Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

Vizzy · 13-08-2018 12:41AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I haven’t made any false claims about her. I'm trying to clear up the false claims made about her. I have asked several times if anyone can post a link to the claim of 30 convictions & so far no one has. I have asked for links to the claim that she was part of the traveller criminal gang terrorising people. Again no link. All I can find is the link where the Garda says she didn't steal anything and all she was found guilty of was handing stole goods. She then got the probation act. Maybe you can post these links.

You have changed your tune a bit since you started this thread.

One eyed Jack · 13-08-2018 12:45AM

deco nate wrote: »

Imaginary figures, nope.
Look it up. You are posting bull****.

Only one poster posting bs and that is you

They are imaginary figures. I’m well aware of the various rates and so on, but nobody, and I mean nobody can possibly be aware of what any one individual is entitled to claim from the State, or how much in financial assistance they are actually receiving from the State. It just can’t be done as is being attempted here.

As you mentioned self-employed Joe Soap, I’ll stick with that example in pointing out to you that if Joe Soap also has seven children, they are entitled to apply for child benefit for each dependent child, and they are also entitled to a tax credit for each dependent child. Have you factored that into your equations?

22michael44 · 13-08-2018 12:46AM

deco nate wrote: »

How big a hole can you dig? Keep digging

see this makes no sense as a reply because what part are you even taking issue with? digging a hole for what?

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 12:46AM

blackwhite wrote:

Youâ€™ve falsely and repeated claimed she has no criminal record. Thatâ€™s a lie, and has been proven to be a lie countless time on the thread. You choosing to ignore the proof doesnâ€™t make it any less of a lie.

blackwhite wrote:

Youâ€™ve also tried to present your own guesses about the probation act as fact - and when proven to be lying yet again you donâ€™t have the decency to apologies to any posters that you accused of â€œfabricatingâ€ that she had a criminal record.

blackwhite wrote:

In the same report on the court case you refer to above, the Garda states she has multiple prior convictions for Road Traffic Offences. Itâ€™s the same story thatâ€™s been linked dozens of times - but you seem very selective in only noticing the parts you can twist into Ms Cashâ€™s favour.

I think you posted the wrong link. It doesn't say that she was drink driving. It doesn't even say that she was the driver.

It says nothing about 30 previous convictions

It says nothing about her being a traveller gang member terrorising people. It doesn't even suggest that any of the other people were travellers.

Do you have a link backing up these claims. I have genuinely been trying to get to the bottom of these claims but the posters making the claims haven't posted links to their claims

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 13-08-2018 12:46AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Oh I did read that case. The article I read do not mention previous convictions at all. I can't find anything to do with 30 conviction or running with a traveller gang. I'm sure different papers reported the case differently but all I can find is the handling stolen goods and the probation act

Are you on politics.ie as well?

Same drum being banged over there about her convictions

http://www.politics.ie/forum/health-social-affairs/265770-homeless-mother-6-children-forced-sleep-garda-station-81.html

blackwhite · 13-08-2018 12:49AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I think you posted the wrong link. It doesn't say that she was drink driving. It doesn't even say that she was the driver.

It says nothing about 30 previous convictions

It says nothing about her being a traveller gang member terrorising people. It doesn't even suggest that any of the other people were travellers.

Do you have a link backing up these claims. I have genuinely been trying to get to the bottom of these claims but the posters making the claims haven't posted links to their claims

The link refers to prior convictions (plural) - but doesn’t give a number. And that’s before we count her conviction in the most recent case in Wexford.

You’ve changed your tune from your earlier lie that she had zero convictions - are you going to apologies to all the posters you accused of “fabricating” that she has a criminal record?

Lash Into The Pints · 13-08-2018 12:51AM

Where's my free house?

anewme · 13-08-2018 12:52AM

The problem starts when do gooders try to make excuses for thieves and liars.

Ms. Cash is a thief and liar.

She should be held accountable for Stealing from hardworking people.

Should be in jail.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 13-08-2018 12:54AM

anewme wrote: »

The problem starts when do gooders try to make excuses for thieves and liars.

Ms. Cash is a thief and liar.

She should be held accountable for Stealing from hardworking people.

Should be in jail.

Having so many childer is a great source of mitigation for a lot of crimes. Plus the sob stories about difficult upbringing is in there somewhere as well. Judges are too soft, but forget to pay your tv licence and they’ll change their tune

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 12:58AM

Sleeper12 wrote:

Hopefully they might answer it. I genuinely don't know for sure but if you can only get the probation act once & if it has to be your first offence then whatever article saying she has 30 odd convictions must be about a different woman. Travellers do tend to keep the same names in the family so that's possible

Sleeper12 wrote:

I'd love someone who knows about the law to say that she can have 30 odd convictions and still get the probation act. Maybe I'm wrong but I always thought that you could only get it once & it had to be your first conviction

Sleeper12 wrote:

The only conviction I can find is the one she got the probation act for.

Sleeper12 wrote:

I can't find a link to 30 convictions or previous charges. Doesn't mean that it doesn't exist I just can't find anything close to it.

Sleeper12 wrote:

There is absolutely nothing about her being in a traveller gang terrorising people. The only place that you will find this statement is here on boards.ie. No one dug it up online.

My posts where I say that I don't know for sure about the probation act & hopefully someone who knows for sure might let us know. The 3rd quote says the only CONVICTION I can find is the one that she got the probation act for.

It's such a shame no one has links to the drink driving claim, traveller gang or 30 previous convictions. I'll let you in a little secret. Im beginning to think that people just made them up

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 01:03AM

Prisoner 6753 wrote:

Same drum being banged over there about her convictions

Hang on. I didn't bring convictions to the table. Other posters have but can't /won't link to back up their claims. The only one that I can find is the one where she got the probation act. If she is part of a traveller gang (reported on at least one other thread on boards.ie without link), was drink driving or has 30 convictions then can anyone please post links otherwise it looks like people are lying

Cantona's Collars · 13-08-2018 01:05AM

The article about her being arrested in Enniscorthy said she claimed she was being made homeless at the time. Even her staunchest defenders have to admit something is seriously wrong with her claims. Not too many people facing homelessness willing to drop 10 grand on a car or buy new Waterford crystal.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 13-08-2018 01:08AM

Lash Into The Pints wrote: »

Where's my free house?

Maggie is looking for it

Stephen15 · 13-08-2018 01:08AM

Why the hell were the children in the picture wearing a school uniform in the middle of August? I reckon the council offered her a home but she refused because it wasn't near enough to her mother or some other bs reason.

blackwhite · 13-08-2018 01:09AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

My posts where I say that I don't know for sure about the probation act & hopefully someone who knows for sure might let us know. The 3rd quote says the only CONVICTION I can find is the one that she got the probation act for.

It's such a shame no one has links to the drink driving claim, traveller gang or 30 previous convictions. I'll let you in a little secret. Im beginning to think that people just made them up

More lies. You seem the think that other posters are incapable of recalling what you posted. You very clearly claimed your little additions to the probation act to be facts - and conveniently ignored the actual Probation Act being quoted to catch you in your lie.

You also falsely claimed that the probation act being applied means that she wasn’t convicted in this case - despite the article clearly stating a conviction was recorded.

I’ll quote your post again below for you - just so you can’t pretend to have posted something else

Here’s lie no 1.

Sleeper12 wrote: »

You can't get the probation act if you already have a conviction. Therefore she can't have 30 add convictions.

And lie number 2.

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Again she got the probation act. She has NO criminal record to report. They can't make one up just to please boards.ie members

You’ve now twisted from claiming she has no prior convictions, to focussing in on a single poster mentioning 30 just to avoid admitting you’ve been the one making up rubbish time and again on here. You pulled the same BS on the Apollo House threads in the past, making spurious claims, ignoring anything that didn’t suit your narrative, and feigning ignorance time and again when proof was presented that caught you in a lie.

. Your dishonesty here is so blatant it’s sickening TBH.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 13-08-2018 01:10AM

Stephen15 wrote: »

Why the hell were the children in the picture wearing a school uniform in the middle of August?

I think that actual picture was taken when she was arrested for drink/driving and the kids were with her.

I stand to be corrected though.

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 01:13AM

blackwhite wrote:

The link refers to prior convictions (plural) - but doesnâ€™t give a number. And thatâ€™s before we count her conviction in the most recent case in Wexford.

The link refers to driving convictions not criminal conviction. Posters have claimed criminal convictions (plural) and some put the numbers above 30.
I just want to know if this is made up BS or can anyone link to back up said claims

Sleeper12 wrote:

The 3rd quote says the only CONVICTION I can find is the one that she got the probation act for.

I have also pointed out that convictions have no bearing on the story in that they won't reduce her welfare payments nor hinder her chances of getting a house. They really have nothing to do with this case at all. They merely serve the purpose of trying to lower her character. Criminals and non criminals are treated the same by social welfare

blackwhite · 13-08-2018 01:18AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

The link refers to driving convictions not criminal conviction. Posters have claimed criminal convictions (plural) and some put the numbers above 30.
I just want to know if this is made up BS or can anyone link to back up said claims

I have also pointed out that convictions have no bearing on the story in that they won't reduce her welfare payments nor hinder her chances of getting a house. They really have nothing to do with this case at all. They merely serve the purpose of trying to lower her character. Criminals and non criminals are treated the same by social welfare

So no apologies for posting lies then?

Not surprising TBH :rolleyes:

Stephen15 · 13-08-2018 01:18AM

Prisoner 6753 wrote: »

I think that actual picture was taken when she was arrested for drink/driving and the kids were with her.

I stand to be corrected though.

Wouldn't surprise me. I think it could very well be set up and it may not have even been taken in a Garda station it could very well be a social welfare office.

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 01:20AM

blackwhite wrote:

More lies. You seem the think that other posters are incapable of recalling what you posted. You very clearly claimed your little additions to the probation act to be facts - and conveniently ignored the actual Probation Act being quoted to catch you in your lie.

Go away with yourself. She has one criminal conviction & got the probation act for this.

Do you have links for drink driving?

Links for being a member of a traveller gang

Links for 30 criminal convictions. Not road traffic offences but criminal offences?

You keep trying to duck & dodge the questions.

The only link so far shows only ONE criminal conviction (singular) (not plural)

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 01:21AM

blackwhite wrote:

So no apologies for posting lies then?

Any links to back up the lies told about her???

freshpopcorn · 13-08-2018 01:22AM

Now I haven't really defended this woman here.
One thing tough, where is all this stuff coming from about the school uniform.
I am looking a Saturdays Mirror on the Cover two boys are wearing different check shirts and another is wearing a blue top with some kind of character on it another kid a few pages in seems to wearing the sames.
The pants/trousers are debatable and shoes. Some seem to be in formal pants/shoes or runners.
In my area the travellers kids always nearly wear a checked shirt and shiny black shoes.(Same with the men)

deco nate · 13-08-2018 01:24AM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

They are imaginary figures. I’m well aware of the various rates and so on, but nobody, and I mean nobody can possibly be aware of what any one individual is entitled to claim from the State, or how much in financial assistance they are actually receiving from the State. It just can’t be done as is being attempted here.

As you mentioned self-employed Joe Soap, I’ll stick with that example in pointing out to you that if Joe Soap also has seven children, they are entitled to apply for child benefit for each dependent child, and they are also entitled to a tax credit for each dependent child. Have you factored that into your equations?

Have you Factored in that what we are talking about, Strawman?
Said person has never worked a day in their life. Vs a person that pays taxes? And you think they are entitled to the same?

FOOK off strawman

blackwhite · 13-08-2018 01:25AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Go away with yourself. She has one criminal conviction & got the probation act for this.

Do you have links for drink driving?

Links for being a member of a traveller gang

Links for 30 criminal convictions. Not road traffic offences but criminal offences?

You keep trying to duck & dodge the questions.

The only link so far shows only ONE criminal conviction (singular) (not plural)

I’m sure you can link to where I’ve made any of those claims listed above?

I’ve documented with links each of the lies you have posted though....... a little bit of honesty wouldn’t go astray once in a while

deco nate · 13-08-2018 01:27AM

Lash Into The Pints wrote: »

Where's my free house?

Depends, now many bedrooms ya need?

deco nate · 13-08-2018 01:31AM

blackwhite wrote: »

I’m sure you can link to where I’ve made any of those claims listed above?

I’ve documented with links each of the lies you have posted though....... a little bit of honesty wouldn’t go astray once in a while

As have many others, have posted screengrabs. Yet they are always overlooked.
I have posted one of her looking for a car for 10 grand, as have many others in February.
Then there is the vases a week ago she bought.
There is a saying....

Cant cure stupid.

Cant help some posters on here

Gatling · 13-08-2018 01:35AM

Stephen15 wrote: »

Wouldn't surprise me. I think it could very well be set up and it may not have even been taken in a Garda station it could very well be a social welfare office.

It's not tallaght welfare office it's way too small .

It's the Garda station but it would be very interesting to see the CCTV of the waiting room released to the public

One eyed Jack · 13-08-2018 01:35AM

deco nate wrote: »

Have you Factored in that what we are talking about, Strawman?
Said person has never worked a day in their life. Vs a person that pays taxes? And you think they are entitled to the same?

FOOK off strawman

How the hell is it a strawman? It’s comparing like with like in at least what are similar circumstances in terms of the number of children both persons would have that they would be entitled to claim child benefit for!

You want to compare circumstances that aren’t alike, to such a degree that you’re willing to try and draw a comparison between what you imagine the woman in this case is entitled to claim from the State, and what someone who is self-employed may be entitled to claim from the State, or what they may already be earning, or what they are paying in tax to the State. They would be paying the same amount of tax regardless of what anyone else is claiming from the State as all revenue received by the State goes to the Exchequer, and it’s the Government decides how that revenue will be spent.

You have a beef with how much you think any one individual is claiming or is entitled to claim from the State, it may serve your interests better to take it up with your local elected representatives than bitching on social media about it, or, I dunno, talk to Joe, for all the cathartic good that’ll do.

deco nate · 13-08-2018 01:38AM

Prisoner 6753 wrote: »

I think that actual picture was taken when she was arrested for drink/driving and the kids were with her.

I stand to be corrected though.

Please don't start this lying bs.it was her in Tallaght police station.
No need for trolling /demeaning other real posters on this thread

deco nate · 13-08-2018 01:41AM

Stephen15 wrote: »

Wouldn't surprise me. I think it could very well be set up and it may not have even been taken in a Garda station it could very well be a social welfare office.

I have reported you for trolling, please stop with this derailing of the thread.
You are detracting from posts and discussion of what's going on.
Shame on you.

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