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Gatling · 14-08-2018 07:24PM

Seems she's thinking of occupying a county council house now ,till they give her her own house

vectorvictor · 14-08-2018 07:24PM

forgodssake wrote: »

There is a solution . Get off your hole and go to work . Don't have 7 kids if you can't afford them . It's what I've done . It's quite simple really . If welfare weren't dishing money out so easily these people wouldn't be breeding like rabbits because they would be like me .. paying my own way in life .

And that was your choice. Why so much anger towards people who have more than you without having to "get off their hole"?

Is it because they are really cleverer and you have to sit through 40+ hours of work to achieve what they get for a mere stroll to the post office.

I am playing devil's advocate here. I have worked 90% of my life and will continue to do so despite "easier" options but I honestly cannot blame people for using the system. It's a lotto win when you break it down.

PlaneSpeeking · 14-08-2018 07:25PM

vectorvictor wrote: »

forgodssake wrote: »

There is a solution . Get off your hole and go to work . Don't have 7 kids if you can't afford them . It's what I've done . It's quite simple really . If welfare weren't dishing money out so easily these people wouldn't be breeding like rabbits because they would be like me .. paying my own way in life .

And that was your choice. Why so much anger towards people who have more than you without having to "get off their hole"?

Is it because they are really cleverer and you have to sit through 40+ hours of work to achieve what they get for a mere stroll to the post office.

I am playing devil's advocate here. I have worked 90% of my life and will continue to do so despite "easier" options but I honestly cannot blame people for using the system. It's a lotto win when you break it down.

Enabling bollocks.

Alrigghtythen · 14-08-2018 07:26PM

Gatling wrote: »

Seems she's thinking of occupying a county council house now ,till they give her her own house

Her friend informed her she'll be removed from the housing list if she did that. Another friend suggested she gets a charity to occupy it for her and they get her in to it that way.

TAPlank · 14-08-2018 07:28PM

Here's a thought that'll be sure to annoy the do-gooders and freeloaders in our society.

Pay the full childrens allowance for the first two children, then reduce it by half for the third, with nothing for subsequent children. If the family is unable to provide for these additional children, they should be taken into care or fostered. They would then be more likely to be better looked after, get a better education and a better start in life. This would be an additional cost to the state, but these people should be more productive.

Would this reduce fami9ly sizes or the number of homeless children? I don't really know, but I'm sure there are well informed people who have opinions on this.

Enjoy the good weather, it won't last!.

Melendez · 14-08-2018 07:29PM

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vectorvictor · 14-08-2018 07:30PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Enabling bollocks.

No viable argument so reduce it to crude language. That'll fix it all

freshpopcorn · 14-08-2018 07:30PM

Gatling wrote: »

The cash one is now complaining that the council told her she could be waiting 13 years to be housed in a 4 bed house .

Another 5 or 6 years for her then

I hope she finds a hobby other that having children for everbodies sake in the meantime.

um7y1h83ge06nx · 14-08-2018 07:31PM

Melendez wrote: »

You seem like the sort of person who would drill a spy hole into the next door neighbours toilet.

Not as if the poster carried out Russian levels of hacking, I presume this is all in the public domain so it's fair game.

Cash can't expect to exploit media for gain and not have her life examined, it's not a one way street.

Alrigghtythen · 14-08-2018 07:32PM

Melendez wrote: »

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It's all publicly available

123balltv · 14-08-2018 07:32PM

If I win the euromillions tonight it would make my day to buy them a house
there's a house for sale beside my ex Mother in law

aul bag it's close to Tallaght.

PlaneSpeeking · 14-08-2018 07:32PM

vectorvictor wrote: »

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Enabling bollocks.

No viable argument so reduce it to crude language. That'll fix it all

If you read the thread you will see viable options.

You're like many just choosing to ignore these and make excuses for her two fingers to society and those who pay for her lifestyle.

Gatling · 14-08-2018 07:33PM

123balltv wrote: »

If I win the euromillions tonight it would make my day to buy them a house
there's a house for sale beside my ex Mother in law aul bag it's close to Tallaght.

She would turn it down ,she might claim a fair share of your winnings too

eviltwin · 14-08-2018 07:34PM

I guarantee all the bleeding hearts who want her housed dont want her housed anywhere near them.

Melendez · 14-08-2018 07:35PM

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Gatling · 14-08-2018 07:35PM

eviltwin wrote: »

I guarantee all the bleeding hearts who want her housed dont want her housed anywhere near them.

Have you noticed none on here offered a room or a house .

Roger Hassenforder · 14-08-2018 07:36PM

Melendez wrote: »

You seem like the sort of person who would drill a spy hole into the next door neighbours toilet.

That wouldn't be very clever
You'd get an eyeful of 5hite

pjohnson · 14-08-2018 07:38PM

eviltwin wrote: »

I guarantee all the bleeding hearts who want her housed dont want her housed anywhere near them.

I wouldn't want me worst enemy near me stuck in a village the arsé end of civilization getting hammered by the feckin atlantic :pac:

forgodssake · 14-08-2018 07:38PM

vectorvictor wrote:

And that was your choice. Why so much anger towards people who have more than you without having to "get off their hole"?

Ya your right I should be delighted . Thanks for clearing that up for me I'm so silly .

um7y1h83ge06nx · 14-08-2018 07:40PM

Melendez wrote: »

She is not exploiting the media, she might think she is, but she isn't. The media are exploiting her. Slowly turning on her. This is not her game. She doesn't know what she is at. Canon fodder.

Poor woman. I'll be up all night now worrying about her.

PlaneSpeeking · 14-08-2018 07:40PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Melendez wrote: »

You seem like the sort of person who would drill a spy hole into the next door neighbours toilet.

That wouldn't be very clever
You'd get an eyeful of 5hite

And the difference between that and her enablers would be...???? ðŸ˜

SEPT 23 1989 · 14-08-2018 07:41PM

eviltwin wrote: »

I guarantee all the bleeding hearts who want her housed dont want her housed anywhere near them.

So easy to pontificate when the problem is never near your door

Looking forward to seeing the ten bay halting site being built on part of the land RTE sold off in Montrose

vectorvictor · 14-08-2018 07:41PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

If you read the thread you will see viable options.

You're like many just choosing to ignore these and make excuses for her two fingers to society and those who pay for her lifestyle.

I have. They are not real world.

I'm stating facts (that I already stated much earlier in the thread that I don't necessarily agree with) I.e. She is using the legislation we have set down. Directing anger at this individual is wrong. Blame the legislators. Absolutely anybody can have their house paid for and decent living money care of the tax payer for doing nothing if they use the system / legislation.

Right? Nope and not the basis for a growing and responsible economy.

Clever to do so? Of course it is.

It's a matter of ambition over reward. Our social welfare system is a complete giveaway. I do believe it should be changed (people on "job seekers" for 20 years is an example)

To be clear I think that what people in this situation get for nothing is wrong but I do not blame them for taking what's in the pot.

It's up to people who want it changed to canvas for it through the right channels not to direct their anger at the "smart cookies"

forgodssake · 14-08-2018 07:41PM

Melendez wrote:

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And you seem like the sort of person that deserves the Cash's as neighbours .

pjohnson · 14-08-2018 07:42PM

vectorvictor wrote: »

So what to do with them? She can't or won't provide for her family without social support. That's the end of. She isn't about to find herself a 50k career in IT nor does she want to. She is where she is and rightly or wrongly that's the states problem to sort out given there are kids involved.

Put the kids into care and leave mother to fend for herself?

Leave the kids with mother and withdraw social support leaving the kids vulnerable?

Gas them all?

So many judgemental posts and not one viable solution among them.

There would be absolute bloodshed here to become the person with the honour of flicking that switch!

Melendez · 14-08-2018 07:47PM

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forgodssake · 14-08-2018 07:48PM

Melendez wrote:

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What happened to poor Margaret she deserves a house ? Why don't you want her next door to you ?

Melendez · 14-08-2018 07:49PM

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forgodssake · 14-08-2018 07:50PM

Melendez wrote:

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So you don't want her next door to you but your quite happy to have some other poor family lumbered with them . Interesting .

For Forks Sake · 14-08-2018 07:50PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

They don't but Solidarity are pushing that agenda

D defeats Bill that would make housing a constitutional right
Dun Laoghaire TD Richard Boyd Barrett has called the government “shameful” for not supporting the Bill.

THE DÁIL HAS voted to defeat a Solidarity-PBP Bill which aims to make housing a constitutional right.
Uniting with Fianna F, the government defeated the Right to Housing Bill by 73 votes to 37. Instead, the Bill is to be sent to the Oireachtas Finance Committee for consideration.

Dun Laoghaire TD Richard Boyd Barrett has called the government “shameful” for not supporting the Bill, stating that the Constitutional Convention recommended that the right to housing be included in the Constitution a number of years ago.

http://www.thejournal.ie/right-to-housing-bill-3609627-Sep2017/

Here's the list of TD's who voted in favour of that claptrap, make sue to remind them the next time they knock at your (earned) door looking for votes.

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/2017-09-21/6/

Sinn F
Adams, Gerry. Louth.
Brady, John. Wicklow.
Buckley, Pat. Cork East.
Crowe, Se Dublin South West
Cullinane, David. Waterford.
Doherty, Pearse. Donegal.
Ellis, Dessie. Dublin North West
McDonald, Mary Lou. Dublin Central
Mitchell, Denise. Dublin Bay North
Munster, Imelda. Louth
Broin, Eoin. Dublin Mid West
Caol, Caoimhgh Cavan-Monaghan
Laoghaire, Donnchadh. Cork South Central
O'Reilly, Louise. Dublin Fingal
Quinlivan, Maurice. Limerick City
Stanley, Brian. Laois

AAA/PBP
Barry, Mick. Cork North Central
Boyd Barrett, Richard. Dun Laoghaire
Collins, Joan. Dublin South Central
Coppinger, Ruth. Dublin North West
Murphy, Paul. Dublin South West

Social Democrats
Murphy, Catherine. Kildare North
Shortall, Rn. Dublin North West

Independents 4 Change
Broughan, Thomas P. Dublin Bay North
Daly, Clare. IND4C. Dublin Fingal
Smith, Br Dublin South Central
Wallace, Mick. Wexford

Independent
Collins, Michael. Cork South-West
Healy, Seamus. Tipperary
McGrath, Mattie. Tipperary
O'Sullivan, Maureen. Dublin Central

Green Party
Ryan, Eamon. Dublin Bay South
Martin, Catherine. Dublin Rathdown

Labour Party
O'Sullivan, Jan. Limerick City
Penrose, Willie. Longford-Westmeath
Ryan, Brendan. Dublin Fingal

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