Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

eviltwin wrote: »

She's living a very chaotic life with more children than she can manage and a scumbag partner. She's completely dependent on the goodwill of the state to keep her going. She's no ambition, no hope of ever being self sufficient. I might work a full time job for a lot less than she gets for doing nothing but I bet I sleep a lot easier at night. Would anyone want to swap with her? Would they fcuk.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Considering you want to extrapolate just how much you contribute to this particular pot and just how much is spent on the family in question in this particular case, I’ll put some figures on that to put it into perspective.

In 2016, the total income from Revenue was €69Billion. The total expenditure was €72Billion. Your income tax which is deducted at source from your salary, isn’t even worth talking about. The imaginary figure of €50k that it is claimed the family in this particular case are entitled to, isn’t worth talking about.

Since the woman in question in this particular case raised the question of how much is spent to house migrants in accommodation that would generally be considered unsuitable for animals, the answer in 2017 was €10Billion. That however is really neither here nor there as far as she, or you, or I is concerned because it’s money that the Government spends on all our behalf, for the common good of society, apparently.

Do I think you should be happy with the situation? I really don’t care one way or the other tbh. It’s really not that high on my list of priorities. Do I care that she or anyone else even in my own immediate family is laughing and sneering down their noses at me trying to make out that they’re having the life of Reilly at ‘my’ expense? I’ve said the same to them as I’ll say to you - I really couldn’t give a flying fcuk.

That’s not ‘enabling’ anyone or any of the rest of that nonsense. It’s simply that I don’t have time to be wasting validating their nonsense. They’re generally not interfering with how I choose to live my life, and I would take no joy in humiliating someone to the degree that would allow me to feel superior to them. I simply don’t view them as a credible threat to my way of life. That’s all it is.





There’s a reason why I used the word ‘entitled’, because they are legally entitled to claim for whatever they’re claiming for. Everyone is. What do you get out of making a martyr of yourself? You claim that all this tax is being taken from your salary and yet you’re also complaining because other people are claiming what they’re entitled to, and you’re expecting that they shouldn’t because you choose not to?

Kinda reminds me of someone I know who is self-employed, and during the recession their business was gone down the tubes and their financial affairs were a mess. They weren’t going to sign on, nope, they weren’t going to be ‘one of those people’, they weren’t going on no dole queues. They, were an idiot. They were absolutely entitled to claim benefits, but they preferred to play the martyr and the poor mouth. They were an absolute pain in the hole. It’s exactly that sort of shìte and that attitude is reprehensible to me. Their head buried so far up their own ass that they can’t bear to face reality, but they think people think they’re great because they’re not “a burden on the taxpayer” :rolleyes:





Ehh, I acknowledge and understand basic economic facts alright. I just don’t agree with your perspective. There’s a difference. I’m not claiming that this woman in this particular case is “getting the equivalent into her hand of someone earning €80k gross”. That’s just pure and simple nonsense. There’s nothing economically factual about it. There’s nothing factual about it whatsoever, only that it’s being economical with the facts. That’s the kind of nonsense you ought to be pointing out as an example of someone who has a poor grasp of economics or believes in myths.

I never said I see absolutely nothing wrong with what this woman is doing, but that’s a question of morality, not economics or anything to which she is legally entitled to from the State. If you don’t like that, or if you’re not happy with that, then argue against bad policy, because arguing against individuals will take more time and resources than you will ever have available to you. It’s a waste of time and resources when it’s not just the woman in this particular case you will have to contend with, but the many, many thousands more whom you will have to vet to determine whether they are worthy of ‘your’ taxes being spent them.

Good luck with that, genuinely, because you’ll have your work cut out for you if you choose to go down that road.