Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

punisher5112 · 18-08-2018 07:58PM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

A grand a week with 7 mouths to feed 7 bodies to clothes goes nowhere.

In 2009 I lost my job & I was on the dole for a year & a half, couldn't afford a flat of my of my own so I had to share with 3 other lads, and money was still tight, I got my dole on Monday and it was gone by the Saturday.

My heart bleeds.....

Welcome to the real world where many a hard worker is in an even bigger house share as the rents are so high.

This Cash one was given hap so she had most of her rent paid by us tax paying fool's and did she fook contribute her tiny little amount towards it.

This woman hasn't worked a day in her life exactly the same as her husband but yet they have 7 kids and sure when he is out of cloverhill I'm sure another will be on it's way.

Disgraceful for a couple in such difficult circumstances as to have no employment, no morals, no need to aspire to anything other then gimme.... Gimme gimme......no home they actually had to work for or in anyway contribute to.

Amazing little island we have here.

18-08-2018 08:00PM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Yep, it's all a stunt. Several thousand sleeping rough in Dublin every night, stunt, their all just sleeping rough to get ahead of the quee, it's a criminal conspiracy.

I find it shocking the way some posters and the public lump the homeless into one category as if to avoid the plain truth of the matter. We do have a homeless problem, just we've had one for decades. It relates to the people who due to psychological issues, drugs, or other social problems can't hold down a job or live within normal society. These are the true homeless.

However, people like Cash, are supported by the State. They're receiving sums of money to provide them with the means to obtain accommodation. And in the case, of Cash (and those like her), she's receiving enough to set herself up quite well.

Dublin is having a supply issue with housing/apartments which drives up the cost dramatically. However, there are other options. One, to get a place which is not "perfect". Two, to leave Dublin and find accommodation outside of the city limits, where there is less demand for housing. And Cash definitely has the financial means do to both.

The fact that you and others are trying to merge the genuine homeless with people like Cash is rather disgusting, and honestly, I think you should be ashamed of yourself.

And so what if it was a stunt? If I was in her shoes I'd pull every string, to make sure my 6 kids get a proper home.

At the expense of everyone else? That just shows how low your moral compass is. Cash is receiving benefits in excess of 56k euro. That's more than many working families in this country.

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

A grand a week with 7 mouths to feed 7 bodies to clothes goes nowhere.

When you live without budgeting, then I can well imagine your need for more than 1k for 8 people. Pure lack of personal responsibility and personal financing. A little effort in picking bargains, or planning your dinners and not getting deliveries or junk food, goes a long way towards reducing the costs.

homerjay2005 · 18-08-2018 08:11PM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Even still tho, over 100 sleeping rough in Dublin in March 2018 is a stain on this island.

population of ireland is 4.8million almost....do that maths, the odds are pretty good.

all things considered, we are one of the best in the world when it comes to sleeping rough. its nobodies fault, its just life.

as regards the 10,000.....almost all have a roof over their head, that again signifies the great work being done, against what is a very difficult social circle to settle

Galwayguy35 · 18-08-2018 08:20PM

end of the road wrote: »

i believe it is a requirement that anyone receiving subsidized rent and or living in social housing must pay a contribution toards their rent as stipulated. if they don't, there are remedies availible, and it is for the authorities to decide whether to use those remedies. those who refuse to re-train/work are likely the type of people who we would not want to have to work with anyway. it is always a bad idea to support a party on the basis of 1 issue only. one should support a party on the basis of their offering as a whole.

the reason people on wellfare don't pay income tax is because they are in need, hence receiving wellfare. people who are working pay income tax because technically we aren't in need. because we have to do it, is not always a viable metric in which to operate something, and wellfare would be one of those areas. + it would be a bit ridiculous and a waste of resources for the government to pay out money and take a bit of it when they could cut it. however to cut it the government are going to have to bring down the over-all cost of living.

you could, but lets look at the logistics. children split up, that's not going to help them.
we apparently have a shortage of foster parents (i'd suspect few people actually want to do it.) so the children or at least some of them remain within the care system and all that brings with it. and in the mean time, actual serious cases have less resources. sounds like quite a lot of hassle just to instill social responsibility and hard work, when that could be done via the school system, for which there are remedies availible if the children don't attend.

Jesus Christ man you are like a broken record, surely even you can see this one is playing the system.

tayto lover · 18-08-2018 08:24PM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

A grand a week with 7 mouths to feed 7 bodies to clothes goes nowhere.

In 2009 I lost my job & I was on the dole for a year & a half, couldn't afford a flat of my of my own so I had to share with 3 other lads, and money was still tight, I got my dole on Monday and it was gone by the Saturday.

I agree that feeding 7 children is not easy BUT neither is 4 or 5 so why did she keep getting pregnant? Durex are the easier and cheaper option surely.

18-08-2018 08:27PM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

A grand a week with 7 mouths to feed 7 bodies to clothes goes nowhere.

In 2009 I lost my job & I was on the dole for a year & a half, couldn't afford a flat of my of my own so I had to share with 3 other lads, and money was still tight, I got my dole on Monday and it was gone by the Saturday.

What a lifestyle you must subscribe to, that children need new clothes every week!

end of the road · 18-08-2018 08:41PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

eh? its them and their ilk thats driving us into a welfare state. just because they are not in government, it doesnt mean the have no influence.

they are not driving us into a wellfare state and they have no real influence. a small amount vote for them, however it doesn't give them any real influence on government.

Grab All Association wrote: »

Fine Gael, Fianna Fáil and Labour are to blame. You can’t blame PBP, Socialist Party, Sinn Féin for this mess.

During the boom McCreevy was increasing child benefit rates at every budget. Lone parent was until recently paid up until the child was 14 Ffs. A woman could live most of her working age life on benefits just by having more children.

With the legalisation of abortion in this country there’s now an opportunity to abolish lone parent and child benefits completely. Sponger turns up at welfare office or CWO seeking to claim money.

“If you cant afford the child the nearest abortion clinic is here for an abortion. Claim rejected, Good day Ms”

Prosecute parent(s) who bring a child into this world without the means to take care of it. Billed by the state for care of the child by HSE/Tusla. (Another topic for another thread)

If you’re a man under 25 you’re only entitled to €100/150 JSA. You don’t seek work and you’re sanctioned. A woman just has to drop out a child and she gets bumped up to full €198 rate on lone parent guaranteed for at least 7 years. Reduced rates should be applicable immediately for Lone Parent Allowance too. It’ll discourage young scumbag families from breeding children like cattle to maximize their incomes.
Abolish child benefits for children born on 00:00 January 2020. Existing claimants paid in lieu of vouchers for food, clothing, educational materials dispensed by schools based on attendance after age 4. Ban school uniforms nationwide or at least have them all the same colour with iron on crests provides by the schools.
I assume the btsa was paid yesterday? All the scumbag type families in Nenagh and Thurles scanning cases of alcohol and party cups at the self service tills.

Priority housing firstly for elderly, disabled, vulnerable/genuinely homeless people, those who’ve lost their houses to the banks and longest on waiting list . Prosecution for neglect and removal of children from parents like Ms Cash who try to jump up the list.

Benefits suspended for any form of antisocial behavior by claimants or their children over 12. Deductions on resumption for any damages/loss they have caused.

Before you think I’ve got something against people on benefits. I support increases for those on JSA genuinely seeking work and disability claimants.

the wellfare office sending someone in the direction of the abortion clinic might quite possibly be a breach of human rights law, it could quite possibly count as an attempted forced abortion. prosecuting parents for having children in circumstances you don't agree with would also quite likely go against human rights law, and billing those parents for taking care of the children when the children could have been left with them would not be financially viable, the bill would never be paid.
i don't believe there is any real proof that reducing rates would discourage young scumbag families from "breeding children like cattle" . also, paying existing claimants in vouchers may not be financially viable as i believe that a lot of businesses don't actually do or take vouchers, so there would need to be quite the incentive for them to do so, which is going to quite likely cost us a lot.
i would certainly agree with educational materials being given to children by the schools should they meet the criteria, and i would agree that there should be the 1 uniform with the crests issued by the school.
prosecution for neglect and removal of children from parents like Ms Cash is not viable and there are no grounds. there would be no benefit for the children and it would take from children who genuinely need the services of the care system. the council can already say no to bumping people up the list.

jjmcclure wrote: »

The 10000 number is fake news.

Those who are truly homeless are those on the streets... many of whom choose to be there and won’t accept emergency accommodation.

100 of 1.8 million is a tiny tiny number.

Homeless crisis = fake news pushed by PBP AAA

it's not fake news. it's reality. AAA and PBP did not make reality happen. a hotel is not a home.

end of the road · 18-08-2018 08:52PM

Deleted User wrote: »

When you live without budgeting, then I can well imagine your need for more than 1k for 8 people. Pure lack of personal responsibility and personal financing. A little effort in picking bargains, or planning your dinners and not getting deliveries or junk food, goes a long way towards reducing the costs.

budgeting doesn't work when costs fluctuate and rise and the money isn't there. rabel rabel about personal responsibility doesn't change reality. those who can budget are doing so. those for who it's not viable, will never be able to do so until it is viable.

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Jesus Christ man you are like a broken record, surely even you can see this one is playing the system.

no, because for me, to play the system, someone has to be actually breaking the rules of that system. so, while some of her behaviour is certainly questionable, she technically isn't breaking the rules and there are remedies availible to deal with her, whether she breaches the rules or where she is doing something questionable. it's on the authorities head to use those remedies however.

Grab All Association · 18-08-2018 08:55PM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

A grand a week with 7 mouths to feed 7 bodies to clothes goes nowhere.

In 2009 I lost my job & I was on the dole for a year & a half, couldn't afford a flat of my of my own so I had to share with 3 other lads, and money was still tight, I got my dole on Monday and it was gone by the Saturday.

There’s charity shops with a massive selection of clothes and Heatons, Tesco, Penney’s you’d swear we only had Abercrombie and Fitch to shop at.
I can feed myself, fiancée and 3 dogs and sometimes have my parents across the street over for dinner for less than €10-15 a week. I buy in bulk and freeze my meat. Good healthy wholesome food is very cheap if you plan out your meals for the week and waste nothing.

You’re saying Ms Cash can’t do this a week?
Sunday
Pork loin roast Tesco €6.99
Carrots €1.79 family pack
Potatoes 4kg €4
Value gravy 0.53c
€13.31

Monday
4 Fish fillets €2.50. 8 = €5
Peas €0.64c
Oven chips €0.75c
Ketchup €0.69c
€7.08

Tuesday
1kg of mince €6 avg
Onion €0.30c
Spaghetti pasta €0.94c
Bolognese sauce x 2 at €0.59c = €1.18
Mushrooms €0.80c
€9.22

€29.61 so far

Wednesday
Beef steak casserole
Onion left over €0
Mushroom left over €0
Stock €0
Carrots left over €0
Spoon of purée
Under €5

Thursday
Lasagne
Mince €6
Onion
Sauces €2
Sheets €0.47c
Cheese €2
€10.47

Friday
Diced fillets €4
Peppers frozen €1
Onion €0.20
Curry powder €0.90
Rice €2
Garlic powder €0,60
€8.70

Saturday
Shepherd pie under €10

Under €64

Cereals under €5

3 x bottles of squash under €3 11 servings per bottle

Milk 7 x 3 litres €2 = 14
€86 total

Do you want me to do school lunches?

jjmcclure · 18-08-2018 08:59PM

I can only assume all the bleeding heart do gooders on here are in/from a similar situation the the scammer we are all talking about.

I can’t see how any hard working person can justify what is going on with the likes of her.

Personal responsibility has been replaced with personal entitlement.

arctictree · 18-08-2018 08:59PM

A number of conflicting reports as to why she was homeless in the first place. She says the house she was renting was repossessed. Others say that she was evicted for not paying her part of the rent. Anyone know the truth?

Grab All Association · 18-08-2018 09:09PM

Grab All Association wrote: »

There’s charity shops with a massive selection of clothes and Heatons, Tesco, Penney’s you’d swear we only had Abercrombie and Fitch to shop at.
I can feed myself, fiancée and 3 dogs and sometimes have my parents across the street over for dinner for less than €10-15 a week. I buy in bulk and freeze my meat. Good healthy wholesome food is very cheap if you plan out your meals for the week and waste nothing.

You’re saying Ms Cash can’t do this a week?
Sunday
Pork loin roast Tesco €6.99
Carrots €1.79 family pack
Potatoes 4kg €4
Value gravy 0.53c
€13.31

Monday
4 Fish fillets €2.50. 8 = €5
Peas €0.64c
Oven chips €0.75c
Ketchup €0.69c
€7.08

Tuesday
1kg of mince €6 avg
Onion €0.30c
Spaghetti pasta €0.94c
Bolognese sauce x 2 at €0.59c = €1.18
Mushrooms €0.80c
€9.22

€29.61 so far

Wednesday
Beef steak casserole
Onion left over €0
Mushroom left over €0
Stock €0
Carrots left over €0
Spoon of purée
Under €5

Thursday
Lasagne
Mince €6
Onion
Sauces €2
Sheets €0.47c
Cheese €2
€10.47

Friday
Diced fillets €4
Peppers frozen €1
Onion €0.20
Curry powder €0.90
Rice €2
Garlic powder €0,60
€8.70

Saturday
Shepherd pie under €10

Under €64

Cereals under €5

3 x bottles of squash under €3 11 servings per bottle

Milk 7 x 3 litres €2 = 14
€86 total

Do you want me to do school lunches?

Bread €0.69 x 7 (5 school days) €4.83
Spread €0.99
Ham slices €1.60 30 slice
Cheese singles €2
Yogurts €5
Fruits under €5

€106.11??

18-08-2018 09:12PM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Yep, it's all a stunt. Several thousand sleeping rough in Dublin every night....

Haven't read past this post but what a crock of absolute cow dung. As well as calling people Nazis, you're just an out and out liar. Thousands sleeping rough. FFS!

18-08-2018 09:12PM

Grab All Association wrote: »

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

A grand a week with 7 mouths to feed 7 bodies to clothes goes nowhere.

In 2009 I lost my job & I was on the dole for a year & a half, couldn't afford a flat of my of my own so I had to share with 3 other lads, and money was still tight, I got my dole on Monday and it was gone by the Saturday.

There’s charity shops with a massive selection of clothes and Heatons, Tesco, Penney’s you’d swear we only had Abercrombie and Fitch to shop at.
I can feed myself, fiancée and 3 dogs and sometimes have my parents across the street over for dinner for less than €10-15 a week. I buy in bulk and freeze my meat. Good healthy wholesome food is very cheap if you plan out your meals for the week and waste nothing.

You’re saying Ms Cash can’t do this a week?
Sunday
Pork loin roast Tesco €6.99
Carrots €1.79 family pack
Potatoes 4kg €4
Value gravy 0.53c
€13.31

Monday
4 Fish fillets €2.50. 8 = €5
Peas €0.64c
Oven chips €0.75c
Ketchup €0.69c
€7.08

Tuesday
1kg of mince €6 avg
Onion €0.30c
Spaghetti pasta €0.94c
Bolognese sauce x 2 at €0.59c = €1.18
Mushrooms €0.80c
€9.22

€29.61 so far

Wednesday
Beef steak casserole
Onion left over €0
Mushroom left over €0
Stock €0
Carrots left over €0
Spoon of purée
Under €5

Thursday
Lasagne
Mince €6
Onion
Sauces €2
Sheets €0.47c
Cheese €2
€10.47

Friday
Diced fillets €4
Peppers frozen €1
Onion €0.20
Curry powder €0.90
Rice €2
Garlic powder €0,60
€8.70

Saturday
Shepherd pie under €10

Under €64

Cereals under €5

3 x bottles of squash under €3 11 servings per bottle

Milk 7 x 3 litres €2 = 14
€86 total

Do you want me to do school lunches?

Ah, here. Don’t be coming on here with sensible, logical suggestions.

18-08-2018 09:22PM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

A grand a week with 7 mouths to feed 7 bodies to clothes goes nowhere.

"Several thousands sleeping rough"

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say maths is not your strong point.

jjmcclure · 18-08-2018 09:22PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Haven't read past this post but what a crock of absolute cow dung. As well as calling people Nazis, you're just an out and out liar. Thousands sleeping rough. FFS!

I think balcombe is the press secretary for PBP :pac:

Galwayguy35 · 18-08-2018 09:24PM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

And sorry that's my mix-up I should have said homeless not sleeping rough.

https://www.focusireland.ie/resource-hub/about-homelessness/

So nearly 10,000 homeless people in Ireland.

Even still tho, over 100 sleeping rough in Dublin in March 2018 is a stain on this island.

They are not homeless, they live in hotels free of charge and while it's not ideal they have a warm place to live and a roof over their heads.

They way you lot in SF and the hard left go on you'd swear they were all packed into a shed.

You might remember what Connor Skehan had to say as to why the figure is so high, a man that I'd suggest knows a lot more about this issue and you or I.

Galwayguy35 · 18-08-2018 09:33PM

end of the road wrote: »

no, because for me, to play the system, someone has to be actually breaking the rules of that system. so, while some of her behaviour is certainly questionable, she technically isn't breaking the rules and there are remedies availible to deal with her, whether she breaches the rules or where she is doing something questionable. it's on the authorities head to use those remedies however.

I didn't say she broke any rules but she definitely played the system to her advantage, one week after her little stunt in the cop shop she has a place in the city centre and she is still whinging about it saying "it will do for now".

What's the odds that she was bumped up the list ahead of others by the council just to make the story go away, a story aided by fools in the media.

mickdw · 18-08-2018 09:38PM

Grab All Association wrote: »

There’s charity shops with a massive selection of clothes and Heatons, Tesco, Penney’s you’d swear we only had Abercrombie and Fitch to shop at.
I can feed myself, fiancée and 3 dogs and sometimes have my parents across the street over for dinner for less than €10-15 a week. I buy in bulk and freeze my meat. Good healthy wholesome food is very cheap if you plan out your meals for the week and waste nothing.

You’re saying Ms Cash can’t do this a week?
Sunday
Pork loin roast Tesco €6.99
Carrots €1.79 family pack
Potatoes 4kg €4
Value gravy 0.53c
€13.31

Monday
4 Fish fillets €2.50. 8 = €5
Peas €0.64c
Oven chips €0.75c
Ketchup €0.69c
€7.08

Tuesday
1kg of mince €6 avg
Onion €0.30c
Spaghetti pasta €0.94c
Bolognese sauce x 2 at €0.59c = €1.18
Mushrooms €0.80c
€9.22

€29.61 so far

Wednesday
Beef steak casserole
Onion left over €0
Mushroom left over €0
Stock €0
Carrots left over €0
Spoon of purée
Under €5

Thursday
Lasagne
Mince €6
Onion
Sauces €2
Sheets €0.47c
Cheese €2
€10.47

Friday
Diced fillets €4
Peppers frozen €1
Onion €0.20
Curry powder €0.90
Rice €2
Garlic powder €0,60
€8.70

Saturday
Shepherd pie under €10

Under €64

Cereals under €5

3 x bottles of squash under €3 11 servings per bottle

Milk 7 x 3 litres €2 = 14
€86 total

Do you want me to do school lunches?

She would have to be organised, be willing and be able to cook. Most of all have the will / need to be frugal. I've a feeling none of these things apply to Ms Cash.

Melendez · 18-08-2018 09:39PM

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18-08-2018 09:44PM

There’s always the question of whether she’s Margaret Elizabeth Cash or Elizabeth Margaret Cash McCarthy

18-08-2018 09:44PM

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the_syco · 18-08-2018 10:00PM

Melendez wrote: »

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Would renting a room then not be considered homeless?

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Ulysses Gaze · 18-08-2018 10:07PM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

A grand a week with 7 mouths to feed 7 bodies to clothes goes nowhere.

In 2009 I lost my job & I was on the dole for a year & a half, couldn't afford a flat of my of my own so I had to share with 3 other lads, and money was still tight, I got my dole on Monday and it was gone by the Saturday.

A grand a week on food would equate to over €100 per kid (and including herself) with another €200 to spare for sundries. I don't spend even close to that and I am a full grown man.

Can you not see how utterly ridiculous your statement is?

Melendez · 18-08-2018 10:13PM

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One eyed Jack · 18-08-2018 10:14PM

jjmcclure wrote: »

I can only assume all the bleeding heart do gooders on here are in/from a similar situation the the scammer we are all talking about.

I can’t see how any hard working person can justify what is going on with the likes of her.

Personal responsibility has been replaced with personal entitlement.

Rest assured I’m neither a do gooder not a bleeding heart, and safe to say I haven’t pushed out seven children, but I don’t have to be any of that or have gone through any of that, I don’t even have to be a hard working person (which is a good thing because the work I do really isn’t that hard by any stretch :pac:).

None of that has any effect on why I can justifiably see what’s going on with this particular woman and her children in the circumstances in which she finds herself. The thing I’m struggling with is the point of vilifying her and criticising her for her lifestyle choices. I just don’t see why it’s either necessary or what it achieves or what it is meant to achieve. Comparing the amount of financial aid she receives from the State with the amount earned by someone in employment who has no dependents? What’s that about? The two scenarios simply aren’t comparable.

You talk about personal responsibility being replaced with personal entitlement, but you’re criticising the woman in question in this particular case for taking responsibility for herself and her children to the point where she has now done what she did. She is taking personal responsibility for her actions, and claiming what she personally is entitled to claim for from the State. Anyone in her circumstances is entitled to claim exactly what she is claiming, and I don’t know exactly what she is claiming for, let alone where this figure of €50k is coming from, because I’m not privy to either what she is claiming for, or what she is entitled to.

If you truly believed in personal responsibility, it means taking responsibility for yourself, rather than concerning yourself with what anyone else is or isn’t entitled to or claiming from the State. You believe you’re entitled to question what other people are claiming from the State, but you’re not. That doesn’t appear to stop you though.

CeilingFly · 18-08-2018 10:17PM

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eviltwin · 18-08-2018 10:19PM

Melendez wrote: »

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Cry me a river. Like you say we all have the same pressures only most people cut their cloth to measure when money is tight. If her 1000 a week isn't enough maybe she could, oh I don't know....get a job perhaps?

Seth Brundle · 18-08-2018 10:21PM

Melendez wrote: »

Where do you get a grand a week to spend on food? The grand a week includes her rent supplement, she will be spending €500 a week on rent. Most of the rest will not go on food she would have utilities, clothing etc the same as everyone else.

Can you not see how utterly ridiculous your statement is?

How do normal people who work manage on less money even before tax?
How can they pay rent, creche, loan repayments, utility bills, etc even before buying food?
If Ms Cash can't do it on 1k in the hand each week then how does most of the country manage to do so on less?

Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

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