Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

deco nate · 12-08-2018 11:46PM

22michael44 wrote: »

well done on completely missing the point.

Pmsl

One eyed Jack · 12-08-2018 11:52PM

deco nate wrote: »

Ok, about the ****e you posted about people saying the money has gone up from 50 grand to 80-100 grand. And people are making things up about her, that is bull****.

She is raking in over 51 grand. That equals a working Joe on a wage of about 85 grand BEFORE Tax.
Can we stop the bs now?
No, it's not gonna happen.

Clearly you have no intention of stopping the BS. For a start we have no possible way of knowing how much an individual is entitled to claim in benefits or assistance from the State as each case will depend on each individuals circumstances.

Secondly, working Joe and what they may or may not earn before or after tax is entirely irrelevant, it’s just a way to bump up the imaginary figures you’re already speculating about.

If you want to cut out the BS, by all means let’s do just that. I’m all for it.

Sleeper12 · 12-08-2018 11:56PM

anewme wrote:

This woman is nothing but a cheat, liar and a criminal.

Who? The only woman in the quote is my wife. I can assure you that she is she is not a cheat, liar or a criminal. Please check your information before spreading rumours about a woman

deco nate · 12-08-2018 11:56PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

What do you mean by the self-employed get a shìtty deal when they need a bit of help? They have the same entitlement to assistance from the State as anyone else when they need a bit of help, even each and every martyr in this thread.

They don't, you need to do a bit of research.

anewme · 12-08-2018 11:56PM

You have excused her Communion dress fiasco.

How do you feel about. Her asking to buy cars for 10k?

Where do you think she got 10k from. It won't be a loan as she won't qualify. .

More savings???

deco nate · 13-08-2018 12:00AM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Clearly you have no intention of stopping the BS. For a start we have no possible way of knowing how much an individual is entitled to claim in benefits or assistance from the State as each case will depend on each individuals circumstances.

Secondly, working Joe and what they may or may not earn before or after tax is entirely irrelevant, it’s just a way to bump up the imaginary figures you’re already speculating about.

If you want to cut out the BS, by all means let’s do just that. I’m all for it.

By your posts I'm assuming you're some kind of crazy person. It has been posted here before, and yet you are spouting bs! Go look it up. No wait hang on, I'll do it for you....troll/Strawman , "no way of know how much" bs

blackwhite · 13-08-2018 12:00AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Who? The only woman in the quote is my wife. I can assure you that she is she is not a cheat, liar or a criminal. Please check your information before spreading rumours about a woman

So no acknowledgment of the lies you’ve been spreading then?

You’ve a nasty habit of ignoring anything that disproves your false claims, or anything that doesn’t suit your agenda

Gen.Zhukov · 13-08-2018 12:02AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Who? The only woman in the quote is my wife. I can assure you that she is she is not a cheat, liar or a criminal. Please check your information before spreading rumours about a woman

Seriously? anewme was referring to Ms Cash.

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 12:03AM

One eyed Jack wrote:

What do you mean by the self-employed get a shÃ¬tty deal when they need a bit of help? They have the same entitlement to assistance from the State as anyone else when they need a bit of help, even each and every martyr in this thread.

Totally true. The socal welfare deny it & the government in general don't tell anyone about it. Self employed aren't entitled to dole /job seekers allowance however they are entitled to a means tested payment. I'm not sure what it's called. You will be turned down in the dole office & would need to go to the community welfare office but everyone in the state is entitled to some help when times get tough. It's one of the great things about Ireland.

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 12:04AM

deco nate wrote:

They don't, you need to do a bit of research.

Self employed do qualify for means tested welfare but not full dole

Spanish Eyes · 13-08-2018 12:06AM

I hope those still posting are either retired or on the scratch or on a day off tomorrow.

I'm one of them. Guess which one lol.

One eyed Jack · 13-08-2018 12:06AM

deco nate wrote: »

They don't, you need to do a bit of research.

I have my research done. I’m still not entirely sure what PlaneSpeaking was referring to, but if they mean people who are self-employed aren’t entitled to make a claim for social welfare entitlement, they’d be wrong -

Self-employed and unemployment

Maybe something else they were referring to? Perhaps PlaneSpeaking if you wouldn’t mind clarifying what you were referring to I might be able to help clear up any persistent myths you might believe about self-employed persons entitlements and social welfare?

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 12:09AM

Gen.Zhukov wrote:

Seriously? anewme was referring to Ms Cash.

And yet he quoted me talking about my wife. It's not clear at all to me. There was no mention about cash in the post. We were talking about how few days off we take. Jesus wept I wish people would read posts before linking & commenting

deco nate · 13-08-2018 12:09AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Self employed do qualify for means tested welfare but not full dole

Limited, but that poster I quoted is talking bs. Self employed do not have the full gamut of services as a normal Joe soap in employment.

PlaneSpeeking · 13-08-2018 12:10AM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I hope those still posting are either retired or on the scratch or on a day off tomorrow.

I'm one of them. Guess which one lol.

Nah this one is up later than she should be finishing off the box set of Succession!

Alarm in 4 hours!

blackwhite · 13-08-2018 12:11AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

And yet he quoted me talking about my wife. It's not clear at all to me. There was no mention about cash in the post. We were talking about how few days off we take. Jesus wept I wish people would read posts before linking & commenting

It’s a pity you don’t apply the last sentence to your own posting - instead of making false claims to paint Ms Cash in a positive light, and accusing posters of fabricating things when the proof has been posted on this thread multiple times.

You choosing to ignore stuff that doesn’t suit your agenda doesn’t mean that the proof suddenly disappears

Spanish Eyes · 13-08-2018 12:14AM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Nah this one is up later than she should be finishing off the box set of Succession!

Alarm in 4 hours!

Jayzis I'd need the eye drops to make the whites a bit less cloudy after that!

Fair dues.

One eyed Jack · 13-08-2018 12:14AM

deco nate wrote: »

Limited, but that poster I quoted is talking bs. Self employed do not have the full gamut of services as a normal Joe soap in employment.

It depends upon the circumstances in each and every individual case as to what they are, or indeed are not, entitled to. There’s a bit more in the link I posted with some good explanations of what a person who is self-employed may or may not qualify for, depending upon their individual circumstances.

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 12:15AM

deco nate wrote:

Limited, but that poster I quoted is talking bs. Self employed do not have the full gamut of services as a normal Joe soap in employment.

I don't think he said that they do.

A paye pays stamps. Well it used to be stamps. They pay prsi & this is what your dole is based on. You get the dole for a year or so and then you will be means tested.

Self employed do not pay full prsi so they don't qualify for the dole. They go straight for the means tested payment.

After the prsi runs out after the year the paye & the self employed will be on the same benefits and entitled to exactly the same things

deco nate · 13-08-2018 12:16AM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Nah this one is up later than she should be finishing off the box set of Succession!

Alarm in 4 hours!

Week off for me, if only I had a grand to waste.
Instead I shall be drinking cans (pub, I wish) and watching Netflix and YouTube and the best part.
Taking my dog for long walks during the day.

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 12:23AM

blackwhite wrote:

Itâ€™s a pity you donâ€™t apply the last sentence to your own posting - instead of making false claims to paint Ms Cash in a positive light, and accusing posters of fabricating things when the proof has been posted on this thread multiple times.

I havenâ€™t made any false claims about her. I'm trying to clear up the false claims made about her. I have asked several times if anyone can post a link to the claim of 30 convictions & so far no one has. I have asked for links to the claim that she was part of the traveller criminal gang terrorising people. Again no link. All I can find is the link where the Garda says she didn't steal anything and all she was found guilty of was handing stole goods. She then got the probation act. Maybe you can post these links.

Spanish Eyes · 13-08-2018 12:25AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I haven’t made any false claims about her. I'm trying to clear up the false claims made about her. I have asked several times if anyone can post a link to the claim of 30 convictions & so far no one has. I have asked for links to the claim that she was part of the traveller criminal gang terrorising people. Again no link. All I can find is the link where the Garda says she didn't steal anything and all she was found guilty of was handing stole goods. She then got the probation act. Maybe you can post these links.

Sorry now, but no one is going to give kudos to Travellers anymore now.

You sound a bit upset, I think you might need to calm down and post again tomorrow.

deco nate · 13-08-2018 12:26AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I havenâ€™t made any false claims about her. I'm trying to clear up the false claims made about her. I have asked several times if anyone can post a link to the claim of 30 convictions & so far no one has. I have asked for links to the claim that she was part of the traveller criminal gang terrorising people. Again no link. All I can find is the link where the Garda says she didn't steal anything and all she was found guilty of was handing stole goods. She then got the probation act. Maybe you can post these links.

If you had read about the enniscorthy case. Then you would have seen about the previous convictions. As you were told on here before, why should someone else do the work for you?
You were told before, and you are still going on about it, ffs!

blackwhite · 13-08-2018 12:30AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I haven’t made any false claims about her. I'm trying to clear up the false claims made about her. I have asked several times if anyone can post a link to the claim of 30 convictions & so far no one has. I have asked for links to the claim that she was part of the traveller criminal gang terrorising people. Again no link. All I can find is the link where the Garda says she didn't steal anything and all she was found guilty of was handing stole goods. She then got the probation act. Maybe you can post these links.

You’ve falsely and repeated claimed she has no criminal record. That’s a lie, and has been proven to be a lie countless time on the thread. You choosing to ignore the proof doesn’t make it any less of a lie.

You’ve also tried to present your own guesses about the probation act as fact - and when proven to be lying yet again you don’t have the decency to apologies to any posters that you accused of “fabricating” that she had a criminal record.

In the same report on the court case you refer to above, the Garda states she has multiple prior convictions for Road Traffic Offences. It’s the same story that’s been linked dozens of times - but you seem very selective in only noticing the parts you can twist into Ms Cash’s favour.

https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/enniscorthy-guardian/20171212/281779924469721

deco nate · 13-08-2018 12:30AM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Clearly you have no intention of stopping the BS. For a start we have no possible way of knowing how much an individual is entitled to claim in benefits or assistance from the State as each case will depend on each individuals circumstances.

Secondly, working Joe and what they may or may not earn before or after tax is entirely irrelevant, it’s just a way to bump up the imaginary figures you’re already speculating about.

If you want to cut out the BS, by all means let’s do just that. I’m all for it.

Imaginary figures, nope.
Look it up. You are posting bull****.

Only one poster posting bs and that is you

Sleeper12 · 13-08-2018 12:33AM

deco nate wrote:

If you had read about the enniscorthy case. Then you would have seen about the previous convictions. As you were told on here before, why should someone else do the work for you? You were told before, and you are still going on about it, ffs!

Oh I did read that case. The article I read do not mention previous convictions at all. I can't find anything to do with 30 conviction or running with a traveller gang. I'm sure different papers reported the case differently but all I can find is the handling stolen goods and the probation act

deco nate · 13-08-2018 12:33AM

blackwhite wrote: »

You’ve falsely and repeated claimed she has no criminal record. That’s a lie, and has been proven to be a lie countless time on the thread. You choosing to ignore the proof doesn’t make it any less of a lie.

You’ve also tried to present your own guesses about the probation act as fact - and when proven to be lying yet again you don’t have the decency to apologies to any posters that you accused of “fabricating” that she had a criminal record.

In the same report on the court case you refer to above, the Garda states she has multiple prior convictions for Road Traffic Offences. It’s the same story that’s been linked dozens of times - but you seem very selective in only noticing the parts you can twist into Ms Cash’s favour.

https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/enniscorthy-guardian/20171212/281779924469721

Sad isn't it, but it's this chap that started this thread

freshpopcorn · 13-08-2018 12:39AM

Has anybody else heard of this happening?
I know in my area the local priest gets calls from people look for money to feed their families/etc but they often arrive up in a new enough Avensis !

mickdw · 13-08-2018 12:39AM

dav3 wrote: »

Instead of people constantly whining in this thread about how much tax they have to pay and how difficult their life was, and still is, why don't you earn more money?

No matter how much tax you think you pay, you're nothing special. Your superiors and betters who pay considerably more tax see you as worthless. How much tax do the wingers pay in taxes anyway? It's probably only in the thousands every year, it would barely cover the cost of a street lamp on your road.

I think everyone is fed up with the non-stop moaning from the "squeezed middle". Always looking for a handout or a tax break from the government when it comes to budget time. What kind of example are you setting for your children with your continual sob stories?

I love nothing more than comparing how much tax I pay over a homeless or unemployed person (we all do), it gives me an immense feeling of superiority over them. However, there comes a time when you have to stop the whining, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, and go out there and work harder to better yourself.

Until you're paying millions in tax every year, you're barely contributing anything to this country.

except the people who pay millions are so few and far between that in fact they contribute a negligible amount overall and it's the squeezed average salaried paye worker who has to be hit harder when state money is squandered.

blackwhite · 13-08-2018 12:40AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Oh I did read that case. The article I read do not mention previous convictions at all. I can't find anything to do with 30 conviction or running with a traveller gang. I'm sure different papers reported the case differently but all I can find is the handling stolen goods and the probation act

Those selective reading glasses must be very expensive :rolleyes:

It’s a long time since I’ve seen such bad-faith posting style on here - and that’s saying something.

Are you still trying to perpetuate the lie that she doesn’t have a criminal record?

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