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Should we protest against the pope's visit?

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  • #662
    An_Toirpin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 424 ✭✭An_Toirpin


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    Eh. The state is picking up a large bill for the junket too. Why is everyone else having to pay for the free loading pope?
    because that is the rules of gov protocol. Do you think the state sent a bill to

    Bill Gates when he visited Dublin in 2013? With ye guys it is one rule for you and another for religious.


    And the state didn't even pay all of the bill. Futhermore, any state contribution is made pointless if the event is not used.


  • #663
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    An_Toirpin wrote: »
    because that is the rules of gov protocol. Do you think the state sent a bill to

    Bill Gates when he visited Dublin in 2013? With ye guys it is one rule for you and another for religious.


    And the state didn't even pay all of the bill. Futhermore, any state contribution is made pointless if the event is not used.

    The pope invited himself. Usually the state pays when dignitaries are invited. If catholics want a love in then they should foot the whole bill.


  • #664
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    An_Toirpin wrote:
    Bill Gates when he visited Dublin in 2013? With ye guys it is one rule for you and another for religious.


    Bill Gates organisation wasn't involved in the rape and abuse of children. Frank can't make the same claim now can he?


  • #665
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    An_Toirpin wrote: »
    because that is the rules of gov protocol. Do you think the state sent a bill to

    Bill Gates when he visited Dublin in 2013? With ye guys it is one rule for you and another for religious.


    And the state didn't even pay all of the bill. Futhermore, any state contribution is made pointless if the event is not used.
    Pretty sure that Bill Gates isn't the Head of an organisation that actively covered up sexual abuse and refused to compensate victims. Plus Gates actually contributes to pretty high levels of employment in Ireland so is of net benefit to State. Cost would have been far lower too....


  • #666
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    Eh. The state is picking up a large bill for the junket too. Why is everyone else having to pay for the free loading pope?
    Because thats the way the system works. Why should people who are not interested in soccer, rugby, hockey etc have to pay for facilities for others?
    Why should we pay Michael Ds hotel bills etc etc etc.
    This bull**** just shows up the so called liberals are not that liberal after all


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  • #667
    Turnipman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Turnipman


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    The pope invited himself. Usually the state pays when dignitaries are invited. If catholics want a love in then they should foot the whole bill.

    It that case, seeing as almost 80% of the Irish population professed to be Roman Catholic in the 2016 census (2016) it appears completely appropriate that the State in which they choose to reside should foot the bill.


  • #668
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Turnipman wrote: »
    It that case, seeing as almost 80% of the Irish population professed to be Roman Catholic in the 2016 census (2016) it appears completely appropriate that the State in which they choose to reside should foot the bill.

    If he was invited by the state then yes it would be appropriate. In this case it’s completely inappropriate. He invited himself.

    Also, the census is completely inaccurate with regards religion. Even those within the RCC question it.


  • #669
    Turnipman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Turnipman


    Fighting Tao wrote: »

    .. the census is completely inaccurate with regards religion. Even the RCC question it.

    Good to read that you regard the RCC as a reputable source! Were you genuflecting as you typed out that piece of tripe?


  • #670
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Turnipman wrote: »
    Good to read that you regard the RCC as a reputable source! Were you genuflecting as you typed out that piece of tripe?

    So you don’t think that the RCC questioning the overly high RCC identification in the census is important. To me it’s great news. They doubt their own records and the census. They do not believe that their membership is anywhere near what the census implies. They are recognising that they are becoming redundant to society in general and with speed.


  • #671
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Turnipman wrote:
    It that case, seeing as almost 80% of the Irish population professed to be Roman Catholic in the 2016 census (2016) it appears completely appropriate that the State in which they choose to reside should foot the bill.


    Mass attendance would contradict the honesty of the 80%.


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  • #672
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    An_Toirpin wrote: »
    The lovely illiberal Say Nope to the Pope crowd are punishing her. Victim of the anti Pope hysteria.

    Well him arriving has prevented me from flying over that weekend to see my family, swings and roundabouts i suppose.


  • #673
    An_Toirpin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 424 ✭✭An_Toirpin


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Bill Gates organisation wasn't involved in the rape and abuse of children. Frank can't make the same claim now can he?
    :rolleyes: If you think an organisation as big as Microsoft wouldn't be involved in such you'd be naive and a quick google will verify my point.


  • #674
    An_Toirpin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 424 ✭✭An_Toirpin


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Well him arriving has prevented me from flying over that weekend to see my family, swings and roundabouts i suppose.
    Nope. That is a free market force of a service provider. No travel company is trying to stop you having a sojurn away but these protestors are literally trying to stop people.


  • #675
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    An_Toirpin wrote: »
    :rolleyes: If you think an organisation as big as Microsoft wouldn't be involved in such you'd be naive and a quick google will verify my point.

    That statement is incredible. Have you reported your claims of Microsoft’s sexual abuse of minors to the guards?


  • #676
    work
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭work


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    work wrote: »
    Does "the young lad" have any clue about his state and family supportred cult indoctrination. Does he or you look at the organisation's history and still support it? Or is this just "blind faith" like they tell you you must have.
    It is shocking and sad the self indulgence that takes place for a communion giving credence to this organisation. Most people letting their kids take communion couldn't give a toss about religeon and many don't believe the Bullsxxt. But it is this type of lie that makes them appear to have support. Stop the lies.
    He comes from a strong line of Irish Catholics. His father once even considered becoming a Priest in the Catholic Church.

    He can do what he wants when he matures and I'll stand by him. He can strive for anything anything he desires.


    Don't you dare try to give me child rearing advice. Live what I went through.

    Have you explained to your son the evil the RCC has perpetrated on you, your family and the country and world. He must be very mature and forgiving. I applaud your forgiveness of this self-serving evil group but I cannot support you.
    You are on an open forum so I can give you whatever advice I like. If you do not like it boo hoo get off boards, oh yes otherwise just ignore it!


  • #677
    work
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭work


    An_Toirpin wrote: »
    veryangryman wrote: »
    How very Christian of you
    I love when mad secularists here attack contrarians here who they think are Catholic for not being Catholic enough even though they reject Catholicism and don't know the poster's beliefs.
    They were taking the pixx, but I assume do are you with this post and the previous one about a ticket for a family member and really most everything you post .....hard to see the through the mud


  • #678
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    I was going to have a lovely visit to ireland to visit family but alas at €450 per person per night for a hotel room due to the white wizard arriving that weekend I've had to make other plans.




    Well I suppose there are two possible solutions to that:


    1) Get a (better?) job so that you can afford to stay in a nice hotel
    or
    2) Be a nicer person so that your family might stop making excuses as to why you can't stay in their houses


    :pac:


  • #679
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Well I suppose there are two possible solutions to that:


    1) Get a (better?) job so that you can afford to stay in a nice hotel
    or
    2) Be a nicer person so that your family might stop making excuses as to why you can't stay in their houses


    :pac:



    Donald Trump wrote: »


    Too many sneering **** posts on here.





    There certainly are. Mostly from you.


  • #680
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Well I suppose there are two possible solutions to that:


    1) Get a (better?) job so that you can afford to stay in a nice hotel
    or
    2) Be a nicer person so that your family might stop making excuses as to why you can't stay in their houses


    :pac:

    What a vile post, reported


  • #681
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    What a vile post, reported




    Awwwwww.




    So much for your sneery "white wizard" shite?


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  • #682
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    It has been repeatedly said to you that the tickets were taken down from sale as the sale window had expired. NOT that they ran out.

    Nobody denied anybody anything. Nobody, not a single sinner, zip, zilch.
    You are finding outrage where there is none to be had.

    Stop being so bloody obtuse.


    Yeah, I understand it was said to me.



    But just because some gobshite says something, doesn't make it true




    https://www.worldmeeting2018.ie/en/Tickets/Closing-Mass-ticket-only
    Tickets for the Final Mass in the Phoenix Park are now booked out.


    https://www.thesun.ie/news/2822155/all-tickets-for-pope-francis-mass-in-dublins-phoenix-park-snapped-up-as-500000-slots-booked-out/
    All tickets for Pope Francis mass in Dublin’s Phoenix Park snapped up as 500,000 slots booked out


    Feel free to post any information/evidence that contradicts this. Not some eejit posting something on Boards or Facebook or Twitter


  • #683
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Received my (protest)ticket allocation. Must say very easy. Just to download and print, not wasting the ink.


  • #684
    An_Toirpin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 424 ✭✭An_Toirpin


    work wrote: »
    They were taking the pixx, but I assume do are you with this post and the previous one about a ticket for a family member and really most everything you post .....hard to see the through the mud
    I have never sarcastic in this thread or taking the pixx.


  • #685
    An_Toirpin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 424 ✭✭An_Toirpin


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    The pope invited himself. Usually the state pays when dignitaries are invited. If catholics want a love in then they should foot the whole bill.
    :confused::confused::confused::confused:
    Do you ever fact check? Ever? Enda Kenny invited him formally in 2016. How could you not know that?
    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    That statement is incredible. Have you reported your claims of Microsoft’s sexual abuse of minors to the guards?
    Look for youself online. What is incredible is how you apply certain religions to a vastly higher moral standard than everything else.


  • #686
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    An_Toirpin wrote: »
    :confused::confused::confused::confused:
    Do you ever fact check? Ever? Enda Kenny invited him formally in 2016. How could you not know that?


    Look for youself online. What is incredible is how you apply certain religions to a vastly higher moral standard than everything else.

    So it took 2 years to accept. Nah, he invited himself this time and he hoped it would be just before the abortion referendum.

    Anyway. Have you gone to the guards about Microsoft raping Irish children?


  • #687
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    So after all the belly-aching and namecalling from the pope lovers nobody who wanted a ticket was actually prevented from getting one as it didnt sell out?

    Well you'll believe that blindly without facts as it suits your own particular bigoted agenda.

    But it's false. All tickets were booked out


  • #688
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    So it took 2 years to accept. Nah, he invited himself this time and he hoped it would be just before the abortion referendum.

    Anyway. Have you gone to the guards about Microsoft raping Irish children?




    What is it with you and the obsession with raping kids?




    You might want to see someone for help with that


  • #689
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    What is it with you and the obsession with raping kids?




    You might want to see someone for help with that


    It is your side that has the obsession with that.


  • #690
    An_Toirpin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 424 ✭✭An_Toirpin


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    So it took 2 years to accept. Nah, he invited himself this time and he hoped it would be just before the abortion referendum.

    Anyway. Have you gone to the guards about Microsoft raping Irish children?
    I am not drawing any moral equivalence so I don't know you are you implying I am. I dont think you understand the abuse scandals.


    Yes, it took years to follow up. Ireland is a small periperal place in the Catholic world.

    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Well you'll believe that blindly without facts as it suits your own particular bigoted agenda.

    But it's false. All tickets were booked out
    I wanted one for a UK resident. I couldn't obtain one due to the bigoted louts who booked them to block them.


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  • #691
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    An_Toirpin wrote: »
    :confused::confused::confused::confused:
    Do you ever fact check? Ever? Enda Kenny invited him formally in 2016. How could you not know that?


    Look for youself online. What is incredible is how you apply certain religions to a vastly higher moral standard than everything else.


    the papal visit is not a state visit. Kenny may have invited him 2 years ago but that is not why the pope will be here. He is here for World Meeting of Families. this is a private visit by the pope, not a state visit.


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/government-prepares-for-pope-s-arrival-as-if-it-were-state-visit-1.3366980

    he Government is preparing for the visit of Pope Francis to Ireland later this year as if it were a State visit. Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said “even though it is not formally a State visit the assistance provided to Pope Francis will be the same as if it were.
    “So Pope Francis will be given the full supports of the State in terms of protocol, security and any other matters.”


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