Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

Silent Running · 13-08-2018 11:35AM

Mike Hoch wrote: »

This.

For all his faults I think Enda Kenny was a nice, if somewhat incompetent man. He could have done better, but I think he genuinely cared for the state of the nation.

Leo is, frankly, a weirdo (in my own opinion, of course) I get the distinct feeling that he has few, if any, friends outside of the FG movement, and certainly none who could currently be described as working class people. His every move is calculated on his career advancement, as opposed to the advancement of his people.

Lest we forget, it was Enda that stuck us with the ethnic minority bollox. A last parting kick in the goolies before he swanned off into the sunset.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 11:36AM

Blazer wrote: »

Exactly, SF are no friends of the working class as they see through the bull**** SF promise. The only people who support them are the welfare and low income class who all want their slice of the pie promised by SF. And someone has to pay for that.

Yep, I'm from a staunch Republican family but if my granddad heard them slagging off people who worked hard he'd be disgusted and legend has it he met Arthur Griffith back in the day.

22michael44 · 13-08-2018 11:37AM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

So you DON'T begrudge a wagon abusing the system to get get 50 grand a year tax free and have a lifestyle most dream of but you DO begrudge a taxpayer who has 20 hours of commuting to kill and relaxes watching TV ?

Oh and for full disclosure ? The telly is a 42" job and I saved for four months to buy it.

i don't begrudge you anything, you're a working taxpayer as you say, what possible reason would i have. i just think the rhetoric is a bit much at times. speak for yourself but i'm personally not dreaming of having Mrs. Cash's lifestyle.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 13-08-2018 11:38AM

Silent Running wrote: »

Lest we forget, it was Enda that stuck us with the ethnic minority bollox. A last parting kick in the goolies before he swanned off into the sunset.

With massive pensions might I add.

Reati · 13-08-2018 11:39AM

Great to see this thread is still going after 171 pages and yet not a tap done. Anyone contact a TD? Anyone contact Regina Doherty?

Gatling · 13-08-2018 11:39AM

dav3 wrote: »

It has been reported long before this story even appeared that hotels won't overcrowd their rooms for obvious reasons. A large family usually requires a suite in a hotel.

This leaves the family with only a handful of choices

1) Sleep rough on the streets.
2) Leave one or more children behind to fend for themselves.
3) Follow the advice of the person on the end of the phone and head to your nearest Garda station with the hope of sorting accommodation for the following night (which is what happened in this case).

Bolloxolgy .

No children would have been left behind to fend for themselves .

She was offered beds and a place in Meath for the whole family ,not part ,not half but the whole family including transport there .

Enough of the bs

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 13-08-2018 11:40AM

Reati wrote: »

Great to see this thread is still going after 171 pages and yet not a tap done. Anyone contact a TD? Anyone contact Regina Doherty?

I'd be afraid to contact Regina Doherty, that one is as corrupt as the next politician.

Knowing her she is drawing up plans to boost the woman's income to over 100k a year, election on the way and that...…….

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 11:42AM

blackwhite wrote:

They had no evidence that she played any part in the robbery of the goods that were found with her - because when the GardaÃ disturbed them it was another robbery they were scouting out.

Twisting facts again and put in your own narrative.

You don't know proof why they had no proof. There was no suggestion in court that she could have been stealing. No evidence of her fingerprints on the stole goods. No evidence of anything except of her being drunk in the vehicle while others ran from the vehicle. It is possible that she was too drunk to get away

She was convicted of possession of stolen goods. The Garda said (under oath) that she didn't steal anything.

Is the Garda lying? Did he also fail in his duty by not telling the judge about all of these criminal convictions that you imply she had.

You do not paint a pretty picture of the Garda in this case

Turnipman · 13-08-2018 11:43AM

22michael44 wrote: »

boxsets, PGA, fantasy football...just hardly sounds like someone whose every waking hour is spent against the grindstone. maybe i've caught you on a rare good week. i think it is relevant when you're going on about the misery of being a full-time working stiff so much in this thread. just like this woman's personal life or facebook posts is relevant to the new story.

Wow - the dead sheep has morphed into a dying wasp!

Turnipman · 13-08-2018 11:44AM

Reati wrote: »

Great to see this thread is still going after 171 pages and yet not a tap done. Anyone contact a TD? Anyone contact Regina Doherty?

I sent a letter to my local Sinn Fein MP.

jmayo · 13-08-2018 11:45AM

22michael44 wrote: »

why get mad at her in this situation instead of getting mad about the fact working couples can't afford their mortgage or get by in our society? classic divide and conquer.

Has it ever crossed that mind of yours that working couples can't afford their mortgage because they are taxed more than they should because we have a very generous welfare system that allows people a lifetime of leeching off the state ala this woman and her ilk.

BTW could you actually divert that mind of yours to just think for a moment about all those couples who have just one child because they can't afford to have anymore.
Yet they are taxed so that a leeching cow can have 6.

Than ask yourself how is that fair.

BTW I don't expect any meaningful response going by the calibre of most of your posts. :rolleyes:

22michael44 wrote: »

i've thought about it and i still don't know what the point is otherwise and what i'm supposed to take from it.

look, i don't have a problem with taxation. i worked in a soul-destroying job for over a decade where i'd often pay 25% of my gross pay in tax. i'm fine with it if it means that when i, or anyone else, fall on hard times there's a welfare system there for me. a lot of you don't feel the same way, obviously. but demonising people on benefits (and even if you're 'right' about this person, it's still demonising) is a slippery slope. be wide

25% of your gross salary on tax ?

Come back to us when it is nearer 50%.

Oh and the thing this woman didn't just fall on hard times, she never ever contributed to the system.
She never tried.
She was always a leech and always will be.

Melendez wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

FFS the hair splitting brigade are out in force.
She was found intoxicated ij a car full of stolen loot.

Remind us again why her hubby is inside ?

Ha Long Bay · 13-08-2018 11:45AM

Reati wrote: »

Great to see this thread is still going after 171 pages and yet not a tap done. Anyone contact a TD? Anyone contact Regina Doherty?

I contacted all of my local representatives one from FG, FF, SF and SD to ask their party stance on this and have not received a reply from any of them.

joeguevara · 13-08-2018 11:46AM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Well apart from to tell us how awful we are for working hard!

Can you show me where I said that? As someone who works every hour god sends it is something I would never say.

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 11:47AM

PlaneSpeeking wrote:

Back at ya.

The DPP did not win any of the cases. The judge did not believe that walking into the Gardai was assault. There were dozens of video footage and tv3 footage.

22michael44 · 13-08-2018 11:47AM

jmayo wrote: »

Has it ever crossed that mind of yours that working couples can't afford their mortgage because they are taxed more than they should because we have a very generous welfare system that allows people a lifetime of leeching off the state ala this woman and her ilk.

BTW could you actually divert that mind of yours to just think for a moment about all those couples who have just one child because they can't afford to have anymore.
Yet they are taxed so that a leeching cow can have 6.

Than ask yourself how is that fair.

BTW I don't expect any meaningful response going by the calibre of most of your posts. :rolleyes:

25% of your gross salary on tax ?

Come back to us when it is nearer 50%.

Oh and the thing this woman didn't just fall on hard times, she never ever contributed to the system.
She never tried.
She was always a leech and always will be.

FFS the hair splitting brigade are out in force.
She was found intoxicated ij a car full of stolen loot.

Remind us again why her hubby is inside ?

i was going to answer this jmayo but insulting someone before they have a chance to answer is a bit rude.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 11:48AM

john4321 wrote: »

I contacted all of my local representatives one from FG, FF, SF and SD to ask their party stance on this and have not received a reply from any of them.

I have two FGs one of whom is a government minister so not expecting much, the SF one is neither use nor ornament and one of the FFs is Barry Cowan.

Not really worth writing but you got to try.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 11:49AM

joeguevara wrote: »

Can you show me where I said that? As someone who works every hour god sends it is something I would never say.

Sorry, not you - the others defending her.

Apologies - you're clearly one of the good guys! Kudos!

mikemac2 · 13-08-2018 11:51AM

Blazer wrote: »

And one more thing...people should never elect single people into power. They lack empathy and are always more selfish. Look at Teresa May in the UK, when her opponent t for the PM role said she would make a better PM than May as she has children and therefore has more empathy for people she was slaughtered for it. And she was right. Even my mate who’s a die hard Tory and hates the welfare class with a passion have stated May went completely overboard with welfare cuts and put vulnerable people below the poverty line.
It’s not till they settle down and have kids do they realize there’s more to life than themselves.
I know I learnt this.

Teresa May is happily married for over 30 years. She discussed her marriage plently of times when she took over the party. Single she ain’t

Your post is like many on boards. Someone says “as a parent” as if theirs is the only opinion that matters

Thatcher had two children, not many would say she was compassionate and caring

Wheeliebin30 · 13-08-2018 11:52AM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I have two FGs one of whom is a government minister so not expecting much, the SF one is neither use nor ornament and one of the FFs is Barry Cowan.

Not really worth writing but you got to try.

Spineless the lot of them.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 11:53AM

mikemac2 wrote: »

Teresa May is happily married for over 30 years. She discussed her marriage plently of times when she took over the party. Single she ain’t

Your post is like many on boards. Someone says “as a parent” as if theirs is the only opinion that matters

Thatcher had two children, not many would say she was compassionate and caring

I tune out any opinions that start "well speaking as a parent" or the one I read in the Metro comments "talking with my mommy hat on here".

GRRRRR.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 11:54AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Spineless the lot of them.

Yep - and yet who is the only politician to grace my doors in years ?

Ronan f**king Mullen during the marriage referendum.

Had great pleasure telling him to sod off.

Turnipman · 13-08-2018 11:57AM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I have two FGs one of whom is a government minister so not expecting much, the SF one is neither use nor ornament and one of the FFs is Barry Cowan.

Not really worth writing but you got to try.

But didn't your SF TD leave the party over the 8th Amendment?

She's now independently useless!

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 11:57AM

Turnipman wrote: »

But didn't your SF TD leave the party over the 8th Amendment?

She's now independently useless.

No, where I live the SF TD is a bloke.

So still party whipped and useless!

Lollipops23 · 13-08-2018 11:58AM

My OH got the news that he's been made redundant this morning. We've spent the morning panicking and worried sick about how we'll make ends meet until he gets something else sorted.

Must be nice to not have that mentality of wanting to work for everything we have, and for wanting to pay our way in the world.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 11:59AM

Lollipops23 wrote: »

My OH got the news that he's been made redundant this morning. We've spent the morning panicking and worried sick about how we'll make ends meet until he gets something else sorted.

Must be nice to not have that mentality of wanting to work for everything we have, and for wanting to pay our way in the world.

Good luck to you, hope you get sorted.

blackwhite · 13-08-2018 12:01PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Twisting facts again and put in your own narrative.

You don't know proof why they had no proof. There was no suggestion in court that she could have been stealing. No evidence of her fingerprints on the stole goods. No evidence of anything except of her being drunk in the vehicle while others ran from the vehicle. It is possible that she was too drunk to get away

She was convicted of possession of stolen goods. The Garda said (under oath) that she didn't steal anything.

Is the Garda lying? Did he also fail in his duty by not telling the judge about all of these criminal convictions that you imply she had.

You do not paint a pretty picture of the Garda in this case

Fingers in the ears going “la, la, la” wouldn’t be much different to what you are posting at this stage.

The car was pursued because they were “acting suspiciously” i.e. double speak for looking like scouting out houses to rob. Her companions all abandoned the car and fled.

Yet we get useful idiots trying to pretend that she was just a passenger with some friends out for a spin, and was unlucky that some stolen goods miraculously appeared in the car :rolleyes:

People aren’t as gullible as you and your ilk seem to wish them to be.

22michael44 · 13-08-2018 12:02PM

Lollipops23 wrote: »

My OH got the news that he's been made redundant this morning. We've spent the morning panicking and worried sick about how we'll make ends meet until he gets something else sorted.

Must be nice to not have that mentality of wanting to work for everything we have, and for wanting to pay our way in the world.

i was made redundant before and didn't go in to claim JB for ages because i felt i could pay my way. i was an idiot. make sure you march down to intreo and claim whatever you can, it doesn't contradict that mentality in any way, you've earned the right.

Blazer · 13-08-2018 12:02PM

I’ve hammered RTE, the independent and the journal online. Have got a ton of likes for my comments but it’s like banging my head against the wall. The media are on a roll to blame it all on the government and to hell with the backstory.

Turnipman · 13-08-2018 12:08PM

Blazer wrote: »

I’ve hammered RTE, the independent and the journal online. Have got a ton of likes for my comments but it’s like banging my head against the wall. The media are on a roll to blame it all on the government and to hell with the backstory.

If you're a journo, it's far easier to follow the herd than to think for oneself.

Furthermore, since the Sunday Times shafted Kevin Myers about 12 months ago, there isn't a journalist left in Ireland with the integrity to ask hard questions.

jmayo · 13-08-2018 12:10PM

Lollipops23 wrote: »

My OH got the news that he's been made redundant this morning. We've spent the morning panicking and worried sick about how we'll make ends meet until he gets something else sorted.

Must be nice to not have that mentality of wanting to work for everything we have, and for wanting to pay our way in the world.

To me this is what welfare is meant for,
those that hit rough times and are planning to work again.

Best of luck to you.

22michael44 wrote: »

i was made redundant before and didn't go in to claim JB for ages because i felt i could pay my way. i was an idiot. make sure you march down to intreo and claim whatever you can, it doesn't contradict that mentality in any way, you've earned the right.

So how can you defend someone that never ever bothered to contribute and is destined to just leech as much as possible out of the system till her dying day ?

BTW I was made redundant once as company went bust few weeks before Christmas so do know what it is like.

Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

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