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Should we protest against the pope's visit?

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  • #632
    work
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭work


    nthclare wrote: »
    Protesting against the pope is like arguing with a narcissist.....
    Do you seriously think he'll give a toss over a protest or feel any empathy for the cause of a protest....feck no....

    I could think of more productive things to do that day to be honest....
    Not protesting shows you accept or support this. The RCC couldn't care less if you protest I agree but the policy makers looking for votes and who decide the direction of the state certainly do....so save the children from the lies, try and prevent more indoctrination and protest.


  • #633
    work
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭work


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    The three of us are going to see Francis at Croke Park.

    The young lad is really exicited, he will be making his Communion next year.


    I'm looking so forward to it also, it will be the only chance that I'll get to see the Pope on home soil in my lifetime.
    Does "the young lad" have any clue about his state and family supportred cult indoctrination. Does he or you look at the organisation's history and still support it? Or is this just "blind faith" like they tell you you must have.
    It is shocking and sad the self indulgence that takes place for a communion giving credence to this organisation. Most people letting their kids take communion couldn't give a toss about religeon and many don't believe the Bullsxxt. But it is this type of lie that makes them appear to have support. Stop the lies.


  • #634
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    work wrote: »
    Does "the young lad" have any clue about his state and family supportred cult indoctrination. Does he or you look at the organisation's history and still support it? Or is this just "blind faith" like they tell you you must have.
    It is shocking and sad the self indulgence that takes place for a communion giving credence to this organisation. Most people letting their kids take communion couldn't give a toss about religeon and many don't believe the Bullsxxt. But it is this type of lie that makes them appear to have support. Stop the lies.
    He comes from a strong line of Irish Catholics. His father once even considered becoming a Priest in the Catholic Church.

    He can do what he wants when he matures and I'll stand by him. He can strive for anything anything he desires.


    Don't you dare try to give me child rearing advice. Live what I went through.


  • #635
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote:
    Don't you dare try to give me child rearing advice. Live what I went through.


    What advice?


  • #636
    veryangryman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,726 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »


    Don't you dare try to give me child rearing advice. Live what I went through.

    How very Christian of you


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  • #637
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    [QUOTE=work;107760583]Not protesting shows you accept or support this. The RCC couldn't care less if you protest I agree but the policy makers looking for votes and who decide the direction of the state certainly do....so save the children from the lies, try and prevent more indoctrination and protest.[/QUOTE]

    No it does not. Shows trhat you are mature enough to live now and to know that staying angry and hostile is letting the wrongdoers win and take over your life, and your future

    I am an abuse survivor and \i decided not to live in hate and anger but in caring fror others and in faith.

    By all means let them and your anger rule your life; that is your choice.. and by the way I care deeply and fully. was sick days when Tuam hit the news.

    Believers have evry right to raise their children in faith. Not in anger.


  • #638
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    work wrote: »
    Does "the young lad" have any clue about his state and family supportred cult indoctrination. Does he or you look at the organisation's history and still support it? Or is this just "blind faith" like they tell you you must have.
    It is shocking and sad the self indulgence that takes place for a communion giving credence to this organisation. Most people letting their kids take communion couldn't give a toss about religeon and many don't believe the Bullsxxt. But it is this type of lie that makes them appear to have support. Stop the lies.


    there are no lies in what DLH writes.

    or in what faith teaches.


  • #639
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Graces7 wrote: »
    there are no lies in what DLH writes.

    or in what faith teaches.

    I think we will have to agree to disagreee on that.


  • #640
    ct5amr2ig1nfhp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ct5amr2ig1nfhp


    The government should introduce a religion or church tax in the next budget, similar to the church tax in Germany (8-9% of income tax)? It would have to be optional of course, as it is in Germany now. I do not want our tax money being used for the Pope's visit. 3 million is the estimate cost of security alone. Let Catholics pay for it from their own pockets. :mad:


  • #641
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Graces7 wrote: »
    No it does not. Shows trhat you are mature enough to live now and to know that staying angry and hostile is letting the wrongdoers win and take over your life, and your future

    I am an abuse survivor and \i decided not to live in hate and anger but in caring fror others and in faith.

    By all means let them and your anger rule your life; that is your choice.. and by the way I care deeply and fully. was sick days when Tuam hit the news.

    Believers have evry right to raise their children in faith. Not in anger.

    Grace it's possible to be free of anger and hatred and still want to protest. You've peddled this myth enough, not all of us protesting are ruled by anger, quite the opposite in fact. Choosing not to bring your child up in a faith that itself always seems to be complaining about something is a positive thing. Let's stop this idea that abuse survivors are all damaged and lashing out, I can assure you it's not the case.


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  • #642
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Ah jaysus. Are yiz still at it.

    Will the shower of miserable shites trying their best to ruin a nice day out for other people ever find themselves a good hobby. Or at least get something resembling a life.


  • #643
    Leroy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,053 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Ah jaysus. Are yiz still at it.

    Will the shower of miserable shites trying their best to ruin a nice day out for other people ever find themselves a good hobby. Or at least get something resembling a life.

    I know. I was planning a nice family day out at the Zoo but apparently some cult leader is coming over and so my whole day is ruined!


  • #644
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Jaylen Rapping Face wrote:
    The government should introduce a religion or church tax in the next budget, similar to the church tax in Germany (8-9% of income tax)? It would have to be optional of course, as it is in Germany now. I do not want our tax money being used for the Pope's visit. 3 million is the estimate cost of security alone. Let Catholics pay for it from their own pockets.

    That's a great idea, wonder how many would identify as Catholic if there was a tithe on their earnings.


  • #645
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,837 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    This is a real option for people who want their views on the RCC's history in relation to child abuse. This is a solidarity meeting organised by Com O'Gorman. Certainly, if I lived in Dublin I would attend this.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/colm-ogorman-calls-on-people-hurt-or-abused-by-church-to-join-solidarity-meeting-861293.html


  • #646
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Ah jaysus. Are yiz still at it.

    Will the shower of miserable shites trying their best to ruin a nice day out for other people ever find themselves a good hobby. Or at least get something resembling a life.

    I was going to have a lovely visit to ireland to visit family but alas at €450 per person per night for a hotel room due to the white wizard arriving that weekend I've had to make other plans.


  • #647
    j.s. pill II
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭j.s. pill II


    I prefer to express my opinions through song





    Something myself and my mate put together to mark the occasion :D


  • #648
    An_Toirpin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 424 ✭✭An_Toirpin


    Could some one who booked a ticket to protest cancel theres as I need one for my family member who actually wants to go?


  • #649
    An_Toirpin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 424 ✭✭An_Toirpin


    veryangryman wrote: »
    How very Christian of you
    I love when mad secularists here attack contrarians here who they think are Catholic for not being Catholic enough even though they reject Catholicism and don't know the poster's beliefs.


  • #650
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    An_Toirpin wrote: »
    Could some one who booked a ticket to protest cancel theres as I need one for my family member who actually wants to go?

    Didn’t they get to buy* one on time. They were for sale** for weeks.



    *a free one
    **couldnt give them away


  • #651
    An_Toirpin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 424 ✭✭An_Toirpin


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    Didn’t they get to buy* one on time. They were for sale** for weeks.



    *a free one
    **couldnt give them away
    And protestors blocked them which is really annoying for my family member who wants to fly in to see me and the Pope. I don't understand why she is being punished. Not even Irish.


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  • #652
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    An_Toirpin wrote: »
    And protestors blocked them which is really annoying for my family member who wants to fly in to see me and the Pope. I don't understand why she is being punished. Not even Irish.

    Sounds like she wants to jump on the bandwagon and has arrived too late as it’s already departing. No one has punished her. She didn’t bother getting her ticket on time.


  • #653
    An_Toirpin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 424 ✭✭An_Toirpin


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    Sounds like she wants to jump on the bandwagon and has arrived too late as it’s already departing. No one has punished her. She didn’t bother getting her ticket on time.
    The lovely illiberal Say Nope to the Pope crowd are punishing her. Victim of the anti Pope hysteria.


  • #654
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    An_Toirpin wrote: »
    The lovely illiberal Say Nope to the Pope crowd are punishing her. Victim of the anti Pope hysteria.

    Yes, she was pinpointed as the number one target for punishment. God must hate her.


  • #655
    Shn99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    An_Toirpin wrote: »
    Could some one who booked a ticket to protest cancel theres as I need one for my family member who actually wants to go?

    Likewise here, have a family member who wants to see him and it’ll probably be her last chance (if he doesn’t come back for another 30-40 yrs). People could’ve protested in another way instead of robbing people of the chance to see the pope( could be their last chance).


  • #656
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,837 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Everyones right is equal. Why do people think the right to go and see the Pope is a greater right than someone who wants to protest or remember the damage done by priests of the RCC in abusing children?


  • #657
    An_Toirpin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 424 ✭✭An_Toirpin


    Water John wrote: »
    Everyones right is equal. Why do people think the right to go and see the Pope is a greater right than someone who wants to protest or remember the damage done by priests of the RCC in abusing children?
    Because the "protest" threads on my liberty, while being paid for by us Catholics who have fund raised you free loader.


  • #658
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    An_Toirpin wrote: »
    Because the "protest" threads on my liberty, while being paid for by us Catholics who have fund raised you free loader.

    Eh. The state is picking up a large bill for the junket too. Why is everyone else having to pay for the free loading pope?


  • #659
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,837 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I'm quite ok with anyone getting a ticket to an event and not going. It's a silent protest. I wouldn't do it myself. The church had no problem, when I attended, in taking my donation and using it to pay for the damage done by abusive clergy.
    Think you're very selective in you're judgement.
    I cannot see how anyone can even try to minimise the gross damage done to the victims. To whinge about the form of protest they choose to use.


  • #660
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    An_Toirpin wrote:
    Could some one who booked a ticket to protest cancel theres as I need one for my family member who actually wants to go?


    That would defeat the point of acquiring tickets as a protest. Tell your relative to be quicker next time.


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  • #661
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    An_Toirpin wrote:
    Because the "protest" threads on my liberty, while being paid for by us Catholics who have fund raised you free loader.


    What 'liberty' are you being denied?


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