Tommy Robinson jailed

malinheader · 13-08-2018 11:33AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Do you not think the reason the garage owner had a problem is there is a history of people getting petrol and then riding off without paying? Is there a history of women in burkas doing drive-offs?

I don't know. Can you answer that.your good if you can.

ohnonotgmail · 13-08-2018 11:35AM

malinheader wrote: »

I don't know. Can you answer that.your good if you can.

Quite easy to answer and i suspect you already know the answer but i will humour you just this once:

Do you not think the reason the garage owner had a problem is there is a history of people getting petrol and then riding off without paying?

That is most definitely the reason.

Is there a history of women in burkas doing drive-offs?

No there isn't

13-08-2018 11:37AM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Just show me that law that oppresses you from wearing your balaclava while you walk around town.

Never mind masks or balaclavas. Try walking into a shopping centre with your hood up (not a face covering) and see how far you get without being apprehended.

98q76e12hrflnk · 13-08-2018 11:39AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Quite easy to answer and i suspect you already know the answer but i will humour you just this once:

That is most definitely the reason.

No there isn't

silly

ohnonotgmail · 13-08-2018 11:40AM

Violet Plain Pennon wrote: »

silly

You're right, your original post before you changed it was very silly.

Captain Obvious · 13-08-2018 11:47AM

malinheader wrote: »

Going round in circles here. Do I think it was racist that a man in a motor cycle helmet could not fill petrol but someone in a Burka can. No stupid yes and maybe the owner thought he would be classed as a racist if he did or maybe he is Islamic faith. Do I want to see Burkas on the streets of Ireland. Definitely not. Now what's your view

No, I'm in the same place I was when I responded to Stephen15's complaint that a white man can't walk around in a ski mask but a muslim woman can walk around with their face covered without issue. The petrol station example seems pretty irrelevant. Both persons seem to have been wearing open face items of clothing.

I don't particularly care if someone wants to wear a burqa. There are pretty much no good arguments to ban them. I think it would be pretty reasonable to require it be removed for ID photos or if demanded by a member of law enforcement checking your ID but a full ban doesn't seem justifiable at all.

Captain Obvious · 13-08-2018 11:52AM

Omackeral wrote: »

Never mind masks or balaclavas. Try walking into a shopping centre with your hood up (not a face covering) and see how far you get without being apprehended.

I suggest if that happens to you then you get yourself a good solicitor and sue for false imprisonment. You'd have a slam dunk case.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 11:55AM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

No, I'm in the same place I was when I responded to Stephen15's complaint that a white man can't walk around in a ski mask but a muslim woman can walk around with their face covered without issue. The petrol station example seems pretty irrelevant. Both persons seem to have been wearing open face items of clothing.

I don't particularly care if someone wants to wear a burqa. There are pretty much no good arguments to ban them. I think it would be pretty reasonable to require it be removed for ID photos or if demanded by a member of law enforcement checking your ID but a full ban doesn't seem justifiable at all.

Once again you're the first one to mention "white" men. Almost like you have an agenda.

ohnonotgmail · 13-08-2018 11:59AM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Once again you're the first one to mention "white" men. Almost like you have an agenda.

it was somebody from your side who first mentioned white men. Do keep up.

Stephen15 wrote: »

So women have a right to hide their face but men don't? I think I should be allowed walk around wearing a balaclava or ski mask, if Muslim women do it then white men should also be allowed do it.

Complete nonsense. We don't generally conceal our faces here in the west whether you're a man or a woman.

Captain Obvious · 13-08-2018 12:01PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Once again you're the first one to mention "white" men. Almost like you have an agenda.

I thought you had me on ignore. But here you go.

Stephen15 wrote: »

So women have a right to hide their face but men don't? I think I should be allowed walk around wearing a balaclava or ski mask, if Muslim women do it then white men should also be allowed do it.

Cabaal · 13-08-2018 12:05PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Try walking into a shopping centre with your hood up (not a face covering) and see how far you get without being apprehended.

I've walked into shopping centres with a hoody hood up and rain jacket hood up. Never ever been stopped, approached or even looked at.

If this is happening to you then perhaps did you have a run in with security before?

malinheader · 13-08-2018 12:24PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Quite easy to answer and i suspect you already know the answer but i will humour you just this once:

That is most definitely the reason.

No there isn't

No need to humour me. I get where your coming from. Motor cyclist in helmet probably a criminal if wearing a Burka your grand or are you just feared of being called racist.

ohnonotgmail · 13-08-2018 12:26PM

malinheader wrote: »

No need to humour me. I get where your coming from. Motor cyclist in helmet probably a criminal if wearing a Burka your grand or are you just feared of being called racist.

good job on completely missing the point. I expected nothing less.

DickSwiveller Returns · 13-08-2018 12:28PM

Cabaal wrote: »

I've walked into shopping centres with a hoody hood up and rain jacket hood up. Never ever been stopped, approached or even looked at.

If this is happening to you then perhaps did you have a run in with security before?

In general you're not allowed to have your hood up in a shopping centre.

ohnonotgmail · 13-08-2018 12:29PM

DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »

In general you're not allowed to have your hood up in a shopping centre.

Never? It has never been a problem for me.

terryduff12 · 13-08-2018 12:32PM

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/world/707468/ISIS-burka-ban-Islamic-State-full-face-veils-security-risk/amp

Glad some people see sense

DickSwiveller Returns · 13-08-2018 12:32PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Never? It has never been a problem for me.

I've had my hood up a few times going in to Liffey Valley Shopping centre and was told to pull it down.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 12:33PM

At Manchester T3 security, I've seen an African lady being told to remove an elaborate headscarf to check there was nothing under it and yet Muslim women in burkas and other garb are allowed to walk through.

Good on her, she complained loudly and vehemently! Could still hear her in the bar but I agree with her - one law for all, or there is inherent unfairness!

ohnonotgmail · 13-08-2018 12:34PM

DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »

I've had my hood up a few times going in to Liffey Valley Shopping centre and was told to pull it down.

Must be just you.

ohnonotgmail · 13-08-2018 12:35PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I've seen an African lady being told to remove an elaborate headscarf to check there was nothing under it and yet Muslim women in burkas and other garb are allowed to walk through.

Good on her, she complained loudly and vehemently! Could still hear her in the bar but I agree with her - one law for all, or there is inherent unfairness!

I cant imagine you get a lot of women in burkas going in to bars.

Taytoland · 13-08-2018 12:36PM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Taytoland wrote: »

He is a true patriot giving his body and soul for the cause. Well done to Stephen Lennon. I have no doubt whatsoever he will be dead in the next few years and the thousands and thousands at his funeral will be a sight to behold.

What cause?

The fight against Islamism which is across Europe and spreading.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 12:37PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I cant imagine you get a lot of women in burkas going in to bars.

It was am airport security line. No idea what happened with the text there.

Edited now.

terryduff12 · 13-08-2018 12:39PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Never? It has never been a problem for me.

They probably see you coming in and say theirs the leftie sjw from boards.ie stay well clear 😁

malinheader · 13-08-2018 12:43PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

good job on completely missing the point. I expected nothing less.

Always have bother with the points you crowd try and make.

13-08-2018 12:45PM

Cabaal wrote: »

I've walked into shopping centres with a hoody hood up and rain jacket hood up. Never ever been stopped, approached or even looked at.

Yes and did you leave it up for the duration of your stay in said shopping centres? Clearly not talking about just walking in out of the rain but you already know that.

Plenty of shopping centres (I was Liffey Valley last week and saw it) have signs specifically saying "No Hoods or Helmets". Hoods don't cover the face though.

As for your question of whether I've had run ins with security before, no I haven't. I lock criminals up for a living as it happens.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 12:47PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Yes and did you leave it up for the duration of your stay in said shopping centres? Clearly not talking about just walking in out of the rain but you already know that.

Plenty of shopping centres (I was Liffey Valley last week and saw it) have signs specifically saying "No Hoods or Helmets". Hoods don't cover the face though.

As for your question of whether I've had run ins with security before, no I haven't. I lock criminals up for a living as it happens.

Genuine question - if there is a Muslim woman in prison, she's not allowed to wear the full dalek winter storage outfit is she ?

Definite security risk for certain.

13-08-2018 12:48PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Must be just you.

No, it's on a sign as you enter the shopping centre. It's for everyone. Even you.

13-08-2018 12:50PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Genuine question - if there is a Muslim woman in prison, she's not allowed to wear the full dalek winter storage outfit is she ?

Definite security risk for certain.

I don't work in a female prison ordinarily but have been stationed in one a few times and I've never seen female prisoners with religious head gear.

ohnonotgmail · 13-08-2018 12:51PM

malinheader wrote: »

Always have bother with the points you crowd try and make.

Comprehension issues?

AfterLife · 13-08-2018 12:51PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I cant imagine you get a lot of women in burkas going in to bars.

There is no chance the poster didn't make that story up. She has racially charged stories to back up every point she's trying to make.

Tommy Robinson jailed

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