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Those in jail should be forced to go litter picking.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,043 ✭✭✭Berserker


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Slave labor?
    These people owe a debt to society. They can reduce their sentence by actively partaking in this and repaying their debt to society. Not so sure about the leg cuffs idea but electronic tagging could be used.

    What's wrong with the leg cuffs? If they don't like it then they can just stop breaking the law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭tommyboy26


    this should be given to people on job seekers. i believe its what they do in Australia.

    it shouldnt just stop with picking up litter. they should be made to do jobs around the community.

    there would be a small increase in the cost due to insurance, supervision etc.

    but there would also be a decrease in the amount of people who just use the social to sponge off and the community would get the benefit from it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    tommyboy26 wrote: »
    this should be given to people on job seekers. i believe its what they do in Australia.

    it shouldnt just stop with picking up litter. they should be made to do jobs around the community.

    Most people on job seekers are not permitted to even do charity work. How would you go about changing the departments stance on that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭tommyboy26


    tuxy wrote: »
    Most people on job seekers are not permitted to even do charity work. How would you go about changing the departments stance on that?

    it was just an idea i have no idea how it would be implemented


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    tommyboy26 wrote: »
    it was just an idea i have no idea how it would be implemented

    I don't know if it could.
    I did a fetac course years ago where about 75% of the people were only there because their payment would be cut if they didn't agree. They would always be on time for roll call then switch off as soon as the lecture started.
    People would take the same attitude with any community work scheme.
    You can't force them to work.
    Even with the prisoners, what do you do if they deliberately work slow.
    I've seen them in court laughing as the judge hands out a sentence, they don't care about jail time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Conor84


    I can't think of the official tittle but the guy who's in charge of the people doing community service occasional brings a little bus load of lads doing this near me.
    Locals generally don't like the guys being in the area tough.

    I had to do community service and it was like that. I actually didnt mind doing th work but got some strange reactions alright. We had to do clean ups and also painting and weeding. Different things on different days.

    Some of the lads took it seriously but some just took the piss. Depended on the supervisor too. Some worked us harder than others (but not too hard) wgilw some didnt mind if you just sat around smoking.

    Dont know about getting prisoners to do it with talk of guards, armed soldiers and legcuffs. Sounds like too much troule. They could do more of it with people on community service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Leg cuffs.
    Elf n Safety wouldn't have that...expecting anyone to work with those on. One trip and you'll have a compo case on your hands.
    This isn't the Deep South circa 1933.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Leg cuffs.
    Elf n Safety wouldn't have that...expecting anyone to work with those on. One trip and you'll have a compo case on your hands.
    This isn't the Deep South circa 1933.

    Aww , no leg cuffs , could we hamstring them ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,523 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Berserker wrote: »
    What's wrong with the leg cuffs? If they don't like it then they can just stop breaking the law.

    Possibly a bit harsh, might contravene eu and global human rights laws etc.


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