Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

About 50% of children are born outside of marriage today and it is not relevant.

Omackeral wrote: »

It's spin in that she was offered a house in Meath and rejected it. Ergo, they didn't have to sleep in a Garda Station, she chose that.

Forgetting about her past and that of her partner. But if what has been reported is true then the house in Meath that was offered would have meant that she would have had to leave two of her children behind. If that is true, then if you were in the same situation would you have chosen to keep your family together?

For the sake of transparency I actually think people should have waited for all the facts before they jumped on the bandwagon. Very little on social media from the same advocates now.

But if it is true that the option was to split her family up then I don’t think you can say they didn’t have to sleep in a Garda station.

joeguevara wrote: »

Again I am only going with what was reported. The newspaper said she was given a choice of a house but had to leave two kids behind.

Again, my point was if that was true then it wasn’t spin. But the main point was people jumped on a bandwagon and platform when all the facts weren’t presented and since a lot more of the backstory has come to light those same people have disappeared. The purpose of my post was that people shouldn’t have gotten involved so early until all the facts were there.

It has happened quite a lot recently. Example baby Alfie. Doctors and nurses from the hospital were being assaulted based on false information.

Time magazine cover of a child that was taken from its parents at US immigration. Turned out to be false reporting but not before millions of people jumped on a false bandwagon.

I think newstalk reported that the council wouldn’t allow the children to share a bed for h and s reasons, but this might have been journalistic free licence embellishing the story to suit their narrative. Also it could be true.

Sleeper12 wrote: »

You talk about twisting yet you fail to mention that she was only charged with handling stolen property. You fail to mention that the Garda said that sha hadn't in fact stolen any goods. And you fail to mention that the judge decided to give her the probation act, most likely because she appears to have no prior criminal convictions. There is no weather or not. The only crime that she was charged with was handling stolen goods. You are the only one twisting things

You’re the one repeated adding the “no criminal convictions” part. It was fairly clearly stated in the reports that her “family circumstances” were the driving factor in her avoiding jail time.

Handling stolen goods is all they could charge her with because some of her accomplices had fled, making it impossible to ascertain who had, and who hadn’t, been involved Int he robbery.
You seem to be trying to imply she magically transported into the car where there happened to be some stolen goods. The facts of the case is that she and 2/3 others were spotted casing places to rob. Following a chase, she and one other were caught, whilst the others managed to escape.
The car they were using to scout other robberies contained goods from a previous robbery.

It’s obvious to anyone with half a brain exactly what she was involved in, except for the deliberately obtuse who are determined to paint her in the best light possible.

Itlll be interesting to see where your next goalposts shift leads :rolleyes:

forward8 wrote: »

IT article : Half of families sleeping in Garda stations are Travellers or Romanian.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/half-of-families-sleeping-in-garda-stations-are-travellers-or-romanian-1.3594025

Regardless of their ethnicity, it's always going to be harder to house a family the more children they have because of the regulations around how many can be in one room etc.
I grew up in a 3 bed house, 1 of 6 children. My mam and dad were in 1 room, my 3 sisters and i were in another and my 2 brothers were in the other. We were fine. These days that would be classed as overcrowding

joeguevara wrote: »

Forgetting about her past and that of her partner. But if what has been reported is true then the house in Meath that was offered would have meant that she would have had to leave two of her children behind. If that is true, then if you were in the same situation would you have chosen to keep your family together?

For the sake of transparency I actually think people should have waited for all the facts before they jumped on the bandwagon. Very little on social media from the same advocates now.

But if it is true that the option was to split her family up then I don’t think you can say they didn’t have to sleep in a Garda station.

Leaving 2 children behind was baloney to cover the fact that she refused the house. If she could fit 9 of them in a 7 seater car surely she'd have no problem fitting them into a standard size house.

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Left the children behind ??? Get off the stage eh!

Ever hear of bunk beds ? A Camp bed ? Air mattress ???

All better than a cop shop chair, Jebus some folk believe anything.

If you actually read my post I was making the point that people shouldn’t judge until they had all the facts. My own opinion was that she didn’t have to stay in the station and made sure that she made the most by taking pictures and publicizing.

If you read further I said that people jumped on the bandwagon to harvest likes on their social media page.

If you read further I made the point that it is similar to a lot of other instances where social justice warriors made a snap judgment, went all in and then disappeared when the real facts came out.

But saying that, these are real kids. Forget about the wrongs of their parents, these kids still had to sleep in a Garda station. They would have been scared and confused.

So, I won’t get off a stage because I never was on one. But I do think that people who have no clue what those kids are going through should maybe think about that.