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Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Can anyone refer to even ONE outlet in the media, TV, print, online, radio who questioned any of Ms Cash's story? I can't recall any myself. Such one sided reporting is bizarre. Not one dissenting voice.

    That is just Pravda like manipulation by the media really, and is quite shocking. No voice for anyone other than the homeless industry.

    Anyway, back to basics. Those working and paying for childcare, commuting, taxes and so on do not seem to have any voice at all on MSM here. Does anyone know why that is?

    And to have a net income like Ms. Cash, I would probably need to earn north of 85k. But I would then have to pay for childcare and commuting costs after that also, she won't.

    There is something wrong with all this.

    But tomorrow there will probably be another silly season story, Cash will get her house, her husband will still be in jail, and working taxpayers will still have to pay for her and her ilk.

    Sigh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    And to have a net income like Ms. Cash, I would probably need to earn north of 85k. But I would then have to pay for childcare and commuting costs after that also, she won't.

    There is something wrong with all this.

    But tomorrow there will probably be another silly season story, Cash will get her house, her husband will still be in jail, and working taxpayers will still have to pay for her and her ilk.

    Sigh.

    Remember that currently Mrs. Cash costs the state less than Mr. since it's about €100k a year to jail someone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭touts


    this is the country Connolly and co fought for, dickhead. America would suit you better than me.

    Connolly and co were working men who fought for the working class not the welfare class that the left represent today. They wouldn't have any time for the champagne socialists we have these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    @Spanish Eyes
    Not all the media. Take a listen to Niall Boylan, the only one who is unafraid to call it for what it is. (Apologies of this link has already been posted.)

    https://omny.fm/shows/the-niall-boylan-show/is-the-homeless-crisis-as-bad-as-it-seems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Gatling wrote: »
    Several large groups of cash ,wall,Connors families based in tallaght

    Easy see how there are large groups of them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Turnipman




    But tomorrow there will probably be another silly season story, Cash will get her house, her husband will still be in jail, and working taxpayers will still have to pay for her and her ilk.

    Sigh.


    And Willie O'Dea is insisting that FG's 2019 budget includes an increase of a fiver a week for all welfare payments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,299 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    anewme wrote:
    receiving stolen property even once, is once too many.

    I hear you & agree with you however if it is a one off she has a legal & moral right to be forgotten. If it is a one off

    My point is that some /most of the claims about her seem to be made up here on boards.ie.

    The only conviction I can find is the one she got the probation act for.

    I can't find a link to 30 convictions or previous charges. Doesn't mean that it doesn't exist I just can't find anything close to it.

    There is absolutely nothing about her being in a traveller gang terrorising people. The only place that you will find this statement is here on boards.ie. No one dug it up online.

    I agree that it is nuts that she is paid over 50k per year but I think her case is bad enough without people making stuff up about her. That would be called a witch hunt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,085 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Can anyone refer to even ONE outlet in the media, TV, print, online, radio who questioned any of Ms Cash's story? I can't recall any myself. Such one sided reporting is bizarre. Not one dissenting voice.

    That is just Pravda like manipulation by the media really, and is quite shocking. No voice for anyone other than the homeless industry.

    Anyway, back to basics. Those working and paying for childcare, commuting, taxes and so on do not seem to have any voice at all on MSM here. Does anyone know why that is?

    And to have a net income like Ms. Cash, I would probably need to earn north of 85k. But I would then have to pay for childcare and commuting costs after that also, she won't.

    There is something wrong with all this.

    But tomorrow there will probably be another silly season story, Cash will get her house, her husband will still be in jail, and working taxpayers will still have to pay for her and her ilk.

    Sigh.

    Nial boylan. 4fm. He asked all the question that are being asked here pretty much. I only came across him as I was sick listening to today fm and news talk talking pure ****e about this. Fcuking gulible gob****es the lot of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,085 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    You are a very aggressive poster Tom.
    It's nice to be nice. Just saying

    I’m not really. If I’ve come across as that I apologize. The comment I quoted mentioned something about hard working people “pissing” off to America. That’s why I said that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Thanks for the Niall Boylan link.

    Will listen back in a bit.

    Sadly his audience is very small compared with RTE/Newstalk/TodayFM/RTE tv/TV3/Indo/Irish Times/Journal etc..

    But fair dues to him. No one complained against his stance (I still have to listen to it!), so why all the other media outlets were against properly researched reporting is beyond me now. It is quite sinister, to me anyway.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Cash will get her house

    And several thousand to fit it out with furniture etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭22michael44


    tom1ie wrote: »
    I’m not really. If I’ve come across as that I apologize. The comment I quoted mentioned something about hard working people “pissing” off to America. That’s why I said that.

    it didn't say piss off, that was your flourish. as for the crack thing, that was clearly a joke which you originally responded to in good spirit. i don't really mind anyway, there's already loads of aggression in this thread, i find it amusing when it's directed at me, not so amusing when it's directed at a group of 'lesser' people.


  • Posts: 4,214 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can anyone refer to even ONE outlet in the media, TV, print, online, radio who questioned any of Ms Cash's story? I can't recall any myself. Such one sided reporting is bizarre. Not one dissenting voice.

    That is just Pravda like manipulation by the media really, and is quite shocking. No voice for anyone other than the homeless industry.


    The questioning tends to be found in comments sections like here and on The Journal. The usual group of self-righteous left wing individuals are creating a climate of fear on Facebook and Twitter if anyone dares to even mildly argue against their blind devotion. The contempt that many on the left have for ordinary working people was always there but it's really coming to the surface now. Rants against "suits", "big business", "corporate drones", "9 to 5 penpushers", "boring corporate lackeys" etc. And if you're a middle class professional in an uncreative career - then you're really the lowest of the low.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I hear you & agree with you however if it is a one off she has a legal & moral right to be forgotten. If it is a one off

    My point is that some /most of the claims about her seem to be made up here on boards.ie.

    The only conviction I can find is the one she got the probation act for.

    I can't find a link to 30 convictions or previous charges. Doesn't mean that it doesn't exist I just can't find anything close to it.

    There is absolutely nothing about her being in a traveller gang terrorising people. The only place that you will find this statement is here on boards.ie. No one dug it up online.

    I agree that it is nuts that she is paid over 50k per year but I think her case is bad enough without people making stuff up about her. That would be called a witch hunt


    I don't believe it is a one off personally.

    I know enough to know I don't support this person.

    It's not just the thieving, it's the crates of beer and vodka, thousands spent on Communion outfits, using children as cash cows, 50k a year fot nothing, this person is not genuine and he doing a disservice to the real homeless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,531 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    touts wrote: »
    There is no need for a single Irish adult to be unemployed.

    unfortunately there are reasons. you may not like their existence but they are reasons. if there were no reasons then we would have an actual full employment rate in every country in the world, all throughout history.
    also, there is one huge reason coming which will change the course of history. automation. god help us when it does come. we won't be truely prepared for it i don't think.
    touts wrote: »
    We have hundreds of thousands of hard working east Europeans who have come here and contribute greatly to this country doing jobs some lazy Irish people don't want or consider themselves above.

    sure, but at least those jobs are getting done by people who want to do them. as far as i'm concerned that's a better outcome. the tiny amount of people we are talking about in this thread wouldn't be any good to any employer.
    touts wrote: »
    When the government have the fanfare and balloons announcement that we officially hit the statistical "full employment" they should immediately half unemployment benefits to anyone on the dole for more than 3 months without a medical condition. That would quickly sort out this one and her type

    unfortunately it wouldn't as there is no work for them even if they were willing to do it which is unlikely, and no employer would go near them. this small amount aren't wanted in the work-place and they don't want to be there.
    touts wrote: »
    Strike one or two doctors off the medical register for fraud and that problem will be solved.

    unfortunately it likely won't. fraud has to be proved in each individual case, and the vast majority of doctors signing such forms i would imagine, are simply doing their job, within the rules as set out. if they aren't, and one has evidence of such, then they must report it to the authorities, so that an investigation can take place.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    The facebook page is showing stuff again, nothing on the scale that it did previously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    The questioning tends to be found in comments sections like here and on The Journal. The usual group of self-righteous left wing individuals are creating a climate of fear on Facebook and Twitter if anyone dares to even mildly argue against their blind devotion. The contempt that many on the left have for ordinary working people was always there but it's really coming to the surface now. Rants against "suits", "big business", "corporate drones", "9 to 5 penpushers", "boring corporate lackeys" etc. And if you're a middle class professional in an uncreative career - then you're really the lowest of the low.

    Comments are often disabled when the working/taxpayer's side comes to light though. Still no voice for the working and contributing in society!

    As I said earlier, it is a very sinister development in a democracy IMV anyway.

    Those who can be influenced are not all on Boards either!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well said- same poster has said I was on crack and now should go to the US.

    My crime? Doing a 60 odd hour week and commuting 800km a week for the privilege.

    Shouldn't you be as critical of a system that forces you to do this that also appears to be going soft on this person according to many? But here you are doing this week in week out (along with many others) without any sign of protest? You'll be well f**ked if motor tax is adjusted to some sort of per km travelled type of charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭22michael44


    unfortunately there are reasons. you may not like their existence but they are reasons. if there were no reasons then we would have an actual full employment rate in every country in the world, all throughout history.
    also, there is one huge reason coming which will change the course of history. automation. god help us when it does come. we won't be truely prepared for it i don't think.



    sure, but at least those jobs are getting done by people who want to do them. as far as i'm concerned that's a better outcome. the tiny amount of people we are talking about in this thread wouldn't be any good to any employer.



    unfortunately it wouldn't as there is no work for them even if they were willing to do it which is unlikely, and no employer would go near them. this small amount aren't wanted in the work-place and they don't want to be there.



    unfortunately it likely won't. fraud has to be proved in each individual case, and the vast majority of doctors signing such forms i would imagine, are simply doing their job, within the rules as set out. if they aren't, and one has evidence of such, then they must report it to the authorities, so that an investigation can take place.

    more than that, i seriously doubt any doctor is intentionally signing off on a medical cert that they know to be untrue. why exactly would they do that? it's weekly paperwork at the very least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Would love it if someone had pictures etc of extravagant spending etc.. and could add on here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    Turnipman wrote: »
    And Willie O'Dea is insisting that FG's 2019 budget includes an increase of a fiver a week for all welfare payments.

    Why should someone on Disability Allowance or a genuine Jobseeker not get an increase because of that leech?

    Ironically it was his party that savagely cut disability allowance by €16pw and cut jobseekers for the under 25.

    That's another thing too encouraging girls to have children. Full rate welfare payments.

    I have a friend who worked in a traveller training centre FÁS/VEC and all the girls approaching 18 got pregnant and quit the courses because they'll only be paid €100 training allowance vs €188 at the time.

    The fathers if they stick with them do not get full rate. They do if they come out of prison though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Would love it if someone had pictures etc of extravagant spending etc.. and could add on here.

    Screenshots were doing the rounds of expensive communions, crystal, getting p1ssed and even a mention somewhere of a 171 Mercedes supposedly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Melendez


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Well said- same poster has said I was on crack and now should go to the US.

    My crime? Doing a 60 odd hour week and commuting 800km a week for the privilege.

    Shouldn't you be as critical of a system that forces you to do this that also appears to be going soft on this person according to many? But here you are doing this week in week out (along with many others) without any sign of protest? You'll be well f**ked if motor tax is adjusted to some sort of per km travelled type of charge.

    Bit difficult to find time to protest, you know with the work and commuting and being too knackered to even vacuum when I get home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Would love it if someone had pictures etc of extravagant spending etc.. and could add on here.

    She took down most if them.

    The beer and vodka (last week) and Communion are in this article.

    It does not read well for her.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.thesun.ie/news/2968932/homeless-mum-garda-station-blasts-online-abuse/amp/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭zeebre12


    SirChenjin wrote: »
    Exactly what I thought when I read that article.

    I think this debacle has touched a very raw nerve with many hard working people in this country.

    No it hasn't. The media is protraying her as the innocent homeless woman with the kids having to sleep in the Garda station. The general working public have no idea of the ins and outs of it. That's the sad thing about it. Tis a great little country.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Melendez wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    It is responsible reporting.

    They are addressing the issue, that being that there are severe deficits in the system for finding shelter for homeless people. This is an undeniable fact. Finding fault with the person who raised the issue and turning it into a bullying campaign, bringing National attention to the flaws in character and lifestyle of someone who has neither the training or experience to defend herself or deal with it properly, I find to be reprehensible. It is the sort of behaviour that can lead to long term anxiety or even suicidal thoughts.

    Yes, she brought it on herself, but obviously without any idea of how things would proceed.

    She wasn't aware how much people love it when they find someone they see as worse human beings than themselves.[/quote]

    That is possibly the most naive post I've read in some considerable time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,085 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Melendez wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.


    Are you serious? So your saying nial boylan is in the wrong for finding out the truth and informing the public?
    I must be picking you up wrong. Apologies if I am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,580 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I agree that it is nuts that she is paid over 50k per year but I think her case is bad enough without people making stuff up about her. That would be called a witch hunt


    Indeed it would Sleeper, indeed it would... doesn’t appear to have stopped you though? :pac:

    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    It's scammers like her get all homeless a bad name. What usually happens is she becomes the poster child for the cause. Then in coming days or weeks it turns out that she turned down two houses because they weren't next door to her mother. You'll find that her Facebook account dissappears because she might have photos of her family holiday in Disneyland.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Melendez


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