anthracite · 19-08-2018 12:40AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

And they have to decide if they should have an unprotected ride in the same way that most people have a meeting prior to taking on a mortgage.

Yup. Us poor working class people can't afford to have kids because we need to pay for Margaret Cash's 7 and counting. It's f*cking disgusting.

Oh, and by the way, there's a practically zero percent chance any of her kids will pay tax in their lives either. So your 2 kids are going to have to fund her 7 kids plus THEIR seven EACH. That's nearly 50!

****ing crazy.

tuxy · 19-08-2018 12:40AM

800 is a rip off really. Here's a 5 bed in the middle of a nice town. Only problem is by the time she's a great grandmother(20 years time?) the cash family may be larger than the current community.

https://www.daft.ie/roscommon/houses-for-rent/elphin/main-street-elphin-roscommon-1860096/

Yer Da sells Avon · 19-08-2018 12:43AM

Anthracite wrote: »

Exactly.

There's a family out there who could be living in the place that Margaret Cash is getting for nothing, who have to live out in the middle of nowhere and commute hours to get to their job, where they work 40 hours a week, to pay tax so that criminals who have no intention of EVER working (according to themselves) can live in the centre of Dublin.

It's Kafkaesque.

Of course, the irony is that she doesn't even want to live in the centre of Dublin. She (quite reasonably) would prefer to live within reasonable commuting distance of where her children go to school. This, along with many other reasons, is why the state needs to invest in more publicly owned housing.

Atlantic Dawn · 19-08-2018 12:45AM

Anthracite wrote: »

Yup. Us poor working class people can't afford to have kids because we need to pay for Margaret Cash's 7 and counting. It's f*cking disgusting.

Of my friends the max is generally 2 at the very most, these people work their bollix off and commute from hell, yet I know of dolites on 5 with different fathers living in far better houses, it's a fooking disgrace, you can't spread your wings when working your balls off yet someone sitting on their hole will always beat you.

Viscosity1 · 19-08-2018 12:49AM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

Of course, the irony is that she doesn't even want to live in the centre of Dublin. She (quite reasonably) would prefer to live within reasonable commuting distance of where her children go to school. This, along with many other reasons, is why the state needs to invest in more publicly owned housing.

Built a house lately? Familiar with recent building regs? Easier to say than do and all.

Publicly owned housing becomes publicly maintained housing. By virtue of the lifestyle choices led by those most dependent on public housing, this becomes a significant issue and I'm not certain our local govt bodies would be able to keep it up.

Yer Da sells Avon · 19-08-2018 12:59AM

Viscosity1 wrote: »

Built a house lately? Familiar with recent building regs? Easier to say than do and all.

Publicly owned housing becomes publicly maintained housing. By virtue of the lifestyle choices led by those most dependent on public housing, this becomes a significant issue and I'm not certain our local govt bodies would be able to keep it up.

I didn't say it would be easy. And I don't accept your classist bullshit about 'lifestyle choices'.

tuxy · 19-08-2018 01:00AM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

Of course, the irony is that she doesn't even want to live in the centre of Dublin. She (quite reasonably) would prefer to live within reasonable commuting distance of where her children go to school. This, along with many other reasons, is why the state needs to invest in more publicly owned housing.

I think the issue was she wanted to be within walking distance of her mothers grave. Some of the stone work they put on those graves would pay for a house.

I know it's not ideal moving kids to a new school but how many working families have to do that in search of a good job? I think she could manage it for a free house.

end of the road · 19-08-2018 01:01AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

What 'resources' does she need? She's out of work, no mention of looking for work. These people shouldn't be taking up accommodation that should be available to workers in a city who provide funding for their lifestyle choice to exist.

she needs whatever the resources that are required to deal with people like her. these people should be taking up accommodation that is in their area, and which is provided based on actual need by the council , and it is what they are doing. a city for workers only is never going to happen. social cleansing doesn't work.

Anthracite wrote: »

You honestly think that they won't get free LUAS travel?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

I'd love to live in your world. I really would.

What resources does she need? Don't they have shops and schools in Longford?

i don't know what she will or won't get, as i don't work for the wellfare department. only they will know what she will meet the criteria to get.

Anthracite wrote: »

There's a family out there who could be living in the place that Margaret Cash is getting for nothing, who have to live out in the middle of nowhere and commute hours to get to their job, where they work 40 hours a week, to pay tax so that criminals who have no intention of EVER working (according to themselves) can live in the centre of Dublin.

there isn't, because if there was such a family, they would already be living in that place. even if mrs cash and people like her weren't living in dublin, the people who choose to live elsewhere and do a long commute would still be in that situation.

Viscosity1 · 19-08-2018 01:07AM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

I didn't say it would be easy. And I don't accept your classist bullshit about 'lifestyle choices'.

Sure, go ahead and naively call for massive outlay of taxpayers funds. Blindly define the structure of incentives and see where that brings us.

Yer Da sells Avon · 19-08-2018 01:10AM

Viscosity1 wrote: »

Sure, go ahead and naively call for massive outlay of taxpayers funds. Blindly define the structure of incentives and see where that brings us.

The taxpayer is already paying massive amounts of money to private landlords via the HAP scheme.

Atlantic Dawn · 19-08-2018 01:12AM

end of the road wrote: »

she needs whatever the resources that are required to deal with people like her. these people should be taking up accommodation that is in their area, and which is provided based on actual need by the council , and it is what they are doing. a city for workers only is never going to happen. social cleansing doesn't work.

So do people from Longford die each week because there's no services in place for them, I've not seen these deaths recorded on RIP.ie each week or on the crooked RTE. People who chose a sitting on their hole career shouldn't be occupying productive accommodation in the county that supports them.

Viscosity1 · 19-08-2018 01:14AM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

The taxpayer is already paying massive amounts of money to private landlords via the HAP scheme.

I think that's the way things will continue to go. From what I've read, the council inspect the property and the landlord is responsible for maintenance from the proceeds. Goes back to my point that its the back-end of this that makes it unsustainable for local authorities.

I think its whether we accept that these homes won't be held by tenant for the rest of their days. Rental market is chaotic. No easy solution unfortunately.

end of the road · 19-08-2018 01:34AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

So do people from Longford die each week because there's no services in place for them, I've not seen these deaths recorded on RIP.ie each week or on the crooked RTE. People who chose a sitting on their hole career shouldn't be occupying productive accommodation in the county that supports them.

they have to occupy productive accommodation, because they need accommodation. hence they are in accommodation. all accommodation is productive. they are in the county that funds them, because it's where they are from, and it has the resources to deal with them. the rest of the country has it's own people needing help, so people like miss cash from dublin, are your problem.

19-08-2018 05:35AM

Going out the door here for a 13 hour shift on a Sunday. You're welcome Maggie and all the other wasters in this fine country.

pjohnson · 19-08-2018 06:08AM

Omackeral wrote: »

Going out the door here for a 13 hour shift on a Sunday. You're welcome Maggie and all the other wasters in this fine country.

We all appreciate your martyrdom. See you here in an hour or so then.

Blazer · 19-08-2018 06:21AM

pjohnson wrote: »

We all appreciate your martyrdom. See you here in an hour or so then.

Nice attitude. Regardless of the op’s job role and whether he’s on boards or not during it he’s still paying usc,prsi and paye which is a damn sight more than Mrs Cash is or is ever likely to.
Not only is she coining it in to the tune of 55k a year but it’s cost us around 80-100k to keep her husband in jail.
Also from the numerous robberies her husbands taken part in they’re obviously bringing in a bit of cash on the side as well. I doubt they’re declaring that to revenue.
Point is they’re leeches on society and provide no service to humanity whatsoever.

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