Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

dominatinMC · 13-08-2018 12:16PM

Turnipman wrote: »

If you're a journo, it's far easier to follow the herd than to think for oneself.

Furthermore, since the Sunday Times shafted Kevin Myers about 12 months ago, there isn't a journalist left in Ireland with the integrity to ask hard questions.

Agree completely. I'd argue that this whole saga has raised more questions about the media in this country than the actual housing crisis. The media coverage, apart from Niall Boylans show on Friday (the podcast of which I'd recommend to everyone here), was pathetic. Evey outlet presented this story from the same perspective, whole-heatedly agreeing with "poor" Margaret Cash, not one of them willing to ask the questions we want answered. Why are the media so keen to placate the lefties?? They are so insistent to use this story as a stick with which to beat the government, that they have lost sight of the underlying issues. Frustrating to say the least.

22michael44 · 13-08-2018 12:16PM

jmayo wrote: »

To me this is what welfare is meant for,
those that hit rough times and are planning to work again.

Best of luck to you.

So how can you defend someone that never ever bothered to contribute and is destined to just leech as much as possible out of the system till her dying day ?

BTW I was made redundant once as company went bust few weeks before Christmas so do know what it is like.

ah give it a rest, i haven't defended the woman anywhere, learn to read.

13-08-2018 12:19PM

I have copied and pasted this from the TV Licence website (http://www.anpost.ie/AnPost/MainContent/Personal+Customers/More+from+An+Post/TV+Licence/Free+Licence+Information.htm)
Who do I contact regarding my entitlement to a free TV Licence?
The word 'entitlement' is published on a Government website, no wonder this is the first word out of the mouth of this woman and her ilk. And it's another benefit to add to the spreadsheet calculating how much she receives from the taxpayers every year.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 12:20PM

http://www.thejournal.ie/margaret-cash-emergency-accommodation-4177994-Aug2018/

So many out and out lies in this story - does no one fact check ??

13-08-2018 12:21PM

Turnipman wrote: »

Blazer wrote: »

I’ve hammered RTE, the independent and the journal online. Have got a ton of likes for my comments but it’s like banging my head against the wall. The media are on a roll to blame it all on the government and to hell with the backstory.

If you're a journo, it's far easier to follow the herd than to think for oneself.

Furthermore, since the Sunday Times shafted Kevin Myers about 12 months ago, there isn't a journalist left in Ireland with the integrity to ask hard questions.

Why would a journalist ask any hard questions after the grief that George Hook received last year?

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 12:23PM

downtheroad wrote: »

Why would a journalist ask any hard questions after the grief that George Hook received last year?

I miss having opinions, they were fun.

Now there's just "the narrative" and woebetide you go against that!

KrustyUCC · 13-08-2018 12:32PM

Ms Cash has certainly been doing enough interviews with the papers

Mum and six kids forced to sleep in garda station given beds by a charity

https://www.herald.ie/news/mum-and-six-kids-forced-to-sleep-in-garda-station-given-beds-by-a-charity-37209313.html

Love the way people who question where the father is should be known as internet trolls according to the herald

"Many internet trolls demanded information about the children's father, but according to Ms Cash: "He's not relevant."

Speaking to the Sunday World, she said: "He's not on the scene. I separated from him last year."

The 28-year-old's former long-term partner, John McCarthy, was remanded in the custody of Cloverhill Prison on July 25.

He is facing charges of assault at Westmoreland Street on June 24, engaging in threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour and possession of an offensive weapon, involving a sharpened tent spike."

Melendez · 13-08-2018 12:32PM

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Wheeliebin30 · 13-08-2018 12:34PM

What annoys me more is the constant narrative the government and Leo don’t care about the most vulnerable blah blah.

Someone getting 1,000 a week cash for doing nothing, is certainly not a sign the government don’t care.

Is there any other country in the world where you would get that???????

Turnipman · 13-08-2018 12:35PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I miss having opinions, they were fun.

Now there's just "the narrative" and woebetide you go against that!

I noticed the lead headline in the Irish Sunday Mail yesterday appeared to be attacking the Minister for Housing for not cancelling his annual holiday and coming back to his desk to tackle the Homeless Cash family crisis!

It was only then that I realised that the parents of feeble minded children have evidently been pushing them into a career in journalism for the past number of years.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 12:35PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Ms Cash has certainly been doing enough interviews with the papers

Mum and six kids forced to sleep in garda station given beds by a charity

https://www.herald.ie/news/mum-and-six-kids-forced-to-sleep-in-garda-station-given-beds-by-a-charity-37209313.html

Love the way people who question where the father is should be known as internet trolls according to the herald

"Many internet trolls demanded information about the children's father, but according to Ms Cash: "He's not relevant."

Speaking to the Sunday World, she said: "He's not on the scene. I separated from him last year."

The 28-year-old's former long-term partner, John McCarthy, was remanded in the custody of Cloverhill Prison on July 25.

He is facing charges of assault at Westmoreland Street on June 24, engaging in threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour and possession of an offensive weapon, involving a sharpened tent spike."

Sharpened tent spike ? Lovely chap.

Minderbinder · 13-08-2018 12:38PM

I think folks on here are overwhelmingly angry at this woman and the media. If only they would take some kind of action. I’m particularly interested in the idea of the 2 child limit to child allowance which I think would have huge benefits for the country. It’s surely only a matter of time before the working class have had enough of leaches and these kind of women playing the victim.

For Forks Sake · 13-08-2018 12:39PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

So many out and out lies in this story - does no one fact check ??

It's the f*cking journal, they just swipe other sites content.

KrustyUCC · 13-08-2018 12:39PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Sharpened tent spike ? Lovely chap.

Lovely chap indeed

Seems a strange choice of weapon alright

Turnipman · 13-08-2018 12:40PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

"Many internet trolls demanded information about the children's father, but according to Ms Cash: "He's not relevant."

Speaking to the Sunday World, she said: "He's not on the scene. I separated from him last year."

Thus making her eligible for OPFP [€198 a week] rather than being the QA on her partner's Jobseekers Allowance payment [€131.40 per week] - so she's over €67 a week better off!

And she can still meet him for the occasional bout of casual sex if she's so inclined.

Trigger Happy · 13-08-2018 12:41PM

Minderbinder wrote: »

I think folks on here are overwhelmingly angry at this woman and the media. If only they would take some kind of action. I’m particularly interested in the idea of the 2 child limit to child allowance which I think would have huge benefits for the country. It’s surely only a matter of time before the working class have had enough of leaches and these kind of women playing the victim.

Someone earlier in this thread mentioned that we need a new political party, one that represents those that pay tax and their interests.
Can’t remember who posted it but they get my vote.

Kivaro · 13-08-2018 12:42PM

john4321 wrote: »

I contacted all of my local representatives one from FG, FF, SF and SD to ask their party stance on this and have not received a reply from any of them.

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I have two FGs one of whom is a government minister so not expecting much, the SF one is neither use nor ornament and one of the FFs is Barry Cowan.

Not really worth writing but you got to try.

Blazer wrote: »

I’ve hammered RTE, the independent and the journal online. Have got a ton of likes for my comments but it’s like banging my head against the wall. The media are on a roll to blame it all on the government and to hell with the backstory.

I contacted the FF TD Darragh O'Brien (darragh.obrien@oireachtas.ie) who wanted to set up a Child Homelessness Task Force as a result of this scam artist's antics in the Garda station last week. I called him out on his stupidity of being conned by this tax-funded waster. And I also contacted the main FF party to let them know of my disgust of their party's stance.

As an aside; everyone seems to be quoting the €54K number that the woman receives in tax-free cash. We really should be quoting our expenditure on her and her lifestyle back 10 or 11 years i.e. when she first started receiving our hard-earned money. It is in the six figure mark, but how many hundreds of thousands has she received from the government is the question. It should be made public.

Sorry for the mulit-quotes lads and lassies, but with the ease of contact via social media/contact forms/emails etc., those of us who disagree with how we are forced to support the lifestyles of those who will not work and those who abuse the social welfare system, we should all be contacting our local representatives (of every party) to express our displeasure and demand a change to the system. They need to know that if changes are not made, then we will not vote for them in the upcoming election.
I can assure you that even if they do not respond to our messages, it will have an impact on them if they receive a high number of communications.

One eyed Jack · 13-08-2018 12:42PM

downtheroad wrote: »

I have copied and pasted this from the TV Licence website (http://www.anpost.ie/AnPost/MainContent/Personal+Customers/More+from+An+Post/TV+Licence/Free+Licence+Information.htm)
Who do I contact regarding my entitlement to a free TV Licence?
The word 'entitlement' is published on a Government website, no wonder this is the first word out of the mouth of this woman and her ilk. And it's another benefit to add to the spreadsheet calculating how much she receives from the taxpayers every year.

Keep going, you’ll hit €100k eventually :pac:

Meanwhile, there’s this -

Household Benefits Package

Allowance 2: Free Television Licence

Once you qualify for the Household Benefits Package, you become eligible for a Free Television Licence from the next renewal date of your television licence. You must select the Television Licence option on the form when you apply for the Household Benefits package.

When you qualify for the Household Benefits Package and have been awarded a Free Television Licence, the Department issues you with a TV licence, and also notifies An Post of your entitlement to a free licence for as long as you are entitled to the Household Benefits Package.

Turnipman · 13-08-2018 12:46PM

Minderbinder wrote: »

I think folks on here are overwhelmingly angry at this woman and the media. If only they would take some kind of action. I’m particularly interested in the idea of the 2 child limit to child allowance which I think would have huge benefits for the country. It’s surely only a matter of time before the working class have had enough of leaches and these kind of women playing the victim.

Unfortunately it's probably unconstitutional, as all citizens in Ireland must be equal before the law. (meaning that the State cannot unjustly, unreasonably or arbitrarily discriminate between citizens.)

Kivaro · 13-08-2018 12:47PM

When you qualify for the Household Benefits Package and have been awarded a Free Television Licence, the Department issues you with a TV licence, and also notifies An Post of your entitlement to a free licence for as long as you are entitled to the Household Benefits Package.

You'd swear that the government is subliminally trying to implant a certain word into the minds of the entitled.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 12:48PM

Kivaro wrote: »

You'd swear that the government is subliminally trying to implant a certain word into the minds of the entitled.

Hugely amusing when you hear "but I'm owed". Sure dear, by whom ????

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 12:49PM

blackwhite wrote: »

Fingers in the ears going “la, la, la” wouldn’t be much different to what you are posting at this stage.

The car was pursued because they were “acting suspiciously” i.e. double speak for looking like scouting out houses to rob. Her companions all abandoned the car and fled.

Yet we get useful idiots trying to pretend that she was just a passenger with some friends out for a spin, and was unlucky that some stolen goods miraculously appeared in the car :rolleyes:

People aren’t as gullible as you and your ilk seem to wish them to be.

Below is the entire story. Maybe now you will stop taking snippets from it & twisting them to suit your narrative. Below are the facts. The group were possibly staking out more homes ( I don't know this for sure) but Cash was that drunk she not only couldn't make an escape but had to be taken to hospital she was that ill. I'd imagine this is why the Garda was certain enough to say under oath that "that he was happy that the defendant, whose only previous convictions were road traffic matters, had taken no part in the burglary and that she played a minor part in the whole incident."

minor
ˈmʌɪnə/
adjective
adjective: minor
1.
lesser in importance, seriousness, or significance.

These are the facts. The whole story for everyone to see.
Only one criminal conviction Unless someone can find a link to another one.

I wont be replying to anymore of your comments on this subject. I've had enough lies & twisting of facts. Your comments & replies have just become childish & aren't adding (factual) to the thread

Stolenitems

Enniscorthy Guardian

12 Dec 2017

A woman who was found in a drunken state in a car full of property that had been stolen during the course of a burglary in Enniscorthy appeared before the court last week charged with handling stolen goods.
Margaret Cash (27) of 22 Sundale Villas, Tallaght, Dublin, was present in court and pleaded guilty to the charge, dating from October 5, 2013.
Detective Garda Martin Brauders told the court that on the night in question, gardaí received a call about a car acting suspiciously in the Drumgoold area.
The vehicle was eventually located and a chase ensued. The car pulled in at Kilconnib, Monageer, and some of the occupants fled the scene, leaving the defendant and another lady behind. Garda Brauders said that the defendant was in an intoxicated state when arrested and had to be taken to hospital as she was ill. He said that the property, consisting of a laptop, a flat-screen TV, pieces of Waterford Crystal and 20 rugs, was owned by Mr Andy O’Brien and had been taken during the course of a burglary.
Garda Brauders said that he was happy that the defendant, whose only previous convictions were road traffic matters, had taken no part in the burglary and that she played a minor part in the whole incident.
Cash’s solicitor said that she was a mother of seven and was facing a difficult time at the moment as the family were being made homeless. He said that they are currently going site to site and are finding it very hard.
Upon hearing all the evidence, Judge Haughton opted to give Cash the benefit of the Probation Act Section 1.2, recording a conviction, but not imposing a penalty.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 12:50PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Below is the entire story. Maybe now you will stop taking snippets from it & twisting them to suit your narrative. Below are the facts. The group were possibly staking out more homes ( I don't know this for sure) but Cash was that drunk she not only couldn't make an escape but had to be taken to hospital she was that ill. I'd imagine this is why the Garda was certain enough to say under oath that "that he was happy that the defendant, whose only previous convictions were road traffic matters, had taken no part in the burglary and that she played a minor part in the whole incident."

minor
ˈmʌɪnə/
adjective
adjective: minor
1.
lesser in importance, seriousness, or significance.

These are the facts. The whole story for everyone to see.
Only one criminal conviction Unless someone can find a link to another one.

I wont be replying to anymore of your comments on this subject. I've had enough lies & twisting of facts. Your comments & replies have just become childish & aren't adding (factual) to the thread

All that proves is she fed the guard a sob story and he bought it.

Clearly along with height and fitness requirements, they dropped the IQ requirement too at Templemore.

holyhead · 13-08-2018 12:54PM

In theory I should feel sorry for her. However this whole scenario brings to mind a number of questions

Why did she have so many children?
Why are the father/s not providing for them?
Why should the state be responsible financially?
Why aren't her family looking after her or out for her?
Why has no media or politician had the cojones to ask the obvious questions?
Have social services being involved in terms of the welfare of the children?

Samsgirl · 13-08-2018 12:58PM

Prisoner 6753 wrote: »

In relation to sharing and separate rooms, it’s once children are over 10 and of opposite gender that they must have separate rooms.

Fir example, you couldn’t have a menstruating female teenager sharing a room with a male toddler.

She only has one daughter who for whatever reason is staying with relatives (medical I believe).

Is there a major issue with bits of different ages, infants aside, using bunk beds?

2 to a box room or 4 to a standard bedroom etc?

God be with the day me ma was raised in a 3 bed semi and there was 12 of them, it done the job, no crying out for ‘entitlements’ in those days

Why couldn't you have a mensturating teenager sharing a room with a male toddler??
Periods aren't contagious?

Lollipops23 · 13-08-2018 01:02PM

Samsgirl wrote: »

Why couldn't you have a mensturating teenager sharing a room with a male toddler??
Periods aren't contagious?

I shared a room with my younger brother (age 1-2) before our family moved into a bigger house when I was 13. I got my period at 11.

We both survived.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 01:07PM

Lollipops23 wrote: »

I shared a room with my younger brother (age 1-2) before our family moved into a bigger house when I was 13. I got my period at 11.

We both survived.

I'm 4 years older than my brother - nearest he did was at 12 run round outside with two Lillets up his nose.

Was hilarious!

KrustyUCC · 13-08-2018 01:07PM

holyhead wrote: »

Why did she have so many children?

“You don’t plan to have so many kids, it just happens.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6997892/homeless-mum-sleep-police-station-six-kids-blasts-facebook-trolls/

holyhead wrote: »

Why are the father/s not providing for them?

"Many internet trolls demanded information about the children's father, but according to Ms Cash: "He's not relevant."

Speaking to the Sunday World, she said: "He's not on the scene. I separated from him last year."

The 28-year-old's former long-term partner, John McCarthy, was remanded in the custody of Cloverhill Prison on July 25.

He is facing charges of assault at Westmoreland Street on June 24, engaging in threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour and possession of an offensive weapon, involving a sharpened tent spike."

https://www.herald.ie/news/mum-and-s...-37209313.html

He didn't seem to be doing a good job providing for the kids before that either

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 13-08-2018 01:11PM

Samsgirl wrote: »

Why couldn't you have a mensturating teenager sharing a room with a male toddler??
Periods aren't contagious?

It's their (council's) rules, not mine. Once opposite genders reach 10 they need separate rooms.

Personally it wouldn't bother me

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 01:14PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

All that proves is she fed the guard a sob story and he bought it.

Clearly along with height and fitness requirements, they dropped the IQ requirement too at Templemore.

Here's the thing, In Ireland we have a court of law & we respect it's verdict.

By your way of thinking you think it perfectly ok for people to post that the rugby players in the north are rapists even though a court of law couldn't find enough evidence to convict them. They were found not guilty. Did they feed the jury a sob story & they bought it?

That's not how our legal system works. The lads in the north are not guilty in the same way that Cash is only guilty of what she is convicted of. We don't get to pick & choose what verdicts are right or wrong

Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

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