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  • #3992
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Uriel. wrote: »
    What's the answer to all this, and is this thread really reflective of a broader society view.

    From what I hear welfare rates are going to be increased further in the budget. What will it take to change the system and do we really have the appetite to do so?

    I hate to be negative but I think it's already a last cause and the growing shift further left, particularly in the media, it seems unlikely that there will ever be a public or political will to make tough choices and tackle this ****e.

    As long as we have band aid Dáil we'll never get anywhere as well. People in this country are terrified to give any party a majority. Leaving aside individual political parties, the reality always is that compromise is required because of coalition, or worse, minority governments.

    I find the whole thing, along with the justice system to be completely sickening to be honest.

    For me, I am going to be a protest voter. It's the only response available to register my disgust with the status quo.

    For the Presidential vote, I will vote against the incumbent solely as a protest against how contributors to our society are ill-treated and how non-contributors are rewarded.
    In the general election, I will do similarly i.e. vote against the incumbents. My hope is if I keep doing this, and others do likewise, then the politicians will finally get the message. There will be consequences along the way, but I'm willing to endure it in order to get the change we deserve.

    A lot of people are hoping for a political party to be formed that will represent the working/contributor class in Ireland. Unfortunately this party would have to battle the biased media in Ireland; particularly RTE.
    One would hope that an existing party would re-invent itself. Take the Labour Party as an example. If only they would a u-turn and focus on workers/contributors in this country; then they would see their seats in the Dail increase to impactful numbers. Their mandate would be to balance the scale, which is currently heavily weighed against the contributors in Irish society.


  • #3993
    22michael44
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭22michael44


    Uriel. wrote: »
    What's the answer to all this, and is this thread really reflective of a broader society view.

    From what I hear welfare rates are going to be increased further in the budget. What will it take to change the system and do we really have the appetite to do so?

    I hate to be negative but I think it's already a last cause and the growing shift further left, particularly in the media, it seems unlikely that there will ever be a public or political will to make tough choices and tackle this ****e.

    As long as we have band aid Dáil we'll never get anywhere as well. People in this country are terrified to give any party a majority. Leaving aside individual political parties, the reality always is that compromise is required because of coalition, or worse, minority governments.

    I find the whole thing, along with the justice system to be completely sickening to be honest.

    i mean if it keeps getting worse you always have the option of becoming an economic migrant i guess


  • #3994
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    22michael44 wrote: »
    i mean if it keeps getting worse you always have the option of becoming an economic migrant i guess

    Do you have anything of any note or substance to add or just cheap jibes ?

    Why on earth should a citizen of the country have to leave ???


  • #3995
    22michael44
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭22michael44


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Do you have anything of any note or substance to add or just cheap jibes ?

    Why on earth should a citizen of the country have to leave ???

    i think i gave up trying to contribute anything when one poster decided to cook up a conspiracy theory about me. all the same the post is as useful as most other ones here, if only to try to lend a bit of perspective.

    'substance' is presumably doing mocking traveller imitations.


  • #3996
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,163 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Do you have anything of any note or substance to add or just cheap jibes ?

    Why on earth should a citizen of the country have to leave ???
    No cash left to pay for cash?


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  • #3997
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    22michael44 wrote: »
    i think i gave up trying to contribute anything when one poster decided to cook up a conspiracy theory about me. all the same the post is as useful as most other ones here, if only to try to lend a bit of perspective.

    So, no then.

    Okay no worries.


  • #3998
    Turnipman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Turnipman


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Young wan on the LUAS earlier reading The S** and making comment to her boyfriend about how "evil people are" and how "when she is in charge everyone will have a house and an income and be safe and secure". (I think that'a the gist I was trying not to take any notice but the coverage slipped on the phone and the next choon hadn't started!).

    Were we all that dumb as teenagers ????

    Some teenagers never grew out of it.

    Our current President (in his own way, as parasitical as Cash) being one of them.


  • #3999
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    This sh1t makes me sick

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/mother-who-slept-in-dublin-garda-station-delighted-to-be-given-a-three-bedroom-apartment-862565.html


    They've turned cash into a fcuking celebrity.

    :mad:


  • #4000
    blackvalley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    Turnipman wrote: »
    Jim O'Callaghan TD; he's FF's justice spokesman. he occasionally puts in a few hours in the Dáil, normally when the TV cameras are on.

    He also tends to appear when any attempt to reform the judicial system needs to be voted down :mad:


  • #4001
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    22michael44 wrote: »
    i mean if it keeps getting worse you always have the option of becoming an economic migrant i guess

    Funny enough I know quite a few people who left Ireland because of the repressive regime of tax on workers and how that tax money was spent. In effect, they became economic migrants; much to the benefit of the countries that they immigrated to.

    High tax for good quality services would be worth it (in my opinion), but high tax to support an out-of-control welfare system is just a ticking time bomb that some people do not want to be around for.


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  • #4002
    dominatinMC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    22michael44 wrote: »
    i think i gave up trying to contribute anything when one poster decided to cook up a conspiracy theory about me. all the same the post is as useful as most other ones here, if only to try to lend a bit of perspective.

    'substance' is presumably doing mocking traveller imitations.


    Serious question, and I don't mean to come across as arrogant/condescending/etc., I'm just generally curious. I've been intermittently dropping in and out of this thread and, from what I've seen, you seem to be (one of the few?) defending Ms. Cash. I think I have that right? My question is, are you content with having a percentage of your earnings being redistributed to fund the lifestyle of Ms. Cash? Because it is that very issue which frustrates me. I guess it's based on fundamental principles and, perhaps, that's where you and I differ, but I would be genuinely interested to get your take on the question I posed.


  • #4003
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,064 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    Prisoner 6753 wrote: »
    This sh1t makes me sick

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/mother-who-slept-in-dublin-garda-station-delighted-to-be-given-a-three-bedroom-apartment-862565.html


    They've turned cash into a fcuking celebrity.

    :mad:

    Sickening..only 6 there. Is no.7 too embarrassed?


  • #4004
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    Now she's promoting children driving sulkies on the road. None of them look older than 7.

    Cute


  • #4005
    22michael44
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭22michael44


    dominatinMC wrote: »
    Serious question, and I don't mean to come across as arrogant/condescending/etc., I'm just generally curious. I've been intermittently dropping in and out of this thread and, from what I've seen, you seem to be (one of the few?) defending Ms. Cash. I think I have that right? My question is, are you content with having a percentage of your earnings being redistributed to fund the lifestyle of Ms. Cash? Because it is that very issue which frustrates me. I guess it's based on fundamental principles and, perhaps, that's where you and I differ, but I would be genuinely interested to get your take on the question I posed.

    nah i haven't defended her at any point that i can remember (if you can find a post i'm open to being wrong about this), but that does sum up the level of discourse in this thread - that because someone isn't throwing abuse at her, they're defending her.
    to answer your question, it doesn't keep me up at night, no. it's part and parcel of a welfare system.


  • #4006
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Prisoner 6753 wrote: »
    This sh1t makes me sick

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/mother-who-slept-in-dublin-garda-station-delighted-to-be-given-a-three-bedroom-apartment-862565.html


    They've turned cash into a fcuking celebrity.

    :mad:

    I actually felt like vomiting at that.


  • #4007
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,565 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I just read that that she’s been given a three bedroom apartment! That other ****ing burden on the taxpayer Miriam o’callaghan, arms around her and all! RTÉ is satire at this stage!


  • #4008
    mikemac2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    I’m sure there was someone else in line for that three bed apartment. Had the necessary points, was next on the list

    Sorry fella, you just got bumped :(


  • #4009
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    mikemac2 wrote: »
    I’m sure there was someone else in line for that three bed apartment. Had the necessary points, was next on the list

    Sorry fella, you just got bumped :(

    ... Yeah I know you'll have to get ready for work in the toilets at Busaras but you know, what can you do ? She had a better story.


  • #4010
    macwal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭macwal


    Odyssey 2005 wrote: »
    Sickening..only 6 there. Is no.7 too embarrassed?

    She's 26 now too in that article; I thought she was 28...?


  • #4011
    dominatinMC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    22michael44 wrote: »
    nah i haven't defended her at any point that i can remember (if you can find a post i'm open to being wrong about this), but that does sum up the level of discourse in this thread - that because someone isn't throwing abuse at her, they're defending her.
    to answer your question, it doesn't keep me up at night, no. it's part and parcel of a welfare system.
    Fair enough, there seems to be other posters directing some anger your way, which led me to believe you were defending her.

    It doesn't keep me up at night either, and I realise it is part and parcel of the welfare system, but I believe this to be flawed when you have so many (and I include Cash in this) who are abusing the system. I believe that the state (you and I, and other posters here) paying-out for 7 kids is too much. There has to be a line drawn somewhere.


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  • #4012
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    She said: "All I'm thinking about is getting a home and fixing my children and doing the best job I can as a mother and then I'll sort out myself."

    Utter utter ****.


  • #4013
    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    Uriel. wrote: »
    What's the answer to all this, and is this thread really reflective of a broader society view.

    From what I hear welfare rates are going to be increased further in the budget. What will it take to change the system and do we really have the appetite to do so?

    I hate to be negative but I think it's already a last cause and the growing shift further left, particularly in the media, it seems unlikely that there will ever be a public or political will to make tough choices and tackle this ****e.

    Seems that way alright: https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/report-gives-stark-warning-were-a-welfare-nation-862009.html

    "There are 1.3m people in receipt of a weekly social welfare payment in respect of two million beneficiaries. A further 625,300 families receive a monthly child benefit payment in respect of 1.2m children."

    If you're not in, you can't win! May as well jump on the bandwagon whilst it's still going. Where is the patriotism of the early generations, who made sacrifices to contribute to the building of the state. Now we're a bunch of entitled me féiners.


  • #4014
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,163 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Utter utter ****.
    Maybe that could have reduced some of the unnecessary children that we are all funding.


  • #4015
    Cina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭Cina


    This is truly astounding.

    I've worked tirelessly for ten years to afford a two bed apartment in Dublin which I'm now paying a big mortgage on. Friends of mine can't even afford to get a property despite being in full-time jobs. Other friends are being out-bid by vultures and the council themselves.

    This woman who has never worked a day in her life and yet gets more money than I do (after tax) every year elaborately plans to shove her six kids (at the age of 26, no less) into a Garda station for the night, videos it and then releases it all over the net just gets handed a fecking three bed apartment. Sure why not? Get RTé in on it too.

    It shows how utterly out of touch our media and politicians are with the general public of Ireland that they think it's a good thing to promote this woman as a success story and giving her this apartment as something we should all be happy for. Sickening really, maybe me and the missus should've just scrapped using contraception and popped out a few young'uns instead of working to get our apartment.


  • #4016
    Turnipman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Turnipman


    mikemac2 wrote: »
    I’m sure there was someone else in line for that three bed apartment. Had the necessary points, was next on the list

    Sorry fella, you just got bumped :(


    Government Information Notice

    If you're homeless, unemployed with lots of kids and have a partner or ex-partner in prison and are fed up waiting for a house then it is recommended that you go to your nearest Garda Station and demand that you be allowed to overnight there.

    Be certain to bring your smartphone with you and upload heart-rending photos of your unfortunate kids sleeping on the chairs to your Instagram and Facebook pages.

    I Eoghan Murphy, Minister for Housing personally guarantee that if you adopt this course of action, you will be housed within a week.

    This message has been endorsed by Focus Ireland.


  • #4017
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,565 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I couldn’t care less what way the apologists spin it. Our living standards are taking a significant hit with the welfare system that is in place! To pay for this ****!


  • #4018
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Maybe that could have reduced some of the unnecessary children that we are all funding.

    That's probably the main reason she 'only' has 7.

    Someone needs to lock up that woman's front door, it's far too dangerous when left open.

    The back door is a safer bet.


  • #4019
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    Prisoner 6753 wrote: »
    paying-out for 7 kids is too much. There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

    I'd say state shouldn't pay for the children (CB). They should pay directly to the childcare, not for the beer and communion dresses for most vulnerable.
    Free childcare instead of CB should make the difference.


  • #4020
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    na1 wrote: »
    I'd say state shouldn't pay for the children (CB). They should pay directly to the childcare, not for the beer and communion dresses for most vulnerable.
    Free childcare instead of CB should make the difference.
    You'd see pave point come out of the woodwork then.

    Is Martin Collins gone on the missing list or what lately?


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  • #4021
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    Turnipman wrote: »
    I Eoghan Murphy, Minister for Housing personally guarantee that if you adopt this course of action, you will be housed within a week.

    The "Garda Station Housing Queue" seems to be a most prioritized queue among other council housing queues.


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